Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 17th Sep 2005 17:00 UTC
Mandriva, Mandrake, Lycoris Mandriva Linux 2006 RC2 has been released. You can read the release notes here, download locations are underneath the release notes. This will be the last RC before 2006 goes final.
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confusion!
by ankitmalik on Sat 17th Sep 2005 17:37 UTC
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this adds another confusion for me!

I have been unsuccessfully running vector linux after running ubuntu successfully for a year and wanting to change to a good distro again. [didnt like vector really] Confused among

*Foresight
*SUPER [Suse Schumacher !]
* Ubuntu
* Kubuntu

and now
* Mandriva Linux 2006

Cant decide among Foresight's Mono delights / SUPER's speed / Ubuntu/Kubuntu euphoria/support and now Mandriva's MCC !

Someone help!

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RE: confusion!
by archiesteel on Sat 17th Sep 2005 19:24 UTC in reply to "confusion!"
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2005-07-02

Go for Mandriva, it has a better menu structure than Kubuntu (which I love too, don't get me wrong), good GUI tools (as you've mentioned) and the SMART package manager which is miles ahead of RPMdrake.

Also, they've lost the psychedelic penguin wallpaper and replaced it with a very classy one. :-)

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RE: confusion!
by Anonymous Penguin on Sun 18th Sep 2005 01:09 UTC in reply to "confusion!"
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Another vote for Mandriva.
Especially stay away from SUSE 10.0: up to RC1 it is as buggy as hell.

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RE[2]: confusion!
by ankitmalik on Sun 18th Sep 2005 04:15 UTC in reply to "confusion!"
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Does multimedia support exist Out of the box in Mandriva? If no, is it easy to setup multimedia support?

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Host or guest under VMware 5 or 5.5Beta?
by Anonymous on Sat 17th Sep 2005 17:43 UTC
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Anyone tried Mandriva Linux 2006 RC2 as a host or guest with VMware 5 or 5.5Beta yet?

If so, please comment.

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2005-07-09

yep tried under vmware 5 on linux host... installed fine while using IDE but wouldn't boot after installation under scsi... (kernel panic try putting init=...) but fine as I say under IDE everything seemed to work fine


Alie

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Same here under 5.5. SCSI does not boot after install.

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lucianpb
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2005-09-17

Been running it ever since beta1, incredibly stable if we try to remember betas from 9.0 for example. LE2005 was a good distro, but 2006 will be excelent. I'm overwhelmed by its speed, new look and features and the immense number of packages you get from the official mirrors.

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Yeah, I've been using 10.2 w/ VMware 5 both as host and guest (under W2K Pro) on a little Thinkpad T20 (700Mhz, PIII, 512MB RAM, 80GB 5400RPM disk) w/ no problems yet.

Thanx for reply.

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I'm overwhelmed by its speed

Yep, I've found that aswell - after disabling a range of un-necessary services, 2006 comfortably boot's up in a similar time to my Gentoo and Arch systems (it's considerably quicker than my Debian and Ubuntu systems) - in addition, the desktop's snappier than ever - all in all 2006 is shaping up well.

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I'm running mandrake 10.1 x86-64 on a opteron 64 bit with vwmare 5.5.

Mandriva 2006 RC2 will crash during the boot process ;)

It installed correctly but it wont come up at first boot.

Kernel panic with no root devices anv vmware top at 99% cpu usage until a kill the job:(

Any clue on this.

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Salivating
by Anonymous on Sat 17th Sep 2005 21:23 UTC
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Cant wait till its finally released.BAM!!! onto my file server.

*currently running Mandrake 10.

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DVD ISO
by Celerate on Sat 17th Sep 2005 22:01 UTC
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2005-06-29

It seems the DVD version is only available to club members, also there doesn't seem to be a torrent mentioned on that page. It's too bad Mandriva's option for the poor has to be a really stripped down version; I don't have my job any more and as such can't afford a club membership, I'm also not a good enough developer to get a club membership through contributions :-p .

I would like to get a boxed set when it's released, although I would preffer being able to buy it locally rather than having to order from a ordering centre two provinces away. Perhaps I could start my own Linux shop/ordering centre here when I finally graduate :-) .

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RE: DVD ISO
by Anonymous on Sat 17th Sep 2005 22:36 UTC in reply to "DVD ISO"
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It's too bad Mandriva's option for the poor has to be a really stripped down version; I don't have my job any more and as such can't afford a club membership, I'm also not a good enough developer to get a club membership through contributions :-p

I take it that's said in humour mate ;) ? For anyone who's not aware, Mandriva's always produced an excellent FREE downloadable version of it's distribution - Further, when 2006 is released, there will be a reasonably fully featured 3-CD version of it for FREE download.

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release date ??
by Anonymous on Sat 17th Sep 2005 22:03 UTC
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when will Mandriva 2006 be officially released and ready to buy on their site ?

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DVD / CD
by AdamW on Sat 17th Sep 2005 22:39 UTC
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2005-07-06

There will be a DVD version of the final Free edition (with the exact same contents as the 3xCD version). There's also several scripts available around MDV community sites which convert a set of CD isos into a DVD iso.

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Mandriva 2006...
by Anonymous Penguin on Sun 18th Sep 2005 01:04 UTC
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2005-07-06

Very nice. Everything automatically configured, including my SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit.

Only one problem: I can't for the life of me configure pppoe.

