Linked by Andrew Youll on Thu 25th Aug 2005 17:24 UTC
In the News After getting approval from shareholders to take over Macromedia, Adobe must now overcome competition worries. Adobe took another step towards completing its takeover of digital media company Macromedia on Wednesday, after both company's shareholders approved the deal.
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by Anonymous on Thu 25th Aug 2005 17:50 UTC
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Has there been any news on if Adobe plans to keep both product lines going? I kind of like a mix of both companies applications, so I'd hate to see Adobe get rid of Freehand or Fireworks and steer users to Illustrator and Photoshop. When Corel purchased JASC they still kept the Paint Shop Pro product along with offering Painter, Corel Draw and PhotoPaint; so, I'm hoping Adobe does the same.

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The end of the line for GOLIVE
by Anonymous on Thu 25th Aug 2005 17:57 UTC
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This horrible product will finally GO DIE....RIP

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by tastytaste on Thu 25th Aug 2005 17:59 UTC
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mmmmmm Adobe Flash

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The glass is half empty
by orestes on Thu 25th Aug 2005 18:07 UTC
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*Waits for Adobe to rape Macromedia's products like they did with Pagemaker*

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hostile take-over
by Anonymous on Thu 25th Aug 2005 18:54 UTC
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Macromedia has effectively died! Macromedia coders/writers, go to Apple!

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This sucks
by Matt Giacomini on Thu 25th Aug 2005 20:28 UTC
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I like photoshop as much as the next guy, but I'm worried that Adobe is going to screw up Flash.

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RE: This sucks
by zombie process on Fri 26th Aug 2005 13:26 UTC in reply to "This sucks"
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Would that even be possible? I like homestar as much as anyone, but seriously, the use of flash these days is becoming increasingly similar to the use of *blink tags* and animated gifs 5 years ago. The mullet and oakleys of the internet.

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RE[2]: This sucks
by Matt Giacomini on Fri 26th Aug 2005 14:43 UTC in reply to "RE: This sucks"
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Yes the media is using flash in ways that piss people off. Flash is on the rise for legit stuff too. Flex, Lazlo, video streaming. Our company even develops internal applications with flash.

If you only reading message boards, cnn, and the onion, then you are never going to see the real uses of flash.

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hmm.
by Anonymous on Thu 25th Aug 2005 21:00 UTC
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i think that if they screw up flash, they will only bring better svg tools.

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RE: hmm.
by Anonymous on Thu 25th Aug 2005 22:26 UTC in reply to "hmm."
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That'd be great, but it's more likely that they'll drop all svg support. Which sounds better for the shareholders: 1. Increasing lock-in with a web platform that has a ~95 install base, and you control both the IDE and the platform.
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2. Muddying that picture with an output format bound to have multiple implementations in both platform and IDE, which means you suddenly have competition at the same time that your IDE becomes harder to write. Not to mention the sub %10 marketshare for the platform.

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RE: hmm.
by Matt Giacomini on Fri 26th Aug 2005 14:44 UTC in reply to "hmm."
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I have worked with both. SVG sucks compaired to flash. I'm sure SVG will be the one that is dropped.

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adobe
by Anonymous on Fri 26th Aug 2005 03:50 UTC
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Terrible news. With the exception of photoshop their software sucks. I'm forced to use their half assed programs on a daily basis in a professional capacity and now with no Macromedia I'm sure things will only get worse.

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MS is in the works of releasing applications that will compete with each of the products that Adobe offers. So to make this a short and sweet post.....

If Adobe doesn't port everything that they have to Apple & Linux they will soon be the next Netscape!

And if they wait untill its too late there will be open-source programs that take the place of the apps that they have.. No matter what anyone here thinks Adobe is about to be put in the MS cross hairs..

All MS needs to do is kill Adobe keep Apple and Linux at 5% market share and they rule this planet...

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"If Adobe doesn't port everything that they have to Apple & Linux they will soon be the next Netscape!

Um, open sourcing their code and having something much better than the parent project spring from it? I don't even understand your troll here - if you're going to troll, at least make some frickin' sense.

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You must be stupid! I never said anything about Open sourcing there code.. I said they need to move to platforms other than good ol M$.. I take it you live in a cave? and you are not aware of the fact that MS plans to have products that compete with just about everything that Adobe has.

Your the Troll here.... A MS shrull at that!

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I hope your kidding
by Anonymous on Fri 26th Aug 2005 11:11 UTC
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"If Adobe doesn't port everything that they have to Apple & Linux they will soon be the next Netscape! "

Come on now, are you really serious.... You do understand that Adobe has the entire design and publishing industry cornered. There is NO REPLACEMENT for photoshop that works in a professional workflow. Yes, there is GIMP, but I don't see designers leaving in droves to use it. Why? Because Photoshop works and everyone else uses it! Microsoft is a very late player in this game, and they will need a very impressive suite to compete!

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RE: I hope your kidding
by noamsml on Fri 26th Aug 2005 11:25 UTC in reply to "I hope your kidding"
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A. I heard acrylic combines vector graphics with bitmaps. I havn't tried the real thing, but that sounds pretty impressive

B. What if Acrylic comes "free" with windows?

C.Hes not talking only about acrylic. There has also been a new product called metro that will be a basic part of windows vista. Metro is basically a PDF killer, and since it's part of the OS, it immediately has enough of a userbase to create documents for.

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RE[2]: I hope your kidding
by Matt Giacomini on Fri 26th Aug 2005 14:48 UTC in reply to "RE: I hope your kidding"
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You should give Acrylic a try. It is quite crap. I was very very very underwhelmed. I don't see it as being a photoshop replacement at all.

Face it, besides Windows and Office, Microsoft sucks at everything they touch.

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RE[3]: I hope your kidding
by Anonymous on Fri 26th Aug 2005 15:13 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: I hope your kidding"
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Face it, besides Windows and Office, Microsoft sucks at everything they touch.

Let's make that Windows and Word. Oh, and vendor lock-in.

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DTP used to be more exciting in the past
by mario on Fri 26th Aug 2005 17:06 UTC
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Once upon a time, there were companies like Aldus, Ventura, Quark, Corel and many others.

They all had interesting and diverse products for desktop publishing, long before Windows came to be mainstream (Windows 286 and such I don't consider mainstream).

Now, they have either collapsed, bought/merged or just became Real Bad Guys and generally changed drastically their image and mission. And the number of really interesting products has shrunk since then.

Another sign of the times: Corel, with the portfolio of products it has under it's belt, should be a powerhouse - but it isn't. That's truly sad. Iblame it on MS and the skewed market mechanics that allowed it.

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it's like a tv with only 1 station, and that station plays nothing but infomercials 24/7 and there's no "off" switch.

and macromedia has nothing else. why adobe would want to buy this garbage company is unreal. poor move.

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