Linked by Adam S on Wed 30th Mar 2005 00:46 UTC
Xfce The code-named Thunar project, which aims to develop a new file manager for Xfce 4, has had a bunch of discussion on the mailing list about a possible new name. Xfce developers decided to share some of their favorites with OSNews readers and solicit some feedback.
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names...
by Jon on Wed 30th Mar 2005 00:52 UTC

"Pathfinder" it should not be because there is already another one with that name in the Mac platform.
"Vagabond" is the name of a WAP browser.
"Nomad" might have problems with Creative.

Missing Option....
by FH on Wed 30th Mar 2005 00:56 UTC

Karl. Because I like the name.

Better options...
by Nate on Wed 30th Mar 2005 00:58 UTC

Names I think would work are more like TrapperKeeper, xffm and Watcher.

Name Game
by MrX on Wed 30th Mar 2005 01:05 UTC

Bobby Fisher... get it?? searching for!

xffm come one
by Johnathan Bailes on Wed 30th Mar 2005 01:15 UTC

All of the XFCE stuff has simple straight forward names. Start breaking that tradition and the flood gates to nonsense names are going to be open.

RE: xffm come one
by Adam Scheinberg on Wed 30th Mar 2005 01:17 UTC

Xffm is still going to be in XFCE 4.4. This is a NEW, different, secondary FM, aiming to be much simpler and basic.

XF-Filer
by Anonymous on Wed 30th Mar 2005 01:23 UTC

XF-Filer, like ROX-Filer. All these names suggest that XFCE lacks recognizable identity. They should change the name of the whole project into XFDE (XF Desktop Environment) and stick to the XF prefix.

Clerk
by Norva on Wed 30th Mar 2005 01:26 UTC

I chose "Clerk", although I think "File Clerk" would be better. With a new file manager, XFCE will be truly awesome.

How about...
by Anonymous on Wed 30th Mar 2005 01:28 UTC

XINN

XINN Is Not Nautilus

where X := {A..Z} - {G,K}

:)

Re: Name
by Piers on Wed 30th Mar 2005 01:29 UTC

How abour Zen

Thunar? Hmmm... I thought that was it's name?
by SystemX on Wed 30th Mar 2005 01:31 UTC

This is just stupid! Benny, Thunar works just fine and fits it perfectly... keep it! ;)

XF-iles or XFiles or XF-iler or XFiler
by Bannor99 on Wed 30th Mar 2005 01:34 UTC

I know that someone already suggested XF-Filer but I feel that
my suggestions are more pronounceable.

Too many options
by Charlie on Wed 30th Mar 2005 01:35 UTC

To have a decent poll you really need to minimize the number of options you present. There is just far too many to choose from.

I'm with Bannor99, 'XFiler' sounds decent.

v FxcK???
by hugo on Wed 30th Mar 2005 01:40 UTC
file manager - xfce file manager
by Anonymous on Wed 30th Mar 2005 01:44 UTC

I voted "suck" cause there was no "xfce file manager" option, and all others, well suck

Name
by MechR on Wed 30th Mar 2005 02:02 UTC

I tried suggesting "File Forager" or simply "Forager" on the mailing list, but not being a subscriber, it doesn't look like the mail got through ;) I thought it'd be good to use the rodent imagery ;) Think a fieldmouse gathering grain.

Other than that, I like the XINN idea ;)

They should...
by Anonymous on Wed 30th Mar 2005 02:03 UTC

Name it Trufflehunter. The Narnia movies are coming out in a bit, and they'll get free publicity that way! Plus it makes sense for an organizer/finder app.

Re: How about...
by Devon on Wed 30th Mar 2005 02:04 UTC

"XINN Is Not Nautilus

where X := {A..Z} - {G,K}"


I like it!

Im partial to FINN myself. ;)

XFiler
by mattk on Wed 30th Mar 2005 02:16 UTC

My vote for XFiler. Most SciFi coolness.

Handler or Scout
by greg on Wed 30th Mar 2005 03:03 UTC

I think they're the best by far, Handler just has a ring to it, I can't explain..

