Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 09:35 UTC, submitted by shaen
ReactOS ReactOS 0.2.7 has been released. The ReactOS homepage hasn't been updated yet to reflect the release, but you can download it from their SourceForge page. You can get a live-CD, install CD and a Qemu-image. Update: screenshots.
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Changelog
by Phil on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 10:03 UTC
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RE: Changelog
by evert on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 11:07 UTC in reply to "Changelog"
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Thanks for the link. because it's very slow at the moment, i've copied and pasted the first part:

Overview

With the release of 0.2.7 we, the ReactOS Team, have once again gained further compatibility with Microsoft Windows. We have aligned our headers with those of the Windows SDK which gives us a greater range of driver compatibility. We have also kept ourselves compliant with the latest GCC compiler which with our new build system provides a faster and more efficient building processing. We have elected a new UI coordinator and work has begun to redo the interfaces seen by the user. Many of our advancements aren't obvious to the end user, but rest assured that the inter workings are coming together with work in USB, Plug and Play, and networking that will blow you away in our next release.

Main 0.2.7 Changes

Header clean up to compatible Windows SDK headers. Implemented and used NDK. ReactOS is now built with our own headers. Alex Ionescu, Filip Navara, Steven Edwards
New My computer, Command Prompt, and Logo Icons. Mindflyer
New build system called rbuild. Based on xml, it allows for auto generated makefiles. Casper Hornstup
Improved appearance of the first stage installer. Alex Ionescu
GCC 4.x.x build fixes. Thomas Weidenmueller, Alex Ionescu

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Drivers, better Network in update!?! :)
by Anonymous on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 10:16 UTC
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Sounds like the next release should have some sort of USB support, and from the sounds of it, MUCH improved networking, so perhaps it will go on-line?
And to think this is also ported to the XBOX.

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ReactOs
by Dr Fred on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 11:22 UTC
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Hi,

I am reactos commiter. So here is some info. The side is really slow right now, I hope that it is only overload and not been creacked again.

This release is mainly bug fixes, after the last really buggy release. We also got a nwe build system and new headers, but that is nothing a users are intersted in I guess. Furthermore there is a big optimization, the DIB engine (that is responceble for drawing) is now faster as XP's. You can surf the internet (via network not modem, as you already could with 0.2.6) but you have to install a mozilla control to use ibrowser. I don't remember the url. I have no idea why it is not preinstalled.

I also recommand you to set the resolution higher, that makes it look much nicer. You can get programs on the c.img file using vdk under windows. Yes, that with the X-Box port is true. And yes the next release will have USB, and 100% network support on all hardware.

Sorry for the spelling
Maarten Bosma, who hopes that osnews has a editing function.

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Security
by Anonymous on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 11:33 UTC
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is react05 more secure than Windoze??

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RE: Security
by Dr Fred on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 11:43 UTC in reply to "Security"
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Reactos is not yet ready enough to worry about that.

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watching with interest.....
by Anonymous on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 11:38 UTC
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I'm watching Reactos's progress with great interest. Given the above, I will probably wait until the next release before I try it, though.

I wonder whether Reactos should use a different shell to explorer, such as blackbox, bblean or litestep. The explorer interface, though familiar is getting quite tired now.

just a thought.

Best wishes to the Reactos team.

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RE: watching with interest.....
by Dr Fred on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 11:45 UTC in reply to "watching with interest....."
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"I'm watching Reactos's progress with great interest. Given the above, I will probably wait until the next release before I try it, though."
Yes Reactos is not useble as everyday Os yet.

"I wonder whether Reactos should use a different shell to explorer, such as blackbox, bblean or litestep. The explorer interface, though familiar is getting quite tired now."
Reactos wants to offer a familar interface to the windows users, but user can still install a different gui.

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RE: watching with interest.....
by lrdeclpse on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 14:07 UTC in reply to "watching with interest....."
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I say delete explorer completely and go back to SHELL="progman.exe" - Oh yeah!

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RE[2]: watching with interest.....
by cilcoder on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 15:50 UTC in reply to "RE: watching with interest....."
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Actually if I'm not mistaken, the shell is set via the registery ala NT, so that wouldn't work. :-P

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It's still a SHELL setting, but you are right it isn't in an .ini in NT, it's at location:

HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftwareMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionWinlogon

for User only change. There is a different key to make the change global.

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UI designers could go wild...
by jdrake on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 11:46 UTC
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With a relatively evolving operating system, a group of programmers and UI designers could create an innovative system. There are a couple choices these days.

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explorer
by Anonymous on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 11:46 UTC
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ReactOS Explorer is quite good, but you're right its design is quite old.
They should modernize ROS Explorer, make it a bit more eyecandy

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RE: explorer
by Soulbender on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 12:04 UTC in reply to "explorer"
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Or just focus on getting a usable system before implementing superficial eyecandy....

