Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 18th Sep 2005 12:25 UTC, submitted by skx2
Debian and its clones "Every now and again I like to spend a while becoming really familiar with the various tools which I use frequently. This week I spent several hours experimenting with the various paging applications available to Debian users. Here is my guide to the common pagers, and what they can do."
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less
by monkeyhead on Sun 18th Sep 2005 15:25 UTC
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I'm personally a fan of less. I always hated that with more you can't scroll backwards. Less is very handy for viewing documentation since a lot of times you need to skip around.

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RE: less
by ma_d on Mon 19th Sep 2005 13:10 UTC in reply to "less"
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2005-06-29

Well .... less is more.

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color!
by Anonymous on Sun 18th Sep 2005 15:59 UTC
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color manpages? use most.

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lessfile!
by Anonymous on Sun 18th Sep 2005 19:11 UTC
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cool! I didn't know about lessfile. This is a great way to get around the debian way of putting readme's in gzs!

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**lookat**
by Anonymous on Sun 18th Sep 2005 19:15 UTC
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port/package LOOKAT, made my default
manpage viewer (bsd),
s= search
g- goto line
q= quit
(imho way more comfortable)

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About vim
by boily on Sun 18th Sep 2005 21:36 UTC
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2005-06-30

Personnally, I like vim. It's quick, efficient (althought we can argue on this), and has colors too.

I'm eager to download vim 7 and try it.

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RE: About vim
by butters on Mon 19th Sep 2005 06:49 UTC in reply to "About vim"
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2005-07-08

I would tend to agree... Vim takes a tiny bit longer to load a long file than less, but it's so much more powerful, even if the input file is read-only. Line seeking isn't very accurate in less, for some reason, and browsing source code is so much faster in vim.

Basically, I use these rules:

If there's even a chance that I might want to edit a file, I'll view it in vim.

If the file is source code, I always use vim.

If it's a long log file, I tend to use less.

I think that less should be more vim-like. It should be like vim, stuck in permanent command mode. All vim commands should work in less, and it should read your .vimrc file (mostly for syntax highlighting and keybindings).

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RE[2]: About vim
by butters on Mon 19th Sep 2005 06:54 UTC in reply to "RE: About vim"
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2005-07-08

Oh, and vim has optional cscope support. For those who don't know what I'm talking about, it basically turns vim into a hypertext code editor, where keywords are linked back to their definitions. I can't express in words how useful this is.

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RE[3]: About vim
by rcsteiner on Mon 19th Sep 2005 16:17 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: About vim"
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2005-07-12

Cscope is a very useful tool -- it's roughly similar to the IACULL source code indexing/search tool that I'm used to in the Unisys mainframe world.

I found it ironic that a mainframer like myself had to fight to get cscope installed on the development server when I first started to do Solaris development at a former place of employment. I thought UNIX people were supposed to be trendy types, and yet I encountered more NIH syndrome and fewer open minds in the distributed group than I did on the mainframe side of life. Most of the UNIX folks said to just use grep and forget about it, but it isn't the same thing at all...

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Other pagers
by Anonymous on Sun 18th Sep 2005 22:27 UTC
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Ive also found w3m and links2 to be good pagers for local files.

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