The Mozilla Foundation has posted the second alpha edition of its next standalone browser, for now code named "Deer Park". This version now includes an integrated update system that would make it possible to patch the browser with small-sized upgrade files, rather than forcing users to download and reinstall a full version, as is now the case. Screenshot.
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Because nobody's said it out loud yet:
It is called "Deer Park" instead of "Firefox" because this is effectively a 1.1 alpha release, and the Mozilla Foundation does not want tens of millions of Firefox newbies to see the name "Firefox" and download it.
Once it goes into beta, it will be rebranded "Firefox". No trademark issues or anything like that. It's just an attempt to keep novices away from a developer release.
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Good to see fastback. CSS popups are showing up now. Will this fix it ?
'Also new to Alpha 2 is a feature dubbed Fastback, which caches previously-visited pages in memory for faster display when clicking the back and forward navigation buttons. Although Fastback has been included in numerous Deer Park builds, this was the first time it's been enabled by default.'
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Just a codename. From Wikipedia's article on Firefox:
According to Ben Goodger, "Deer Park is not Deer Park, Victoria, but just a symbolic name. I was riding LIRR a few weeks ago and saw the name go by and I thought it sounded nice". Therefore, this name probably references Deer Park, New York, a CDP on Long Island.
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you're kidding right?
http://www.keystonemac.com/images/safari-tabs-preferences.jpg
compare that with the deer park prefs. damn near identical.
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From http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/roadmap.html :
After some discourse, we have settled on the following naming structure for our releases going forward:
1. Each major release has a code name (e.g. 1.1 is "Deer Park")
2. The alpha and beta releases are named “[codename] alpha/beta”
3. The final release is named “Firefox [version]”
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The posting filter messed up the quotes, so here it is again:
From http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/roadmap.html :
After some discourse, we have settled on the following naming structure for our releases going forward:
1. Each major release has a code name (e.g. 1.1 is "Deer Park")
2. The alpha and beta releases are named "[codename] alpha/beta"
3. The final release is named "Firefox [version]"
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Well, you can. Just type the phrase and hit enter. Unfortunately, by default you end up with Google's "I'm feeling lucky" result. Go to about:config and filter for "search", and set browser.search.defaultUrl to http://www.google.com/search?lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=
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I guess Firefox being able to use any search engine from the location bar just isn't advanced enough from everyone.
Hint: Right-click the search field of any given search engine, and click Add a Keyword for this Search. :-) To see a list of predefined searches, consult the properties menu of all the bookmarks in the "Quick Searches" bookmark folder.
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Maybe I'm stupid but I don't see why anyone thinks there are trademark issues... this is a beta releas titled Deer Park. If there were any issues, don't you think they would have renamed Firefox by now?
Anyway, glad to see the second beta... I was very excited using Deer Park Beta 1, this should be great too. Anything to get closer to a stable 1.1 release 
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Maybe I'm stupid but I don't see why anyone thinks there are trademark issues...
First link I could find regarding the issue:
http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0,2000061733,39197321,00.htm
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According to this, http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/josh/archives/2005/07/screenshot_of_... the ground work for native Cocoa widgets (in the content area too) are there, but won't show up until post 1.1 builds(so 1.5 might be a good bet), although he says that he'll release and "unoffical" build before 1.1.
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The Winbloze version is working pretty well so far - hopefully the Linux version is up to par too (I'm switching to Kubuntu soon, hehe). Aside from a few extensions not working *hint* d-e-v-e-l-o-p-e-r-s *hint*, Deer Park Alpha 2 feels faster than v.1.0.5 and is actually pretty stable for an Alpha release. Firefox is getting better and better every day and I can't wait for v1.1 to be released. :-)
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orestes...do you use Adobe's Acrobat 7? If so, could you put the sym link or copy the nppdf.so file to your plugins directory and see if a .pdf document will show? On 1.0.5 it works perfectly, but on Alpha 2 for me, it "starts" but the stops with a blank page.....
Other than that...this thing is fantastic!
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Before trying this alpha i was the opera user because firefox feels slow at rendering and back/forward operations, and overall ui was kinda sluggish. Now Im using deer park as my main browser because its pretty fast. And only 1 crash during two days of hardcore browsing, not so bad for testing build.
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Indeed. It's nice to see Firefox pick up Opera's render cache feature (for quick back/forward) and a bit of tab management.
Wiould you be saying the same if IE stole one of Firefox's features? Right.
