Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 1st Aug 2005 14:17 UTC, submitted by sonic1001
Java Sun and General Motors have announced that GM will be building its entire SOA system on JES, which will be the largest single Java deployment ever. This marks both a victory for Sun's new licensing policies, as well as makes Sun's recent acquisition of SeeBeyond pay off. The new agreement will deploy Java's full line of identity management services and development tools, running on Solaris 10.
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Sun/Java naysayers take heed
by Anonymous on Mon 1st Aug 2005 16:57 UTC
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Sun's new strategy is appealing to businesses. From Java 5 to OpenSolaris to Opteron, they've really come around in the past couple years. They've also gone from bleeding money, to break-even, to profitable, too.

And people said big-ol' Sun couldn't compete in commodity markets. Well, they are!

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v RE: Sun/Java naysayers take heed
by Anonymous on Mon 1st Aug 2005 18:35 UTC in reply to "Sun/Java naysayers take heed"
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wow - pretty harsh words. I'd love to know who you worked for so we could find out how to help. We have tons of customers globally running Solaris/JES, and seeing radical cost/performance improvements.

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SOA?
by Anonymous on Mon 1st Aug 2005 18:05 UTC
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What's an "SOA" system?

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RE: SOA?
by Anonymous on Mon 1st Aug 2005 18:29 UTC in reply to "SOA?"
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Seminuclear Orthogonal Assimilation System

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soa
by Anonymous on Mon 1st Aug 2005 18:30 UTC
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With about 2 seconds of effort and the help of google, soa turns out to mean "service oriented architecture."

Next time, look it up yourself, it's pretty easy.

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Re: SOA?
by whartung on Mon 1st Aug 2005 18:31 UTC
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SOA is a "hot" TLA and means "Service Oriented Architecture". Essentially the goal is to make services within the company more loosely coupled and gain flexibility in the process.

What this means is that GM will be taking current systems as well as any new systems and integrate them using the JES as a foundation.

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RE: Re: SOA?
by Anonymous on Mon 1st Aug 2005 19:26 UTC in reply to "Re: SOA?"
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shows how much you guys know,

its obviously a device for world domination

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RE: Re: SOA?
by segedunum on Mon 1st Aug 2005 23:15 UTC in reply to "Re: SOA?"
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SOA is a "hot" TLA and means "Service Oriented Architecture". Essentially the goal is to make services within the company more loosely coupled and gain flexibility in the process.

SOA (can't be bothered to spell it out) is a marketing term designed to make something that has been around for years look brand new. IBM, Microsoft and Sun may be hyping it and trying to make money from it, but for the companies who look at implementing this crap they've already abandoned it because they simply cannot work out what it is. Even if they do, it's everything that's been done before except even more badly.

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GM or GE?
by Anonymous on Mon 1st Aug 2005 20:21 UTC
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Did SUN get GM and GE in the same day? Does anyone know which is which? Which one did they really get?

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Re: GM or GE?
by Wayne Abbott on Mon 1st Aug 2005 21:45 UTC
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It was both - Solaris 10 & JES stack for GM (http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050727/sfw016.html?.v=17) and primarily the Identity Suite for GE (http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050801/nym052.html?.v=18). Yes I work for Sun...

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Stocks
by Ronald Vos on Mon 1st Aug 2005 23:03 UTC
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I never understand the stockmarket. You'd expect Sun to be up, but it's down half a percent. Someone know more than us? ;)

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RE: Stocks
by kaiwai on Tue 2nd Aug 2005 04:45 UTC in reply to "Stocks"
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Well, atleast it isn't over valued like certain companies listed on the sharemarket. Companies making less than Teltra Australia, and yet have share values 100x that of Telstra.

The sharemarket is market based around the bigger fool, hype and speculation - people have been burned during the dot-con bust, and people will never learn - they'll repeat the same mistake over and over again - investing into 'cool' companies have no basic fundamentals.

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Oh Wonderful
by segedunum on Mon 1st Aug 2005 23:11 UTC
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Sun's first real customer for JES!

Oh no, sorry I forgot. They're giving it away because GM is the only company saying anything favourable about Solaris 10, or Sun in general, and is the only company talking about moving away from Linux.

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