Linked by David Adams on Tue 16th Aug 2005 17:12 UTC
Games An intrepid hacker has got Windows 95 running on a Sony Playstation Portable. The PSP uses a MIPS R4000 CPU and Windows is actually running emulated on Bochs, so it's probably not that useable, and it's no substitute for the ongoing effort to get Linux running natively on the Sony gaming handheld.
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lol nice
by Anonymous on Tue 16th Aug 2005 17:30 UTC
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ridiculous.. in a good way

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Why?
by Anonymous on Tue 16th Aug 2005 17:30 UTC
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Why would anyone want to load Windows on a PSP (or anything else, for that matter)? Because it is there?

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Not worth the trouble
by Anonymous on Tue 16th Aug 2005 17:32 UTC
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15 minutes to boot, no hardware access, no network access. That pretty much sums it up.

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RE: Not worth the trouble
by Anonymous on Tue 16th Aug 2005 21:43 UTC in reply to "Not worth the trouble"
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for FUN!

because they can.

jeez you never do things just for the hell of it do you?
everything must have a purpose.


must not have very much fun either.

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Sol!
by JrezIN on Tue 16th Aug 2005 17:35 UTC
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Man!! Have you any idead how many people are rushing right now to gaming stores, getting new PSPs just because , now, they can play Solitaire just about anywhere and anytime?!

It's PSP's killer app! ;]

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Nintendo DS
by Anonymous on Tue 16th Aug 2005 17:42 UTC
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DSLinux has Linux running on a DS. Let's be objective in the console wars. ;-)

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RE: Nintendo DS
by fsck on Tue 16th Aug 2005 18:19 UTC in reply to "Nintendo DS"
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Yes it does but does anyone care? No.
Is there any excitement about the DS? Not really - Infact quite the opposite people seem to ridicule it alot.....all those screens, the ugliness etc. The games look mostly awful however i've heard they have excellent gameplay.......but since when has that mattered to most gamers.......it really won't sell.....

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RE[2]: Nintendo DS
by orestes on Tue 16th Aug 2005 18:27 UTC in reply to "RE: Nintendo DS"
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but since when has that mattered to most gamers

Pretty much always, but serious gamers are a pretty small minority these days.

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RE[3]: Nintendo DS
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 16th Aug 2005 23:19 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Nintendo DS"
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>but since when has that mattered to most gamers

Pretty much always, but serious gamers are a pretty small minority these days.


I agree. I have much more fun playing Pong than playing the latest Quake VIII Tournament Nukem 7D.

But that's just me.

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RE[2]: Nintendo DS
by Ronald Vos on Tue 16th Aug 2005 21:31 UTC in reply to "RE: Nintendo DS"
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Ridicule the DS all you want, but it's got better pricing, better games, more innovation AND Linux running natively.

But you're free to use the PSP with emulated Windows ;)

(PS: why hasn't anyone loaded up BeOS/Haiku yet!?)

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Now, what would be cool....
by MYOB on Tue 16th Aug 2005 18:08 UTC
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would be WindowsNT for MIPS running -natively- on the PSP....

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Re: Nintendo DS
by Anonymous on Tue 16th Aug 2005 18:09 UTC
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Let's be objective in the console wars.

Here's how I'm objective : PSP > DS.

:-)

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If only...
by orestes on Tue 16th Aug 2005 18:18 UTC
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They'd port RISC OS to the PSP. That would give me an exscuse to dust the damn thing off and use it.

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You said:
"Let's be objective in the console wars.

Here's how I'm objective : PSP > DS.

:-)"


I say, $PSP>$DS.

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Haha
by Anonymous on Tue 16th Aug 2005 18:26 UTC
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Much cooler than FreeBSD or whatever on Xbox :p

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Too much Time
by Smartpatrol on Tue 16th Aug 2005 18:38 UTC
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People have way too much time on their hands. Dude gets an A+ for coolness but a D- for usefulness.

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that's cool
by natefrogg on Tue 16th Aug 2005 19:00 UTC
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i think it's kinda' cool, not very useful, but fun

i'm surprised osnews has had nothing to say about all the people running osx86 on regular pcs yet though...sounds like more newsworthy news than this imo

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Yawn
by Vonskippy on Tue 16th Aug 2005 19:06 UTC
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Proves that "clever" doesn't equal "smart".

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innovation
by Anonymous on Tue 16th Aug 2005 19:06 UTC
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it is a just a "proof a concept", your brains are too small to understand that.

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toasters?
by Anonymous on Tue 16th Aug 2005 19:10 UTC
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tell me when they get windows running on toasters.

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uhm...
by Anonymous on Tue 16th Aug 2005 19:10 UTC
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[quote]MIPS R4000 CPU[/quote]

Isn't that what the N64 used?

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RE: uhm...
by damunzy on Tue 16th Aug 2005 20:24 UTC in reply to "uhm..."
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http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/jspackman/n64/n64.html
"The N64's RISC CPU is a 64 bit R4300i running at over 93 MHz."