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hang ups in vmware 5
by Anonymous on Sun 18th Sep 2005 04:32 UTC
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I'm using vmware 5 on Mandriva 2005 and just like Mandriva 2006 RC1, after installation, it hangs up after LILO and does nothing.

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ankit:
by AdamW on Sun 18th Sep 2005 08:37 UTC
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what do you mean by 'multimedia'?

MP3 playback works out of the box. so do freely supportable video codecs. AACs, RealVideo and Windows Media obviously aren't going to work right away, though. there's a package source called PLF which provides additional packages with such licensing problems.

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stay away from SUSE 10.0
by Anonymous on Sun 18th Sep 2005 09:15 UTC
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disagreed, SUSE has always been an excellent distro.

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RE: stay away from SUSE 10.0
by Anonymous on Sun 18th Sep 2005 09:23 UTC in reply to "stay away from SUSE 10.0"
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I think one should not compare these two distros as both are release candidates. The meaningful comparison can only be made after they are officially released.

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RE: stay away from SUSE 10.0
by Anonymous Penguin on Sun 18th Sep 2005 11:36 UTC in reply to "stay away from SUSE 10.0"
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I don't deny that. All I said is:

"SUSE 10.0: up to RC1 it is as buggy as hell."

Which means that hopefully by the final release it could be good.

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Mandriva rocks
by Anonymous on Sun 18th Sep 2005 11:35 UTC
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Even more so with the PLF sources.

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How's the package selection?
by Anonymous on Sun 18th Sep 2005 12:44 UTC
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How many packages are available for Mandriva if you enable the official sources and popular unoffical repositories, compared to something like Ubuntu or Debian? I am getting increasingly frustrated with several issues that Ubuntu has, but their selection of binary packages is what has kept me using it. With all of the Ubuntu universe and backports, I have almost 17,000 available packages in Synaptic. And many of the "obscure programs" I often need. Thanks!

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Anonymous Penguin Member since:
2005-07-06

I haven't been able to try it with Mandriva 2006 RC2 because, as I said, I can't make pppoe work, but traditionally, once you add all the available sources with EASY URPMI, you have something like 8,000/10.000 packages available:

http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/

Please notice that in Debian/Ubuntu it feels as if you get a lot more because many packages are in fact libraries or data, which in rpm distros are already included in the main package.

However if you still want "the Debian experience", why not go with something else, like Kanotix: guaranteed trouble-free. Just wait a couple of days for 2005-04.

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RE: How's the package selection?
by AdamW on Sun 18th Sep 2005 19:11 UTC in reply to "How's the package selection?"
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There are 4,187 packages in main (the supported repository). There's 7,055 in contrib (which is an official repository, provided by MDV and built on the MDV build cluster, but which does not get security support). There aren't any large third party repositories for MDV because it's relatively easy to get a package in contrib, but PLF (which contains packages with legal, licensing or patent issues) has 662. Total for the three is 11,904. We split packages more than Fedora but (I think) less than Debian; MDV packaging policy is to split libs from binaries wherever possible and to split devel files into a separate libfoo-devel package.

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RE: How's the package selection?
by garret on Sun 18th Sep 2005 14:49 UTC
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As far as I have seen, Mandriva is second only to Debian itself in the number of packages available.

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Re: RE: How's the package selection?
by lucianpb on Sun 18th Sep 2005 17:42 UTC
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The distros that i know have more packages than Mandriva is Gentoo and FreeBSD (well, FreeBSD is not quite a linux distro, i know). But, for example, take this:
urpmq -y MySQL
MySQL
MySQL-Max
MySQL-NDB
MySQL-bench
MySQL-client
MySQL-common
MySQL-python
MySQL40
MySQL40-Max
MySQL40-bench
MySQL40-client
MySQL40-common
MySQL50
MySQL50-Max
MySQL50-bench
MySQL50-client
MySQL50-common
MySQL50-ndb-extra
MySQL50-ndb-management
MySQL50-ndb-storage
MySQL50-ndb-tools
ZMySQLDA

First time i saw something like that i said "whooow!", you cant find anything like this on any other binary based distribution. Mysql 4.0, 4.1 and 5.0 all at a urpmi away. You may also want to check up all the apache modules Mandriva has got up for you - this is huge.

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RE: How's the package selection?
by Anonymous on Sun 18th Sep 2005 20:14 UTC
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I often look on rpm.pbone.net, and they almost always have a MDK RPM for whatever I'm looking for, but it's not in an apt or urpmi repository so that it can be installed with all dependancies. Now I wonder if it's possible to add such directories as a SMART channel? SMART claims to be able to work with non-indexed directories of RPM's. Not sure if it can look recursively into sub-dirs, i.e. devel, contrib, i586, i686, whatever. Anyone know if that's possible? Thanks.

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RE[2]: How's the package selection?
by AdamW on Mon 19th Sep 2005 05:54 UTC in reply to "RE: How's the package selection?"
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AFAIK, all the Mandriva sources that pbone searches are set up to be urpmi media. What can you find on pbone that you can't find by adding sources through easyurpmi?

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Huge pkg lists?
by Anonymous on Mon 19th Sep 2005 13:38 UTC
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I read somewhere about urpmi downloading MASSIVE (30MB!!) package lists. Is this true? Is there a method that trims lists? I'm a dialup user. :-(

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