Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 13th Aug 2005 17:50 UTC
Microsoft Microsoft's Linux and Open Source Software Lab serves as both a place to examine the threat posed to Microsoft products by open-source offerings and a venue for testing software from Microsoft and others that's designed to span that divide. The lab is home to hundreds of servers and desktops that run dozens of different types of Linux and Unix. Here are photos of the lab.
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I wouldn't be surprised if...
by Anonymous on Sat 13th Aug 2005 18:32 UTC
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I bet my guts they are working hard to come up with a virus that finally affects Linux boxes.

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RE: I wouldn't be surprised if...
by re_re on Sat 13th Aug 2005 18:56 UTC in reply to "I wouldn't be surprised if..."
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I would be supprised.... i don't think microsoft would do this internally even if they were to do it.

they would hire people from the outside to do it.

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And of course...
by Anonymous on Sat 13th Aug 2005 18:35 UTC
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... Linux code would help Vista be more stable, and we'd never know.

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hehe
by Anonymous on Sat 13th Aug 2005 18:50 UTC
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those pictures are amusing..

wonder if they learned how to add themselves a user account yet..

My Linux lab looks more impressive than that. ;)

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Photos
by _dev_null on Sat 13th Aug 2005 18:51 UTC
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Those little penguins are saying: See no FUD, Hear no FUD, speak no FUD.

What are Microsoft's motives wrt to this Linux lab? What do they really hope to achieve?

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RE: Photos
by Thom_Holwerda on Sat 13th Aug 2005 19:16 UTC in reply to "Photos"
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What are Microsoft's motives wrt to this Linux lab? What do they really hope to achieve?

Well, the answer to that is simple: "Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer." (Sun Tzu).

The point is, Microsoft deams Linux as a threat; and instead of discarding your enemy, it is better to get to know it, to understand why customers (*not* zealots) prefer it over Windows.

The first step to beating your enemy, is getting to know your enemy. Do you think Red Hat's HQ is a Windows-less environment? Don't count on it.

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v m$ employees = linux zealots?
by Anonymous on Sat 13th Aug 2005 19:31 UTC
RE: m$ employees = linux zealots?
by Hugo on Sat 13th Aug 2005 20:26 UTC in reply to "m$ employees = linux zealots?"
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They even submited bug reports on apache and gaim a while ago I think...

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v re: lab
by Anonymous on Sat 13th Aug 2005 19:51 UTC
RE: re: lab
by Anonymous on Sat 13th Aug 2005 20:26 UTC in reply to "re: lab"
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ohhhhh, that looks like a massive lab, 2 desktop pc's!

RTFA or more accurately LATFP. Look at Picture 2 A large number of rack mounted servers running a variety of Linux distros.

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Its an invasion!
by Anonymous on Sat 13th Aug 2005 20:00 UTC
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Its like Normandy on Microsoft land! ;)
The initial assault was extremely successful with minimal casualties. LOL!

On a serious note, this shows MS is taking Linux and other solutions quite seriously. Linux seems to be the biggest threat.

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No BSD's?
by Anonymous on Sat 13th Aug 2005 20:14 UTC
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I bet they have the BSD's in the mix too even if they are not explicitly mentioned... If not, I'll be very disappointed.

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RE: No BSD's?
by KugelKurt on Sat 13th Aug 2005 20:23 UTC in reply to "No BSD's?"
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First: Mac OS X (Darwin) is a BSD.
Second: SFU are mostly based on OpenBSD
Third: Rotor has been released for FreeBSD.

I'm sure there are a few "regular" BSD installations.

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v They (m$) submitted a patch for GAIM?
by Anonymous on Sat 13th Aug 2005 20:29 UTC in reply to "No BSD's?"
yes yes
by Anonymous on Sat 13th Aug 2005 20:25 UTC
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We already know about Microsoft's Linux lab, enough PR you marketing droids.

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dang...
by Anonymous on Sat 13th Aug 2005 21:49 UTC
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its not MS secret Linux lab, its my place. How on earth did these guys take those photos .......

