Linked by Adam S on Fri 22nd Jul 2005 20:54 UTC, submitted by Bascule
Oracle and SUN Technewsworld postulates that Gateway would be a prime takeover target for Sun Microsystems. Sun's competence on the desktop, they argue, would be greatly improved, as well as their ability to manage at an executive level.
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Bahh
by Lumbergh on Fri 22nd Jul 2005 21:19 UTC
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A Sun acquisition of Gateway is probably unlikely, but it would seem to make a lot of sense.

Just random daydreaming from a pundit.

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by Anonymous on Fri 22nd Jul 2005 21:24 UTC
???
by zizban on Fri 22nd Jul 2005 21:26 UTC
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Why would Sun want to jump into the commidty PC market where margins are slim and where they have zero experience?

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RE: ???
by Fusion on Fri 22nd Jul 2005 21:29 UTC in reply to "???"
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>>>Why would Sun want to jump into the commidty PC market where margins are slim and where they have zero experience?<<<

Because they *buy* said experience, and they may look more credible to the global community.

...at least, that's probably what they think.

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Oh My God
by segedunum on Fri 22nd Jul 2005 21:34 UTC
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It's Rob Enderle. Do not post Rob Enderle articles to this site. No one wants to read them.

And how on Earth Gateway gives Sun desktop expertise is anybody's guess. Gateway are a cheap-jack PC builder. I really wish I was a clueless idiot who could get paid for writing this sort of crap. Alas....

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Flamebait article
by japail on Fri 22nd Jul 2005 21:39 UTC
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It seems possible that acquiring Gateway would only succeed in diminishing Sun's brand. Who wants to associate their server brand with products from eMachines? Other than economy of scale benefits from having Gateway's PC infrastructure, what exactly would Gateway afford Sun in thin clients or workstations? Dvorak's Apple/Sun fantasy made more sense than Gateway.

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RE: Flamebait article
by joelito_pr on Sat 23rd Jul 2005 06:26 UTC in reply to "Flamebait article"
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Well, the last PC I actually bought was an eMachines 4 years ago and after building me a newer pc my sister's PC died on her and the parts from my old eMachines are now on her PC's case. So I don't think they are that bad

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everybodies doing it
by Anonymous on Fri 22nd Jul 2005 22:04 UTC
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Is it just me or is the only way large corporations can "innovate" is to buy up lackies to do their bidding?

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more likely scenario
by Anonymous on Fri 22nd Jul 2005 22:06 UTC
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"Sun purchases The Queen of England, Dracula and the number 5"

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Doubt it
by viniosity on Fri 22nd Jul 2005 22:16 UTC
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As an above poster said, the commodity PC business is brutal and the margins are bad. It could get Sun more mind-share with consumers but unless they plan to put Sparc-chips in those boxes or load them with OpenSolaris I don't see what experience they would gain that couldn't be had by selective hiring instead.

If I had to guess, I'd say they'd by Novell first. They'd get some great talent, real customers, and a solid linux offering for people who'd prefer linux over solaris (see below register article). Plus, with a P/E of 6 Novell is *cheap* right now.

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RE: Doubt it
by Anonymous on Sat 23rd Jul 2005 03:48 UTC in reply to "Doubt it"
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Sun is moving into the entry level x86 server market, where the margins are slim...

Sun has considered the PC business but will stick to marketing their workstations.

Apparently, they want to keep focus on the enterprise. If they got gateway for a steal then I would consider getting it. They got storagetek for a STEAL..

They keep buying shitty companies and need to get their head out of their ..... their cash pile is shrinking by the day...

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RE: Doubt it
by kaiwai on Sat 23rd Jul 2005 06:59 UTC in reply to "Doubt it"
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If I had to guess, I'd say they'd by Novell first. They'd get some great talent, real customers, and a solid linux offering for people who'd prefer linux over solaris (see below register article). Plus, with a P/E of 6 Novell is *cheap* right now.

Definately agree. They have some *GOOD* stuff, for both the desktop and server; coupled that with some cash injection to get the VB.NET up to speed, create a nice drag and drop GUI to create quick and dirty solutions for enterprise, it would make alot of sense in the long and short term.

Regarding the purchase of Gateway - it doesn't make much sense; if they wanted to enter into the desktop space, it would be as simple as putting together a pizza box machine, integrated everything, else to swap parts like motherboard, hard disk and cd/dvd drive, and sell the whole thing for around $500 including screen.

SUN has experience in the volume workstation market; the problem is, however, they have to weigh up the possible costs, and whether they'd ever make back the money they spent investing into the infrastructure, both in person hours, support etc. etc. I don't think it would be worth their while - if they were going to do something, they would be better off working with Dell, getting them to manufacture their desktops, rip off the Dell, spray paint it purple and throw on the SUN logo along with a copy of Solaris 10/11.