DIGGER
by Rastalabasta on Wed 30th Mar 2005 03:06 UTC

"Digger" has a slightly obscene ring to it. I like it. Bonus: imagine the possibilities when thinking of mascots!!!

path finder
by younker on Wed 30th Mar 2005 03:16 UTC

pathfinder is good. I like it

How about....
by wakeupneo on Wed 30th Mar 2005 03:17 UTC

..XeFraM

Pronounced "Zefram". Wait, my Trek node is showing... ;)

DIGGLER
by Rastalabasta on Wed 30th Mar 2005 03:26 UTC

Hmmm... I like it even better. Name it Diggler. Dirk for short.

PathFinder already exists
by Anonymous on Wed 30th Mar 2005 03:55 UTC

PathFinder already exists, it is the file manager made by Jeroen van der Zijp using his FOX toolkit.

xfiles
by Anonymous on Wed 30th Mar 2005 04:00 UTC

They should call it the xfiles.

Honcho
by backdoc on Wed 30th Mar 2005 04:11 UTC

How about "Honcho", as in "Head Honcho"?

xfiles yes!
by CBrachyrhynchos on Wed 30th Mar 2005 04:14 UTC

Ohh, I'm liking xfiles.

On the other hand, can I express my strong dislike for program names that offer very little clue as to their function?

RE: xfiles
by d.c. on Wed 30th Mar 2005 04:16 UTC

xfiles is good

..or...
by wakeupneo on Wed 30th Mar 2005 04:17 UTC

..Roamer or Scout..

OK..I'll stop now.

Uggh
by GeekGod on Wed 30th Mar 2005 04:20 UTC

I first thought "digger is cool". But somehow voted for "File Digger" and now that I see its the most popular I feel that I've waisted my vote. Oh Well. XFce is a great project and have really enjoyed using it on FreeSBIE.

-GeekGod

xflorer
by dogma on Wed 30th Mar 2005 04:37 UTC

a tribute to explorer.exe ;)

FileXpress
by Jaramin on Wed 30th Mar 2005 05:14 UTC

As in, it gets you fast from one point to the next, and it makes your files express themselves. Well, I had to try ;)

XFCE File Manager name
by Phil on Wed 30th Mar 2005 05:17 UTC

XFiles is the best so far, I also thought maybe XFSee.

Thunar and xfiles
by Anonymous on Wed 30th Mar 2005 05:22 UTC

I think Thunar is still the best option. Besides overall coolness, it has the advantage of high relevancy when googling for the thing. On the other thing, xfiles is a very good pun...

Thunar
by Anonymous on Wed 30th Mar 2005 05:32 UTC

Anything that sounds like it should be followed by "the Barbarian" is an awesome name!

why not just fix/fork nautilus?
by CrapFilledTeaCup on Wed 30th Mar 2005 06:19 UTC

but even a more salient question - do people even use file managers? my feeling is that most unix people do 99% of their "file management" in a terminal.

stick with simple names
by admiral bighat on Wed 30th Mar 2005 06:24 UTC

like xffm2 or mffx

Thunar all the way
by Buck on Wed 30th Mar 2005 07:18 UTC

It's an original name and it sounds quite good. The abovementioned high relevancy when searching with Google is indeed a great asset. Imagine searching for "File Manager"... time wasted.

XFrig
by ed on Wed 30th Mar 2005 08:34 UTC

As in "where the frig did they put that file?" Kind of a cross between digger and xfile. Since most computer nuts love to use initials , you could see 4F (Friggin Fast File Finder)or Freaky Fast File Finder. Better than Beagel. How about XLab, or PoodleX ? Yuk, gotta cut back on the coffee!

Thunar or XFiles
by KDE on Wed 30th Mar 2005 08:44 UTC

I voted for Thunar but i also like XFiles ALOT ... it just fits in with the naming of all the other XFCE stuff.

How about Bob?
by Anonymous on Wed 30th Mar 2005 08:58 UTC

Well, it's a better name than most of those in the poll ;)

I did vote for Thunar however, but XFiles is also a cool name.