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Topsecret
by Matt24 on Sat 13th Aug 2005 21:53 UTC
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I am more interested in M$'s OSX lab, but that will be topsecret, since it serves another purpose!

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RE: Topsecret
by re_re on Sat 13th Aug 2005 22:25 UTC in reply to "Topsecret"
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i'm more interested in M$'s Commodore64 lab... but that is topsecret to lol

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what about the Windows beta test lab?
by pravda on Sat 13th Aug 2005 22:17 UTC
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Otherwise known as "the world".

Can we get some marketing slime about that, too?

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Apple
by Phuqker on Sun 14th Aug 2005 02:16 UTC
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I wondered for a moment whether Microsoft had an Apple lab, but then I realized that they have the Mac BU.

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v ARE WE NOT MEN?
by Anonymous on Sun 14th Aug 2005 05:55 UTC
v RE: ARE WE NOT MEN?
by Anonymous on Mon 15th Aug 2005 07:23 UTC in reply to "ARE WE NOT MEN?"
Old news?
by Anonymous on Sun 14th Aug 2005 08:15 UTC
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Isn't this old news? I'm pretty sure that I already seem this article before, like, last week, perhaps on Newsforge or somewhere else.

DeadFish Man

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How poor ;)
by Anonymous on Sun 14th Aug 2005 08:54 UTC
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They only have a couple of servers, to desktops and one notebook and nobody to work? ;-)

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Mod parent up ++++++ Excellent post

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RPM
by Anonymous on Sun 14th Aug 2005 10:56 UTC
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a virus that finally affects Linux boxes.

There already is one. It's called Redhat Package Manager.

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RE: Photos
by Anonymous on Sun 14th Aug 2005 11:27 UTC
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RE: "The point is, Microsoft deams Linux as a threat; and instead of discarding your enemy, it is better to get to know it, to understand why customers (*not* zealots) prefer it over Windows."

i prefer Linux because it is both free as in beer and in opensource, and it works plenty good for me, KDE & XFCE both have multiple virtual desktops which is better than a single desktop when managing multiple applications, Linux does not have the draconian EULAs and product activation tieing the OS to the MS-borg, Linux offers a choice of distributions, microsoft wont be able to beat this offer, so MS can discect thier copies of Linux all they want and there wont be anything they can use against it, about the only thing they can do is steal ideas...

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RE: re: lab
by Anonymous on Sun 14th Aug 2005 13:33 UTC
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> UTC in reply to "re: lab" ohhhhh, that looks like a massive lab, 2 desktop pc's!

Those aren't "desktop pc's" al all. Their Avocent / Cybex KVM switch frontent boxen.

In non-MCSE administrated Unix labs one 'd be more likely to find SSH/X-Window for in-band and Conserver managed serial-consoles for out-of-band stuff though (the latter either daisy-chained or via a some reverse-terminal servers.)

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RE[2]: Topsecret
by Anonymous on Sun 14th Aug 2005 17:35 UTC
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Here's the homepage of that secret lab:
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/

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Porting
by joelito_pr on Mon 15th Aug 2005 04:32 UTC
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Well Microsoft already coded for Unix with their products for MacOSX, and with Apple switch to X86 (MS Favorite Platform) I see no reason why they should not figure out a way to make money out of Linux geeks...

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Should we wonder
by Anonymous on Mon 15th Aug 2005 14:06 UTC
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The yet untold part of this story; The best Linux distro on the planet is likely the one MS has created behind closed doors. Needless to say they have the resources to do so in grand fashion.

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Luminocity!
by Anonymous on Tue 16th Aug 2005 05:04 UTC
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Look at the first picture. It looks like he's running Luminocity!

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M$ Linux, get it now!
by Anonymous on Tue 16th Aug 2005 06:57 UTC
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Maybe Micro$oft in the future will do M$ Linux, a linux distribution by microsoft...

Wait...they done it now!: <a href="http://www.mslinux.org">mslinux

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