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Wow - this is a useless article
by Anonymous on Fri 22nd Jul 2005 22:25 UTC
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Was this guy high or bored when he wrote this article?

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Total nonsense
by mario on Fri 22nd Jul 2005 22:45 UTC
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What desktop expertise would Sun gain from Gateway, that they wouldn't from purchasing a copy of WindowsXP?

And by that I don't mean to say that WinXP has the best desktop around, just that Gateway knows nothing about developing GUIs and desktop environments!

And my comment is so obvious, that I wonder how could such an article be written or uttered. It's nonsensical.

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amazing
by bact on Fri 22nd Jul 2005 23:03 UTC
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I lost my word.

Able to score a reply is nice,
but this time, for this article, I wished I can score a post!

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"Gateway to the Sun"
by pravda on Fri 22nd Jul 2005 23:06 UTC
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It does have a nice ring to it. Too bad Gateway makes mostly mediocre products and has server overlap with Sun.

I would like Sun to come out with an AMD Turion64 17" laptop with full Solaris support, though. That would be cool.

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they what?
by butters on Fri 22nd Jul 2005 23:22 UTC
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I had no idea that Gateway had resurrected itself in such a dramatic fashion. I wonder why I haven't seen any other punditry to back this up. Thank you, Mr. Enderle! Without you, I would be out of touch with reality. <sighs>

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RE: they what?
by abraxas on Sat 23rd Jul 2005 04:37 UTC in reply to "they what?"
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I had no idea that Gateway had resurrected itself in such a dramatic fashion. I wonder why I haven't seen any other punditry to back this up. Thank you, Mr. Enderle! Without you, I would be out of touch with reality. <sighs>

Actaully Gateway IS doing a lot better. I've never really been a fan of Gateway but they are out in retail stores now as opposed to being sold direct and this has helped them a lot. Their prices are better than most of the other brands too.

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Sun Micro should probably buy Hardee's
by Anonymous on Sat 23rd Jul 2005 01:14 UTC
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the hamburger chain. Not that that's likely to happen, but the deal makes a surprising amount of sense at many levels.

Well, at least as much as Sun buying Gateway.

Paul G

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Rob Enderle is an idiot
by Anonymous on Sat 23rd Jul 2005 01:48 UTC
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Another bunch of drivel written by an idiot who has a day job of an IT analyst. I've read a lot of speculations about Sun, but this one is by far the worst. The guy who wrote it (Rob Enderle) apparently does not have any clue.

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Market Dynamics
by Anonymous on Sat 23rd Jul 2005 01:55 UTC
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All hardware today is commodity. The article was a joke, but buying a PC company (any) would provide them with the ability to secure a cost affordable OEM channel for Intel chips. This would allow them to sell the chips for less money because they would use PC vendor production plants and secure contracts to lower the overall cost.

The bottom line in anything and everything is profit. The only important thing in life is money. Without money a company is confined to a niche market, something that even Apple is beginning to brake away from (iPod line).

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v Retarded
by Anonymous on Sat 23rd Jul 2005 08:52 UTC
v Enderle
by Anonymous on Sat 23rd Jul 2005 13:48 UTC
v I dont even want to read this article
by Anonymous on Sat 23rd Jul 2005 14:57 UTC
did carly fiorina get hired by sun?
by Anonymous on Sat 23rd Jul 2005 16:05 UTC
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gee, i hope not...
smells like a HP-Compaq merger....

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would veritas make more sense?
by Anonymous on Sun 24th Jul 2005 03:48 UTC
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Sorry about being OT.

Now that sun has aquired storagetek, owning veritas would make a sun an unbeatable end-to-end high-end storage management company.

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Sun needs to do an Apple
by Anonymous on Sun 24th Jul 2005 17:08 UTC
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Screw the server market, do an Apple and make some stylish laptops, workstations and add some Sun branded MP3 players with a Sun music store. Apple's got OSX, Sun can counter with Solaris. Apple does Intel/PPC, Sun counters with AMD/Sparc.


Apple and Sun can be the yin-yang of high fashion.

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Better executive management
by lpetrazickis on Mon 25th Jul 2005 14:16 UTC
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If Gateway's executives are better than Sun's, then the first thing they will do after being bought out is fire the old Sun executives, or -- better yet -- spin off Gateway with all the old Sun deadwood managers while keeping Sun for themselves.

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YAESI
by Anonymous on Tue 26th Jul 2005 01:08 UTC
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Yet Another Enderle Stupid Idea

Yet, there were some interesting ideas. Rather than gateway as the path to the desktop, why not Apple?

This would make more sense - two great companies merged together.

Anyway, if Sun is such a stupid company, how is it that they have Java - one of the biggest impacts to the software industry, ever.

I don't see Gateway making these types of contributions. Oh wait, they did have the cow boxes and the cow commercials.

Apple and Sun both innovate. An Apple/Sun/Intel combination could be quite appealing.

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