And I do want a decent filemanager as I only do about 50% of my filemanagement in a terminal, I'm hoping Thunar will better suit me than ROX once it's finished.

jaja
by hmmh on Wed 30th Mar 2005 09:03 UTC

Xfiles is good

hmm
by Inacio on Wed 30th Mar 2005 09:16 UTC

Thunar File Manager

anyway IMHO they all suck ;)

Why?
by rehdon on Wed 30th Mar 2005 09:36 UTC

Why a new file manager? What's wrong with ROX filer?

rehdon

File manager
by Giorgos on Wed 30th Mar 2005 10:12 UTC

From an HCI point of view, only something like File Manager of XFCE File Manager seem reasonable

@Giorgos
by rehdon on Wed 30th Mar 2005 10:46 UTC

Can you be a little more specific? Doing a "modern version" of xffm doesn't make much sense to me (at least if it won't offer the possibility to split a window, like Konqueror does).

rehdon

Memorable Name
by marytee on Wed 30th Mar 2005 11:11 UTC

The mascot is a "mouse". So, the mouse that roared...

ROAR: Rapid Omnipresent Access and Retrieval :-)


marytee

Pathfinder or XF-something
by cyclop on Wed 30th Mar 2005 11:15 UTC

Thunar is simply horrible. It seems the name of a barbarian, or of some oozing alien race from Pluto. It sucks.

I voted for Pathfinder because it is both straightforward and lightly humorous. Someone stated this name can be already in use. If this is the case, well, stick with something like xffm or xfiles or anything simple, straightforward that begins with XF.

Honestly
by xedx on Wed 30th Mar 2005 11:51 UTC

all of the proposed names suck

XF-seeker
by Joe on Wed 30th Mar 2005 11:59 UTC

Wouldn't calling it X-files present a legal problem?
I prefer XF-seeker or XF-ceeker.

Remember
by Jefferson "ReZ" Ietto Novo on Wed 30th Mar 2005 12:19 UTC

...and remeber that Walter should not be used too because it was used for Haiku before... ;]

...But seriously... I didn't get too excited about all this names... some of they are not so bad... but we're selecting a name to this project with some care, what about take a look in these options and their legal aplications... (of course a /true/ original name should be better, but at least lets see if there's no legal problems with the name before actually using it!)

I agree with the coward on the front page
by Mattchewie on Wed 30th Mar 2005 12:30 UTC

XF-Filer sounds good...not so hot on Xfiler cause I think that would cause confusion with <new> people thinking it has to do with "X" itself.


and his suggestion for xfce to be xfde is good to. Making sense is not a bad thing as OSS seems to get outhand with naming of projects and what not. I mean, I as a geek am cool with it but not everyone is a scifi geek or a geek in general

Keep XF
by clausi on Wed 30th Mar 2005 12:30 UTC

Whatever name will be choosen, I suggest to keep the XF prefix. Doesn't really matter if that's XF Filer, XF Digger, or XF Finder. Althought the other names may sound a little bit strange with an XF prefix.

Cabinet!
by trygvebw on Wed 30th Mar 2005 12:32 UTC

Voted for Cabinet. Think it's the most recogniseable and nice name of them.

RE: why not just fix/fork nautilus?
by Mike on Wed 30th Mar 2005 13:21 UTC

"...most unix people do 99% of their "file management" in a terminal."

Which is why we need a new file manager - one that enables users to do all their file managing, including sylinks (relative and absolute), pattern matching, compound commands and such; and wich does so in such a way that it is /less/ work than the command line. This doesn't yet exist (to my knowledge) and I doubt it ever will.

If this is such a program, call it "File Manager" because you won't need anything else.

What about XFLeader ?
by Marauder1 on Wed 30th Mar 2005 13:34 UTC

X for Linux
F for file
and Leader

Because a file leader is , like the dictionnairy says ...

File leader, the soldier at the front of any file, who
covers and leads those in rear of him.

so its not only managing the file but its protecting and
showing them to the users.

Seeya !!!

