Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 29th Jul 2005 19:04 UTC, submitted by Ethan
Windows Windows XP Service Pack 3 is in the works and is supposed to be released before Windows Vista. The following site has an ongoing updated list of fixes and downloads going into SP3.
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by Anonymous on Fri 29th Jul 2005 19:55 UTC
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woot

love installing sp's

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Erm...
by Anonymous on Fri 29th Jul 2005 20:39 UTC
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That looked like a list of availible hotfixes...

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RE: Erm...
by Pseudo Cyborg on Fri 29th Jul 2005 23:56 UTC in reply to "Erm..."
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That's all a service pack is and always has been.

It's nice because then I can slipstream the service pack into my installation disk and not lose precious hours downloading hotfixes any time I have to do a clean install.

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RE[2]: Erm...
by Anonymous on Sat 30th Jul 2005 10:29 UTC in reply to "RE: Erm..."
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It's nice because then I can slipstream the service pack into my installation disk and not lose precious hours downloading hotfixes any time I have to do a clean install.

Without a doubt, this is my favorite feature of Windows. All other OS's should take this.

Matt

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Huh?
by Bobmeister on Fri 29th Jul 2005 21:01 UTC
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They changed their mind? WOW....

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RE: Huh?
by jayson.knight on Fri 29th Jul 2005 21:19 UTC in reply to "Huh?"
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Probably due to the ever slipping ship date of Vista; customers probably demanded it.

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It will be done BEFORE Longhorn?
by Anonymous on Fri 29th Jul 2005 21:19 UTC
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They have to hurry ;)

Or should I say, Hasta la Vista?

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wow, the list is still pretty big, for a company that does not put out the right updates. microsoft puts out alot of them. At least they are trying.

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this was always planned
by butters on Fri 29th Jul 2005 21:38 UTC
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MS always intended to release IE7 (in particular) for Windows XP before the longhorn release. Same with Avalon and Indigo, although I don't see them on this laundry list. They realize that they need to get these techs out to the broadest audience in order to get the requisite developer support (especially for Avalon and Indigo, since IE7 doesn't really change (m)any of the fundamentally nonstandard rendering specs).

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Ballons
by JrezIN on Fri 29th Jul 2005 22:47 UTC
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I hope this service pack fixes the ballons notifications.

Since SP2, ballons usually don't timeout and stay on the screen until you click them. ...and as some programs show ballons expecting timeouts, it's a bit annoying.

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pseudo:
by AdamW on Sat 30th Jul 2005 00:45 UTC
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Rubbish. Half of the stuff in SP2 wasn't released as a hotfix. Service packs, in Microsoft parlance, can include things you can't get any other way. Updates which are simply a collection of previous fixes are usually called 'update rollups' - e.g. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/891861 .

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by kaiwai on Sat 30th Jul 2005 08:56 UTC in reply to "pseudo:"
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True, not all hot fixes are released to public; Microsoft only releases a few to the public, alot of them are only available to their corporate, pay-per-fix customers who pay an arm and a leg for 'special service'.

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Applications
by ankitmalik on Sat 30th Jul 2005 02:35 UTC
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How many apps is it supposed to break?

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Happy patching!
by Anonymous on Sat 30th Jul 2005 04:00 UTC
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Remember friends, backdoors are only classified as patchable remote exploit bugs if they're discovered. ;)

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re:{RE[2]: Erm...}
by Anonymous on Sat 30th Jul 2005 12:48 UTC
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Unlike windows Linux isn't designed to install over and over again from a fresh start when problems arise.Linux is designed to last.

If you are in sync with the update server there's mostly not that much to update at once.furthermore with every update you don't get solely patches but if you wish upgrades as well.You don't have to slipstream with Linux because the distro's have all new releases have everything allready patched and *upgraded* so you don't have to wait 7years on something you didn't ask for and hardly can use.

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v What a joke
by Anonymous on Sat 30th Jul 2005 13:12 UTC
v Source code
by Anonymous on Sat 30th Jul 2005 13:54 UTC
RE: Source code
by Anonymous on Sat 30th Jul 2005 15:29 UTC in reply to "Source code"
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Ineresting. And how big exactly are the typical set of updates for say, Fedora Core weigh in at these days? More than SP2 for a "personal desktop" install at any rate.

Geeze. Get a girlfriend or something.

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RE[2]: Source code
by mint on Sun 31st Jul 2005 04:19 UTC in reply to "RE: Source code"
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Considering the breadth of software included with FC, it's really no wonder that the total size of patches available would be larger.

The amount of software that is included on the XP CD is puny in comparison with almost any Linux distributions software library.

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RE[3]: Source code
by Anonymous on Sun 31st Jul 2005 13:31 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Source code"
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The scale of these service packs can't be thrown out of consideration if we are to compare the two. These service packs are basically updated versions of the entire operating system, and thus, sizes of 200-300M are not unexpected or unreasonable. On another note, I see no reason to attack any patching with regards to Fedora Core; this is a pointless battleground on which to fight.

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v heh
by Anonymous on Sat 30th Jul 2005 16:52 UTC
v If SP2 didn't slow it down enough.
by Anonymous on Sat 30th Jul 2005 18:29 UTC
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So would we rather they didn't even try?

Windows seems like a rusty bucket that's springing leaks, and all Microsoft is doing is patching up the rusty parts as they start getting holes... I don't like it either, but I'd rather they keep doing that before trying to bring a fundamentally re-written OS to market than have everyone's computer collapse in on itself.

Sure, having that happen would be good for Linux and good for Mac (and probably good for the other smaller projects like Zeta, Syllable and SkyOS) but really. In the short run it'd be catastrophic. Massive problems with Windows would probably mean enormous traffic of worms and virii and DDOS attacks...

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hehe..... well... guess it would suck to be a windows user in that case lol

jk, but.... in any event, for those of you who do use windows, i hope sp3 is worth while.... while i do not like microsoft i do like competition..... and if microsoft putts out a good product (sp3, then vista) that means linux/bsd will get that much better to..... competition is good.

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^ that is me (re_re)... forgot to log in
by re_re on Sun 31st Jul 2005 01:41 UTC
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oops

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