Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 25th Sep 2005 12:13 UTC, submitted by Falko Timme
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu "This is a detailed description about the steps to be taken to setup a Ubuntu based server (Ubuntu 5.0.4 - The Hoary Hedgehog) that offers all services needed by ISPs and hosters (web server (SSL-capable), mail server (with SMTP-AUTH and TLS), DNS server, FTP server, MySQL server, POP3/POP3s/IMAP/IMAPs, Quota, Firewall, etc.)."
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all this is good but.
by anshu on Sun 25th Sep 2005 14:16 UTC
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well. instead of run down of setting packages using source/rpm's/deb files. we all wud benifit by a comparision of load testing on all the big bulls (i.e :- Redhat-fedor , Suse , Debian, and child distros like Ubuntu-kubuntu.


(well why dont i do it the.... well then "I" might do it then.... well ok. I will wait for it.)

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Err...
by Anonymous on Sun 25th Sep 2005 14:33 UTC
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Ubuntu 5.0.4 - The Hoary Hedgehog

Actually, it's Ubuntu 5.4.

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RE: Err...
by ckknight on Sun 25th Sep 2005 14:40 UTC in reply to "Err..."
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No, it's actually Ubuntu 5.04.
You can see it on the website: http://ubuntulinux.org/

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Ubuntu Servers
by Anonymous on Sun 25th Sep 2005 14:47 UTC
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We have several server's that run Warty and Hoary. Great uptime and stability. Not really surprising considering Ubuntu's Debian root's. Its nice to have a little conformity from server to desktop as we have a small number of public use Desktop's that run Ubuntu also.

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Your own server
by Emil on Sun 25th Sep 2005 16:46 UTC
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This is actually a fine read for people who has no server experience. It encurages them to try Ubuntu on both Desktop and server. I'm running one server on Ubuntu, and I love it. Security updates are server ASAP, applications just runs forever. :-)

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This is the worst HOWTO I ever read. There is NO explanation what this setup will create NOR is it secure or suitable other than for kids to play on their homeboxen. Postfix has not disabled plaintext without ssl so every client pointing to server:25 and not issuing STARTTLS will get transmit passwords in cleartext. Did I hear ISP? Where is virtual domain support? Are you supposed to have all your mailaccounts in /etc/passwd. What is that Apache setup meant for? Disabling PHP and running php scripts as CGI with Suexec? Ever heard of suphp?

forget it

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Cool, why don't you write a HOWTO and post it here the way you think it should be written? We would all benefit greatly from it!

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Typical opensource argument. Just because the government doesn't behave the way you want to, you don't run for office, do you?

You're perfectly entitled to have an opinion that something is bad, even if you're not able to do it better yourself.

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So you opensource argument is basically that your whining is more important than anyone elses contributions.

The article was okay, especially for someone who has yet to experience the full horror of the debian config tools. I generally just edit the config files.

As for sending peoples passwds in cleartext, so what. Normal POP3, FTP etc do that. You make it out as some big deal. So its not the most secure thing on the planet. However most clients run Windows, so generally thats the major weakpoint anyways. Should he setup Postfix to check the version of Windows you are running? Perhaps checking if you have malware prevention tools installed as well. Require the client to jump through hoops and use webmail over SSL instead?

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Yea...you write a HowTo..Really. We'd all like to partake of your brilliant contribution to the world.
-nX

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Seems you have not read the whole howto, otherwise you might have understood that PHP was disabled globally to have these settings managed by ISPConfig

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ISPConfig
by Anonymous on Mon 26th Sep 2005 01:09 UTC
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This is a tutorial for setting Ubuntu to make it ready for ISPConfig: http://www.ispconfig.org/

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What's the point?
by zombie process on Mon 26th Sep 2005 05:04 UTC
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I like ubuntu as much as the next guy, but I really fail to see the point of bending it into a server. If I really wanted an ubuntu-like server, I'd run debian proper. It makes far more sense, IMO.

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RE: What's the point?
by jessta on Mon 26th Sep 2005 06:33 UTC in reply to "What's the point?"
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2005-08-17

Agreed.
Ubuntu development has had a lot of focus on the desktop side of things. I don't see it as a good choice for a server being that it is based on debian's unstable branch.

Servers (unless they are a server for x terminals) should not be running xorg and ubuntu (as far as I've seen) doesn't come with any great text mode config tools.

- Jesse McNelis

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RE[2]: What's the point?
by adriandeleon on Mon 26th Sep 2005 14:59 UTC in reply to "RE: What's the point?"
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You can use the 'server' option to install Ubuntu with a minimal package setup (no X11, Gnome, etc).

>doesn't come with any great text mode config tools.

vi comes installed by default ;-P

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Who need this ?
by Anonymous on Mon 26th Sep 2005 07:44 UTC
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In conclusions: Ubuntu is good OS. For beginners.

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RE: Who need this ?
by Anonymous on Mon 26th Sep 2005 07:59 UTC in reply to "Who need this ?"
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For beginners? I've used linux since around 1999, including slackware for a couple years, gentoo, debian, linuxfromscratch... and I use Ubuntu. It's actually the only linux aimed for desktop use that I can tolerate.

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More tutorials for servers?
by Walter on Mon 26th Sep 2005 13:13 UTC
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2005-07-12

Why is Ubuntu the only distro highlighted here? This could just as well be some info on ISPConfig (mentioned by some others).
More howto's for ISPConfig:
http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_debian_sarge (Debian)
http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_fedora_core_4 (fedora)
http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_mandrake_10_2 (Mandrake/Mandriva)
http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_suse_10.0 (SuSE 10)
http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_suse_9.3 (SuSE 9.3)

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Ubuntu ignores servers
by Anonymous on Tue 27th Sep 2005 18:01 UTC
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Try installing Ubuntu server using non-English locale. You end up with an UTF-8 system whose most important commandline tools (eg. dselect, mc, ...) are unusable due to missing UTF-8 support. See http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5517

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