Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 24th Jul 2005 00:51 UTC, submitted by Andy McLaughlin
OSNews, Generic OSes Visopsys is an alternative OS for PC-compatibles. Version 0.56 is a maintenance and bugfix release, with important fixes to eliminate potential boot problems, faulty EXT2/3 mounts, and problems with the detection of secondary hard disks. Important multitasker improvements related to process initialization have also been back-ported from the 0.6 development branch. Download page and changelog.
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Interesting
by re_re on Sun 24th Jul 2005 01:04 UTC
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Looks like an interesting project

I think i will download it and play with it a bit... maybe check out the source to.

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v Visopys
by Varg Vikernes on Sun 24th Jul 2005 01:51 UTC
Shame
by Anonymous on Sun 24th Jul 2005 02:20 UTC
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Well, someone writes a whole operating system from scratch, and some people just pile on with the negative comments. On a site devoted partly to alternative operating systems, no less.

But, I usually assume it's mostly Linux zealots. To those people, I would say "thank goodness Linus never listened to people like you, or Linux might never have happened".

How will the "next Linux" ever appear unless someone "reinvents the wheel"? Or even just the new ideas alternative OSes can bring to the table?

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I Like It
by dswain on Sun 24th Jul 2005 02:32 UTC
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2005-07-03

The idea behind the partitioner is a fantastic one to say the least, as having something as clean as Partiton Magic around that is easily accessible is always a positive. I wonder though how the shell/scripting language is. Also, I wonder about some other programming things like having a C/C++ compiler, or how feasible it would be to port something like TCL or Python to it for some program development.

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v GUI
by Anonymous on Sun 24th Jul 2005 02:35 UTC
Coolness factor
by Ronald Vos on Sun 24th Jul 2005 03:05 UTC
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2005-07-06

I miss the coolness factor AltOSes like Menuet, Plan 9 and Unununium have.

But still, impressive work, and there is some use potentially as a sort of 'rescue' tool perhaps thanks to it's partition manager + liveCD support.

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RE: Coolness factor
by carbon-12 on Sun 24th Jul 2005 03:54 UTC in reply to "Coolness factor"
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2005-07-06

"I miss the coolness factor AltOSes like Menuet, Plan 9 and Unununium have."

Have to agree there, in particular with Unununium. An OS written almost entirely in Python, very cool!

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v Osnews turning into crap
by Anonymous on Sun 24th Jul 2005 03:28 UTC
RE: Osnews turning into crap
by dswain on Sun 24th Jul 2005 03:43 UTC in reply to "Osnews turning into crap"
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2005-07-03

What posts/opinions have been deleted? I think you're mistaken, as the threshold for anonymous users is set to -1. In turn, that wouldn't allow you to see a few of the posts which get low ratings from users. Nothing is deleted, just out of sight, unless you have an account on OSNews which will let you change it.

I think that's what you mean, at least. Just trying to clarify. In fact because of it, virtually none of the posts, or at least much less, moderation is done of the site, as it can be done by users now.

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v Convenient excuse.
by Anonymous on Sun 24th Jul 2005 03:50 UTC
RE: Convenient excuse.
by dswain on Sun 24th Jul 2005 04:05 UTC in reply to "Convenient excuse. "
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2005-07-03

Fair point, but I don't have the power to change that as I'm not an administrator. It's not technically moderating down people, it's simply a rating system. I choose to view all of the posts. To see them all, you can make a free account and change it. I'm simply just trying to tell you how the system works now; It doesn't reflect whether I vote up or down comments (I normally don't bother.)

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RE: Convenient excuse.
by Eugenia on Mon 25th Jul 2005 08:21 UTC in reply to "Convenient excuse. "
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2005-06-28

If you want to see comments below -1, you simply use the drop-down combo box to change your threshold.

Failing that, you can create an account and set your threshold to -5.

Failing that too, you might want to change the way you comment on stories.

And yes, the default is -1 so new readers don't have to read the crap that some people are posting. This was a much needed feature.

Lastly, your comment was moderated down to -4 by READERS, not by the admins of this site. Which means, that the READERS themselves didn't approve of your message OR the way it was WRITTEN.

So, fix your attitude, that is my ultimate advise to you. Visopsys is a hobby OS, it is NOT going to be, EVER, an OS for the mass of the people. It's a test, an experiement by a single developer. Like all experiements, the "point" itself is what matters, not the cleaning up of the looks. The "point" can be a lot of things, from just "killing some time", to "trying to make the fastest possible algorithm to count something, to "make a fast bootable OS, or to "make the most secure OS". But in hobby OSes, almost NEVER the point is "make a commercially usable, good looking OS". And so that's why your comment was rated as trash by the readers. Because you don't get it.

