Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 11th Jul 2005 13:32 UTC
Zeta During the trip that BeBug made to yT's headquarters in Mannheim, they also had a talk with CEO Bernd Korz. They discussed marketing, future releases and much more.
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Extremely interesting!
by Ronald Vos on Mon 11th Jul 2005 14:21 UTC
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2005-07-06

There are some extremely interesting tidbits here!

For example the fact that Zeta R1 is outselling BeOS R5 (Though I assume they are talking per time-period, which is reasonable given that YellowTAB benefits from a userbase which waited to buy a new version).

I have no idea what 'Zintro' is though. Anyone?

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RE: Extremely interesting!
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 11th Jul 2005 15:07 UTC in reply to "Extremely interesting!"
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RE[2]: Extremely interesting!
by gmiranda on Mon 11th Jul 2005 15:36 UTC in reply to "RE: Extremely interesting!"
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2005-07-06

It looks pretty interesting, thanks.

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Zintro
by gmiranda on Mon 11th Jul 2005 14:50 UTC
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I guess it's the demo CD

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Zintro
by MYOB on Mon 11th Jul 2005 15:03 UTC
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2005-06-29

Is a computer running Zeta they announced an extremely long time ago, and which kinda vanished after that. It looked a bit like a Buffalo wireless router, from memory - extremely small tower.

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zintro
by transputer_guy on Mon 11th Jul 2005 20:19 UTC
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2005-07-08

That looks like suspiciously like a std miniITX board in a custom case but the backside doesn't look right, and whats the KVM for? Still 690eu seems a bit steep given these boards can be had for <$200 but then small form factor gear is way overpriced in most places. At least if true, the miniITX runs Zeta atleast, never knew that for sure.

on 04/2/22 I must have missed this
http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=6116

and
http://www.nimblev5.com/

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No dvd-drive
by Ronald Vos on Tue 12th Jul 2005 10:30 UTC
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2005-07-06

It seems like a really sweet machine, but it has no cd/dvd drive ;)

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I like the Zintor - it fits my needs
by mario on Tue 12th Jul 2005 16:03 UTC
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2005-07-06

I -always- wanted to have BeOS running on a compact, VIA EPIA-based computer. And I also need a KVM switch. So this little gem is just what I need.

I would add a TV card to it, and perhaps an external DVD burner.

Now, if I could boot and run Zeta/BeOS from solid-state instead of a hard disk, that would be just great. Something like Ferromagnetic RAM should be fast enough and alows for unlimited writes.

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transputer_guy Member since:
2005-07-08

I don't expect to see Ferro DRAM any time soon, it looks like one of those next year things (forever). But I would hope that the USB Flash drives could get faster, much much faster, I think they are only at 2MBytes/s even with USB2 because the demand hasn't been for speed, just size.

On the subject of nice, I also noticed that in the SFF arena there are now Athlon (Geode NX <10W, not the old NS Geode) and Pentium M miniITX boards popping up as well as a SFF IWIll dual Opteron but not exactly in the retail channel yet.

It will be interseting to see if a iMiniMac will run Zeta/BeOS/Haiku too. My biggest issue is getting any SFF machine to drive 2 monitors at >>1600 res.

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mario Member since:
2005-07-06

I don't expect to see Ferro DRAM any time soon, it looks like one of those next year things (forever).

First of all, I wasn't talking about "Ferro DRAM" whatever that is. Ferromagnetic RAM is certainly not dynamic - it doesn't need any refresh by definition. So, perhaps you're talking about a different product.
This is what I have been talking about:
http://www.ramtron.com/doc/Products/overview.asp

I have a 256 Kbit FRAM on my shelf - I have had it for about a year now, and have been using it in some of my designs. My IC belongs to a batch that has a 10E8 rewrite cycles. Ramtron has now upped the number of rewrite cycles to infinite, for the same IC.
For a comparison, Flash RAM whitstands up to 10E5 rewrites at best. Worse yet, the writes are sectorized: you can't write just one bit, you have to rewrite a whole cell/sector (can be several K). Flash RAM is very bad for writes, and hence, I guess, has not found large acceptance for non-embedded OSes.


It will be interseting to see if a iMiniMac will run Zeta/BeOS/Haiku too.


Do you mean the PPC version of these OSes? I don't know if there's a PPC version of Zeta, I suspect there isn't. Yet.

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Ronald Vos Member since:
2005-07-06

MiniMac is too new for BeOS r5 PPC version, and the others haven't been ported yet and probably will not be ported for a long time (nor is Haiku finished at all).

But we can keep on dreaming ;)

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