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too bad...
by Anonymous on Tue 16th Aug 2005 20:35 UTC
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[quote] 15 minutes to boot [/quote]

It's a shame the PSP's battery life is only 14 minutes.

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RE: too bad...
by Anonymous on Wed 17th Aug 2005 00:14 UTC in reply to "too bad..."
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hehehe, i love it.

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v Thanks for the good laugh
by Anonymous on Tue 16th Aug 2005 20:52 UTC
DS is better even if weaker
by Anonymous on Tue 16th Aug 2005 20:59 UTC
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The PSP to me is just a handheld Playstation, and I was never a fan of the Playstation and I don't like the idea of ONLY playing 3D titles so I stick with the DS.
Underpowered it may be compared to the PSP, it is cheaper, it still packs quite a punch (see mario ds if you don't believe me), and it has the BEST control set up for FPS's where as Sony only has a Left (oh my god is that funny) analog like a N64 or Dreamcast or something wich we all know, unless you are left handed, is FPS hell.

On top of all this the DS, can currently run linux, it has a touch screen so you can have a virtual keyboard easy, plus it can respond to voice. beat that for innovation!

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This site...
by Anonymous on Tue 16th Aug 2005 21:09 UTC
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...is turning into another Slashdot with comments like:

"and it's no substitute for the ongoing effort to get Linux running natively on the Sony gaming handheld"

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RE: This site...
by Gnomonic on Wed 17th Aug 2005 00:10 UTC in reply to "This site..."
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Slashdot, what do you mean? I for one welcome our new PSP-Linux overlords. Just imagine a portable Beowulf cluster...

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PSP/DS
by bile on Tue 16th Aug 2005 21:38 UTC
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I own both... and they are both good machines. They have different targets and different games. Sometimes I want Twisted Metal on the go or in the living room playing online while watching TV. Sometimes I want something like Meteos or Nanostray on the DS or just want to be able to play something more modern like Mario DS and easily switch to a GBA game. The PSP is hardly only 3D and the DS is hardly all 2D. Also development on both machines is fun... though easier on the PSP with the 1.0 or 1.5 firmware.

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RE: Why?
by Anonymous on Tue 16th Aug 2005 21:49 UTC
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Why would anyone want to load Windows on a PSP (or anything else, for that matter)? Because it is there?
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You could use it to load "home brew" programs. I'm thinking about getting a PSP because people have found ways to get SNES, NES, Genesis, etc. emulators running on the PSP. The ability to play Mario or Final Fantasy (back when they were good on the SNES before going downhill on the Playstation) on the road is very appealing to me.

Having Windows (a modified Linux would probably be more useful) could make for an easier environment in which to load your home brew programs.

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RE[2]: Why?
by Anonymous on Tue 16th Aug 2005 22:00 UTC in reply to "RE: Why?"
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Having Windows (a modified Linux would probably be more useful) could make for an easier environment in which to load your home brew programs.

Well, no... Windows is running here under Bochs, emulating an x86 instruction set on a MIPS CPU. Trying to run anything else on top of that would be a waste of time - you're losing too much processing power to the OS and emulation layer.

Running Linux or a BSD as a native OS might be more practical though. No emulation layer, and the OS can more easily be trimmed down to run on a limited platform.

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Interesting, I suppose...
by bornagainenguin on Wed 17th Aug 2005 08:53 UTC
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...but does it play games?

--bornagainpenguin (who really wishes they'd let him fix his username)

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wow SGI INDY
by seabasstin on Wed 17th Aug 2005 21:59 UTC
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doods , kind of unrelated but actually related action...

I must be getting old but when I went to Art School, all the 3D animation classes I had where on SGI wait no Silicon Graphics Indy machines in the SillyGraphics lab. (as opposed to the mac labs, or the Video synthetiser lab.
Many a nights where spent cranking out models and what not for class assignments, and getting skills we thought would help in the 'REAL' world.

Here are the specs and history of that machine: http://www.futuretech.blinkenlights.nl/indybyte.html

Maybe its just me but isn't the PSP even more powerful?

man oh man.
crazyness, that machine was insanely expensive compared to other workstations at the time although right around there Microsoft bought Softimage which was the platform we where learning on, and ported it to NT 3.5.1 We actually didn't get any NT machines at school until maybe a year after I left. (This mainly because SGI was one of the Art & Tech depts primary hardware sponsors.)
I think they went with Intergraph NT machines which in the end cost just as much money as the Indy's ($10 000 or so) which is really funny cause a PSP costs $200 or something and is more powerful.
wow..

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WHY NOT RUN IRIX.
IRIX was made for this chip.
Then you could run Softimage on the PSP instead of stupid games, and then you will get all these 9 year olds making all these phat games & animated films, and then the world will be a better place cause they will be expressing their misplaced anger and violence into a creative endevor at the same time no one would play games anymore cause everyone would be making animated films and Sony would be happy cause everyone would be buying a 100 PSPs and using them in renderfarms.
Man could you imagine 100 node PSP beowulf clusters would be the norm.
wait a sec though can you connect to infiniband over 802.11x?
if that works then we are set.
shmood right?

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