Cabinet
by Jasenko on Wed 30th Mar 2005 14:02 UTC

I voted Cabinet, it is something I could relate when I need to look for files. If I use XFCE for the first time and see the app named Cabinet I would definitely think it's the file manager.
In that case you could just name them File Manager or similar, but I think that's too generic and sounds lazy in a way.
Look what we have now:
Finder (Mac) - Sounds right, "need a file, find it!"
Explorer (Windows) - Sounds right, maybe just a bit too wide, more appropriate for Internet browsing
Nautilus (Gnome) - Sounds OK, for a scuba diver maybe, nothing to do with coumputers.
Konqueror (KDE) - While the app is OK, you have no idea what's all about until you click on it.
Cabinet (XFCE) - Probably the best and most appropriate name for a file manager I have ever heard

Cheers guys, and think of us, the endusers, when you choose the name

XFiler
by Tony on Wed 30th Mar 2005 14:03 UTC

would have gotten my vote if it was in the poll (there were so many choices, maybe it was in the poll and I missed it?).

Dont like Cabinet ...

In french it is where you go for your needs !!!

Yerk !!!

@ jasenko
by Geert Hendrickx on Wed 30th Mar 2005 14:17 UTC

Explorer (Windows) - Sounds right, maybe just a bit too wide, more appropriate for Internet browsing
Konqueror (KDE) - While the app is OK, you have no idea what's all about until you click on it.


[KC]onquering is just one step further than Exploring. Hence the name, I think. :-)

Easy to type...
by Mark Watson on Wed 30th Mar 2005 14:25 UTC

I like "clerk", but the one that gets chosen should be easy to type. please.

XFiler
by mazinga on Wed 30th Mar 2005 14:34 UTC

XFiler gets my vote too ;)

XFDigger
by whodang on Wed 30th Mar 2005 14:44 UTC

I like XFDigger, it just sounds right. It's not to plain but still keeps the general XFCE naming scheme. Plus, Digger some what implies a file-manager.

@jasenko
by drynwhyl on Wed 30th Mar 2005 14:53 UTC

Konqueror (KDE) - While the app is OK, you have no idea what's all about until you click on it.

So now, you not even require to build and design and name software environments for people who arent highly proficient at computers, like it was trendy for a time when HIGshit was introduced, but to accomodate them to people who actually _never_ used a computer, or a special desktop environment?

Call me arrogant, but I dont think that anybody who cannot remember the name or the icon of the app he/she will use the most on his computer for the years to come, actually has the brains to make anything useful of a computer besides playing solitaire, if he/she even manages to find out and remember what the name solitaire stands for and how to play it.

Name
by jh on Wed 30th Mar 2005 15:02 UTC

How about mighty mouse?

how about
by duke simms on Wed 30th Mar 2005 15:15 UTC

Tiffany, Heather, Cody, Dylan, Dermott, Jordan, Taylor, Brittany, Wesley, Rumer, Scout, Cassidy, Zoe, Chloe, Max, Hunter, Kendal, Katlin, Noah, Sasha, Morgan, Kira, Ian, Lauren, Q-bert, Phil

v The best name
by no one on Wed 30th Mar 2005 15:45 UTC
RE: how about
by Anonymous on Wed 30th Mar 2005 15:46 UTC

Would "Noah" support ARK compression, and keep automatic backups so that there are two of each file?

XFiles
by Apophis on Wed 30th Mar 2005 15:48 UTC

As many have said so-far, had XFiles been an option, I'd have chosen that.

How about ...
by Beryllium on Wed 30th Mar 2005 16:42 UTC

"Serenity".

Serenity?!!
by Rastalabasta on Wed 30th Mar 2005 16:48 UTC

Yes, and it will have flowers and pink easter bunnies! I feel pretty!!! Oh so pretty!!!

This should be too hard people.
by Aussiefax on Wed 30th Mar 2005 16:49 UTC

Just use "XFile"

Drop the "r" off "Xfiler" and say to heck with that old Fox TV show.

"XFile" would be perfect. Simple, short and carries the "XF" of XFCE in it.

so there.

Re: stick with simple names
by Rastalabasta on Wed 30th Mar 2005 16:57 UTC

Admiral, I assume you're joking. "xffm2 or mffx"? How are those simple? Simple to type in? I'd rather have simple to remember. They just don't roll off the tongue. "Ex eff eff emm too"... the whole UNIX unpronounceable acronym cliche has got to stop (dear Lord please make it stop). It should be easy to remember and easier to pronounce.

The XFce guys *should* be thinking of a better name for XFce. It isn't very memorable. Change it to "X-Force" or something. Seriously... why all of these projects have such forgettable names is beyond me. They can name them whatever they want, but if they want potential new users to remember their project, a better name would help.