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RE[2]: explorer
by Anonymous on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 16:15 UTC in reply to "RE: explorer"
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screw eye candy.. one thing most UIs DONT need. bubbly glitz shit that clutters up everything and slows it down.

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v RE: explorer
by Anonymous on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 17:04 UTC in reply to "explorer"
ReactOS Yaaaay!
by Anonymous on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 12:04 UTC
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Someday I can use it as a preinstall environment for Windows.
Someday I can install it with open source software as an alternative for Grandma.
I think ReactOS is the real Genuine Advantage ;) Can't wait!

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Question
by Lazarus on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 12:05 UTC
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Does this release fix the problem that the last one had where both the install CD and the LiveCD barfed on loading cdrom.sys? It wasn't a huge problem as you could just format the disk and then copy over the files, but still ;^)

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RE: Question
by navaraf on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 12:16 UTC in reply to "Question"
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I don't remember such problem to be ever reported and I never encountered it myself. A more detailed description of the problem would help (incl. HW configuration).

Filip Navara, ReactOS Development Team

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Oh yeah?
by RedIcculus on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 12:29 UTC
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But does it play Quake III?

Seriously though, I love what you guys are doing. I can never wait for the next release!

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RE: Oh yeah?
by Dr Fred on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 12:55 UTC in reply to "Oh yeah?"
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I think noone tried Quake III yet BUT I should run, because it is a OpenGL game.

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v RE: Oh yeah?
by Anonymous on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 14:42 UTC in reply to "Oh yeah?"
RE: Oh yeah?
by Anonymous on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 17:55 UTC in reply to "Oh yeah?"
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Not yet, only Quake and Quake 2

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Web Site
by Anonymous on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 12:46 UTC
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Will this release be announced on the ReactOS web page (www.reactos.com)? What is the status of the ReactOS forum?

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RE: Web Site
by Dr Fred on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 12:59 UTC in reply to "Web Site"
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"Will this release be announced on the ReactOS web page (www.reactos.com)?"
Yes

"What is the status of the ReactOS forum?"
The forum was the source of the hack which made reactos.com down for so long, this is why it has not been restored from the backup. I do not know when it will be up again, but I guess together with the new webside in ~2 weeks.

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Thumbs up!
by MattGS on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 13:35 UTC
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I think this has great potential - even though a project like this is bound to raise serious philosophical (or is it ideological?) questions. Might something like ReactOS possibly in some way back Microsoft's monopoly by having developers rely on Microsoft technology? It probably does. Personally, I don't care very much - ReactOS would give developers (and users!) still lots of freedom. Reminds me of the old days where MS-DOS, DR-DOS, PTS-DOS and what not coexisted more or less happily and allowed users the freedom of choice with the best possible compatibility. I just hope there'll never be any legal problems - SCO comes to mind.

Thank you guys for your work so far!

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Website
by Anonymous on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 15:29 UTC
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It's been over two weeks since the voting on the new website began. the mailing lists says 2 weeks, what happened?

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RE: Website
by GvG_ on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 16:16 UTC in reply to "Website"
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Voting was concluded (see http://reactos.com:8080/archives/public/ros-dev/2005-August/004594....
for the results). Work is now underway to implement this.

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A source of investment.
by Anonymous on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 15:31 UTC
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React OS marketing people, if any, should be calling Test equipment manufacturers and informing them about their design goals of 100% WinNT compatibility. Lots of these guys might be interested in throwing a few dollars your way to help with development, which would intern, increase the life expectancy of their systems and or products.

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Interesting...
by TBPrince on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 16:01 UTC
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I'm following with much interest ReactOS. My question is: did ROS developers approached anyone at MS to know how far they could go in implementing features?

Oh, BTW, I'm not into systems programming but does anyone know how to help (beside internals programming)?

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ScreenShots
by Anonymous on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 16:01 UTC
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NTFS support needed
by Anonymous on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 16:43 UTC
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With NTFS this os can be as an emergency disk.

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Hey...
by Anonymous on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 16:46 UTC
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...don't forget to keep in mind OSFree too (they really needs help)!

www.osfree.org

osFree project is an atempt to build an OpenSource OS/2 clone

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How can this ever be successful?
by Anonymous on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 18:10 UTC
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My rough estimate would be that Microsoft invested billions of manhours into Windows. How can a small OSS project like ReactOS hope to create something this big?
And even if they succeeded it seems impossible that MS didn't cover their asses by getting dozens of bullet-proof patents that prevent compatible clones.
Sorry, but I think this project has no future by design.

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* "Windows" is at least three different OSes, ReactOS is only implementing one of them.

* It's always easier to implement something if you have a known target. They don't have to make as many design decisions, they can just look at what Microsoft has done.

* ReactOS has the advantage of being able to use lots of existing Free Software -- Wine most notably, but also lots of other stuff like all the development tools, Freetype and Mesa.

* Throwing money or developers on a project isn't a guarantee that you will succeed.

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