Back on the subject, I use Deer Park now to see how it goes. One thing that bothers me is the settings menu. Nicely done and all, but there are so many settings. Firefox was known to be simple, non-bloated (compared to Mozilla) but I think they're headed towards the same road. And there's this sanitize options. Ridicules and confusing name for something that took 2 seconds of work before.
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One thing that bothers me is the settings menu. Nicely done and all, but there are so many settings. Firefox was known to be simple, non-bloated (compared to Mozilla) but I think they're headed towards the same road.
You do realise that the only extra item in the Settings is the "Sanitize" option. They simply re-designed the dialog so there was no longer any need for the kludgy "Advanced" tree-view, instead everything is now nicely organised.
So: it's not bloating the browser as this functionality was all there already (bar Sanitize which really isn't that big a deal).
Secondly, it's not bloating the interface, as all they've actually done is work to make it more usable.
They have still stuck with offering the core feature-set that users will want, there is no progression to an overloaded Mozilla-style browser.
That said, I think they should look into adding integrated RSS support a la Safari for version two. It need not be built into the browser, but it would nice to have it as an optional extension in the installer, similar to the way the Web Development tools are shipped at the moment.
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You do realise that the only extra item in the Settings is the "Sanitize" option. They simply re-designed the dialog so there was no longer any need for the kludgy "Advanced" tree-view, instead everything is now nicely organised.
So: it's not bloating the browser as this functionality was all there already (bar Sanitize which really isn't that big a deal).
Secondly, it's not bloating the interface, as all they've actually done is work to make it more usable.
The privacy tab has 5 subtabs. Most of them only have one setting. How is that if not bloated?
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Sorry, I can find the answer to the question someone asked before.
Where is the search bar (the search bar, you know, the little white box near the location bar, with a "G" for google, where you can type some keywords, push Enter and the result page opens on the browser, and, yes, you can use other search engines if you prefer)?
Because the search bar is still present, just disabled in the screenshot, I hope...
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You have to visit a search site, such as www.google.com. You cannot use the search bar in the browser.
What I did was go to goggle, then right click in the search field and selected keyword, named bookmark g with keyword of g and viola, Opera style "g search pharse" searching from the location bar baby! Thanks for the tip whoever said that!
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From the article:
# Software update system to streamline product upgrades (currently disabled– will be turned on shortly for testing)
# Faster browser navigation with improvements to back and forward button performance - Fastback
# Drag-and-drop reordering for browser tabs
# Improvements to popup blocking
# Better support for Mac OS X (10.2 and greater) - Safari profile migrator, Aqua compliance and shell service
# Several security enhancements
I am constantly amazed about what features the developers keep adding to FF. When, FF seems perfect (to me) they add more improvements. Personally I am looking forward too:
1) Fastback
2) Update feature
3) Security enhancements (I am curious).
Does anyone know about Cairo?
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Bugger! I prefer having a separate text box for searching so I hope this has only been removed from the dev release.
Erm, there is a separate text box for searching. I don't know if it's there by default (I migrated my Firefox 1.0.5 prefs) but if it's not, you can customise your toolbars to add it in.
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That said, I think they should look into adding integrated RSS support a la Safari for version two. It need not be built into the browser, but it would nice to have it as an optional extension in the installer, similar to the way the Web Development tools are shipped at the moment.
They do. They're called Live Bookmarks.
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/live-bookmarks
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I like some of the new features they have added.
Some like the following are very useful.
1. Option to force links that open new windows
in a new tab
2. Option to ignore common Javascript annoyances
3. Option to remove entries from download manager .
A neat piece of work by FF developers.
Way to go Firefox!
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I like some of the new features they have added.
Some like the following are very useful.
1. Option to force links that open new windows
in a new tab
2. Option to ignore common Javascript annoyances
3. Option to remove entries from download manager .
EXCELLENT! I migrated from Opera to Firefox because of the website compatibility issues that were practically gone with Firefox, but the few things I missed were enforced tabs, the ability to manage files in the download manager, and quick back and forwarding.
Now if they could only solve the memory-bloat..
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Can you help me verify this situation. I open two tabs. Rearrange them using the new drag'n'drop. after that the tabs stop switching between the pages.
I didn't post a bug report because mine's not a clean install (SuSE 9.3 with some extensions.) I don't want to bother the develops if it is a error in one of the extensions (i suspect all-in-one-gestures). If someone has problems like this please write so we can figure out what's wrong and help the guys.
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This Alpha is realy cool. The forwards and back speed is great. Firefox 1.1 is going to be great. Hopefully I will be able a file a few bug reports but as of yet it has not crashed or bugged.
The new update system will update alpha 2 to the next version when they bring the service online.
Happy bug hunting !
Keep up the good work !
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