There's already a conductor
by Grendal on Wed 30th Mar 2005 17:04 UTC

Just so it's out in the open. The company I work for has a commercial application based on Linux, it's called "Conductor".

It might be best to avoid that name, I can't imagine we'd be too annoyed if Thunar did end up being called that, but it's probably not worth the hassle on either side of the coin.

Skipper
by Søren J on Wed 30th Mar 2005 17:46 UTC

Just want to tell you that skipper means sailor in danish, actual "papay the sailor" is kalled "Skipper Skræk"...
A wird name for a file manager, but great fun

XFfm
by Collin on Wed 30th Mar 2005 18:03 UTC

XFfm sounds good to me. Short, concise, yet descriptive.

Barring that, I vote for calling it Shirley.

Rover is the name
by Bedros on Wed 30th Mar 2005 18:10 UTC

I think Rover is best choice. I don't think it's used any where else (unlike pathfinder) and the name is related to the task. something like Mars Rover. where Rover can help you discover things on your hard drive

RE: XFile
by Annonymous Contributor on Wed 30th Mar 2005 18:37 UTC

I like it, XFile, simple yet affordable. Not too shabby, a bird in the hand... (if you know what i mean) Dashing, Fun, easy to remember, and unlike anything else ( except that old TV show, But who gives a crap.) XFILE RULES!!!!!! Go to MRAF.com. It rules!!!

the best name yet
by evilmegaman on Wed 30th Mar 2005 19:24 UTC

I really like: megaman, you know ;) Like mega manager. That would be cool. or xman. That would be cool too. I like to have man in my name ;)

Sonar
by Roedhatte on Wed 30th Mar 2005 19:36 UTC

explores the depth of your harddrive!!!!

Sonar
by Roedhatte on Wed 30th Mar 2005 19:36 UTC

explores the depth of your harddrive!!!!

My suggestion!
by ww on Wed 30th Mar 2005 22:41 UTC

XFactor!

XFactor!
by ww on Wed 30th Mar 2005 23:02 UTC

Well, I should have said a bit more on my suggestion.

XFactor: It sounds like the file manager to be an essential core component of the Desktop. And the pronunciation is forceful and matches the Desktop's name "XFce". And the name contains the meaning that it's gonna make XFce popular with an unexplainable reason (or more like with an mysterious power).

pathfinder
by Michael Salivar on Wed 30th Mar 2005 23:20 UTC

There's also a pathfinder bundled with the Fox toolkit. Sorry if that's been said 50 times already, I didn't read ;)

Xfiles
by ASUSanator on Thu 31st Mar 2005 01:40 UTC

I say Xfiles is the best by far ;)

too many complicated and unrelated choices
by dan on Thu 31st Mar 2005 03:49 UTC

they should choose an original name (pathfinder and all that crap is out of the question) but some of them are 'oh man' cant even pronounce them ... ...
i chose skipper sounds best of all those options
digger is kinda rough
and xfiles does sound good but then again remindes me of x-files series, again not original

just my opinion

Hmmm.....
by MagicMan on Thu 31st Mar 2005 04:32 UTC

Since XFce has a mouse for the logo, why not name it after the fastest mouse ever? Speedy. Something like XFSpeedy or SpeedyXF perhaps.

XFile or XFiler are also very good.
I didn't like any of the ones in the poll, sorry.

they suck.
by anonymous coward on Thu 31st Mar 2005 06:02 UTC

really.

XF-Filer
by emo on Thu 31st Mar 2005 07:48 UTC

I like XF-Filer or what about XFFM.2

XINN is also pretty cool, but I think you should stick to descriptive names. I'm going to go with Filer.

XFCA...
by alepape on Thu 31st Mar 2005 15:15 UTC

Or any contraction of XFCE Cabinet, like xfcab, would be great.
Xfile(s) sounds good too, and maybe by going the "xfile" road instead of the "xfiles" road, we could prevent some FOX hunting ;)

Yet another name
by Peggy K on Fri 8th Apr 2005 07:25 UTC

What about Mouse-Filer ?
A little long, but no confusion with "official" XFce File Manager and still a reference to the Xfce mouse.