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Cool
by ecko on Sun 24th Jul 2005 04:47 UTC
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2005-07-08

I think this is really cool. Small open projects like this are where the big guys get some ideas and some little guys get their talents recognized. Good job guys.

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@ shame
by re_re on Sun 24th Jul 2005 05:45 UTC
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2005-07-06

many would to a certain extent consider me a linux zealot..... yet.. i am very open to this.... linux zealots are not to be confused with linux idiots..... there is a big difference.... and if you're not paying attention.... i made the first post

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Looks interesting but...
by joelito_pr on Sun 24th Jul 2005 06:25 UTC
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2005-07-07

Monolithic Kernels are so 1990s...

Altough the features look promising...

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Appropriate...
by Tuishimi on Sun 24th Jul 2005 10:21 UTC
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2005-07-06

...has a sort of OS/2-ish feel to it. Good timing seeing how IBM announced its demise.

I didn't read through his entire site, but I wonder what sort of GUI modifications he is planning. Seemed sort of mysterious about it. ;)

Anyway, nice little OS. Any different flavor of OS is a good flavor in my book. Nice to see people are still out there hacking away on their own, personal, projects despite the fact that most people would simply "poo-poo" their efforts as a waste of time.

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Nice
by Anonymous on Sun 24th Jul 2005 11:26 UTC
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Nice OS, only problem is i dont hear of it to often. Is there a live ISO? With what Visopsys dose a live ISO would be one of the best ideas to get it spread further. Sort of like a tool CD, I use slackware that way and have a mem tester on a bootable CD too, I would add Visopsys.

P.S.: Dont complain about your post geting moderated down, just think, are you contributing something constructive? If not youre going to stay at Score: 0 at best.

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RE: Nice
by Anonymous on Sun 24th Jul 2005 11:27 UTC in reply to "Nice"
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it is bootable ;) just found the info

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RE[2]: Nice
by skx2 on Sun 24th Jul 2005 14:49 UTC in reply to "RE: Nice"
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2005-07-06

I tried booting it with qemu - and just got a blue screen.

I guess it doesn't support the hardware which qemu emulates, which is unfortunate. I like experimenting with other distributions of Linux, and some of the *BSDs but only with Qemu - I don't have a spare machine to reboot and play with all day, sadly.

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v first i ever heard of it
by Anonymous on Sun 24th Jul 2005 12:13 UTC
RE[3]: Nice
by Jimbo on Sun 24th Jul 2005 14:51 UTC
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2005-07-22

"I tried booting it with qemu - and just got a blue screen."

Judging by the screenshots, you're supposed to get a blue screen:
http://visopsys.org/img/screenshots/screenshot3.jpg

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Out Of Curiosity
by dswain on Sun 24th Jul 2005 14:56 UTC
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2005-07-03

Has anyone had any experience with it yet, other than the qemu experiment? I would love to try the livecd myself, but my cd-writer doesn't happen to be working right now, so any experiences would be nice to hear, good or bad I suppose.

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well done
by present_arms on Sun 24th Jul 2005 17:58 UTC
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2005-07-09

oh and for people knocking coz of no hardware detection, make the damn drivers yourself... what you mean you can't, so why are you moaning that there are no hardware drivers? you think that linux had all drivers from ver 1.0 or windows did when that first started?

some people

good work ...

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comment on visopsys
by distantvoices on Mon 25th Jul 2005 09:34 UTC
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2005-07-06

I am a long time follower of the visopsys project. I'm watching it's progress since it's first coming ups (there's a version dated in 2001 and that one I've tested too).

Being an os developer too (I'm the leader of the blueillusionOS project - oh and the main developer), I know how much work and dedication are put into this project.

If for sure has its small edges and some hassles to be ironed out, but one can use it for experimenting around. :-) Besides, I think, that the GUI of this OS is simple but not stupid. You can use it and navigate around it with *know paradigms*. One knows to use the title bar to drag around a window. One knows to press the x button in the top right corner to get rid of a window. etc. It's no miracle to use that OS.

I for one just think, the author should reconsider f. ex. the behaviour of the visopsys menues. They appear inside a window. They are treated as controls inside the window despite they should be popups of their own - kinda containers which *own* a window, so they can overlap everything, as they are just popping up *on Top* Second, as soon as a menue loses focus - it should disappear. Not upon lose focus inside its parent window. Just upon lose focus.

apart from this: visopsys plays skillfully with device block caching. This beast speeds data access up to quite a measure.

Visopsys still misses line editing in the shell and it still has no text editor of its own. Maybe I should port the BlueIllusionOS text editor to visopsys as a contribution? *gg*

Oh - and I like blue. :-)

Just My 2 cent.

BTW: @certain ppl:PlS refrain from posting crap and afterwards whining about being rated down. Post constructive stuff. That's more enjoyable for us all. Being polite and respectful has nothing to do with posting "admiring stuff".

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