Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 3rd Oct 2005 14:49 UTC, submitted by Emil
Apple In a serious case of I-have-too-much-time-on-my-hands, someone "ported" Mac OS 7.5.5 to the... Sony PSP. It required a few tricks, but in the end you can have an x86 emulator running a 680x0 emulator on a handheld gaming console.
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It's not ported
by Anonymous on Mon 3rd Oct 2005 15:05 UTC
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Hello? It's just running in an emulator in an emulator.

Nothing to see here.

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RE: It's not ported
by Ben2040 on Mon 3rd Oct 2005 15:44 UTC in reply to "It's not ported"
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It's just running in an emulator in an emulator.

Well then isn't that something to see?

Ben

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Port?
by Anonymous on Mon 3rd Oct 2005 15:12 UTC
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In what fashion does this constitue a port of Mac OS 7.5.5?!? It is fairly clear from reading the article that this is simply emulation of Mac compatible hardware environment on the PSP. Mac OS 7.5.5 was not PORTED to run on a PSP hardware as the title of posting on OSNEWS suggests. The only porting involved was that of Bochs to the PSP.

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RE: Port?
by Anonymous on Mon 3rd Oct 2005 15:46 UTC in reply to "Port?"
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Thats why it says "ported" with qoutes. Although I do agree that this is reall no where near porting.

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RE[2]: Port?
by Andrew Youll on Mon 3rd Oct 2005 16:22 UTC in reply to "RE: Port?"
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actually the story synopsis and title was edited when i informed thom of the error, the original title read: "Mac OS 7.5.5 Ported to PSP"

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Hmmm....
by Andrew Youll on Mon 3rd Oct 2005 15:13 UTC
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Yeah how does this constitute a port? Also 4hrs to boot? this is very useful lol

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Slow ...
by Anonymous on Mon 3rd Oct 2005 15:28 UTC
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I know that this is emulation of emulation, but 4 hours to boot? Even people who installed extensions galore would have a hard time getting 7.5.5 to boot in over five minutes on a 68k.

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by Anonymous on Mon 3rd Oct 2005 15:47 UTC
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Why was the word "ported" even used in the description?

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Wow
by Smartpatrol on Mon 3rd Oct 2005 16:07 UTC
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What an incredible waste of time! Imagine if the effort applied to this inane endeavour was applied to something useful.

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RE: Wow
by sanders on Tue 4th Oct 2005 07:43 UTC in reply to "Wow"
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Such as climbing a mountain? Drinking a beer?

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Why did he go via Bochs?
by nimble on Mon 3rd Oct 2005 16:12 UTC
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He could have avoided the double processor emulation by using Shapeshifter on a UAE-emulated Amiga:

http://www.kaillera.com/pspuae/

But then you might as well just stick with the Amiga games and forget about Mac ;)

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Port or not....
by AdrianRyan on Mon 3rd Oct 2005 16:19 UTC
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I think this is Damn Cool. The guy did it in one day! Now if anyone can get OS 9 to run, and faster than this, the world might actually see a good PDA for once.

Or, if you could port OS 9 to the Game Boy DS, that way you could use a stylus for typing and mousing on the bottom screen...

One of these days, something like that will happen, I hope.

PS I'm no Mac zealot, I just know that the layout of OS 9 and older Mac OS's would work better for the small screen than current Windows/OSX.

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RE: Port or not....
by Anonymous on Tue 4th Oct 2005 02:01 UTC in reply to "Port or not...."
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mabey not cool, but certainly funny and amusing.

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Coming up next
by Anonymous on Mon 3rd Oct 2005 16:25 UTC
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How I emulated VMS on my Atari TT!

How I emulated RISC OS on my Amstrad Mega PC!

How I emulated QNX on my VAX!

This isn't much of a story. Given enough CPU cycles, almost any machine can emulate almost any machine. You could emulate OS X (via PearPC) on an Amiga if you were willing to use your whole hard drive as virtual memory and wait two weeks to boot it.

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adrian:
by AdamW on Mon 3rd Oct 2005 16:26 UTC
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I beg to differ. The PSP will never make a good PDA, because it doesn't have a touch screen. You can't control a PDA with an analog stick designed for games, a digital directional pad, and six buttons. It's just not the right interface.

In _theory_, I agree with this guy's rant about being allowed to do anything you like with the system. In _practice_, I'm never likely to bother using my PSP as anything apart from a games machine and emergency MP3 player, because it's not the right design for doing anything else.

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amazing
by Anonymous on Mon 3rd Oct 2005 16:43 UTC
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amazing to see so many people with so little sense of humor and such an easy trigger when it comes to bashing other people.

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RE: amazing
by Anonymous on Mon 3rd Oct 2005 19:16 UTC in reply to "amazing"
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indeed, this site is full of people with no sense of humour. here is a list I have compiled.

CPUGuy
Varg Verkness
Sappyvvc
Raver31
Darkstar
Lazarus

I sure you could all add some more to the list

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If only people...
by mini-me on Mon 3rd Oct 2005 17:04 UTC
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...would use their creative energy for something useful - we would all be better off. On the other hand, the individual might have wanted to play Marathon on his/her PSP :p

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good thing it wasn't 7.5.3
by doug on Mon 3rd Oct 2005 17:08 UTC
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That was the buggiest OS version Apple ever released. I still remember all the problems it had even though it was like 10 years ago.

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can someone...
by Anonymous on Mon 3rd Oct 2005 17:38 UTC
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please port OpenStep to run on my cell phone?

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Cooler than windows Vista beta 1
by Anonymous on Mon 3rd Oct 2005 17:52 UTC
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Wow thats cooler and more useful than windows Vista beta one.

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To be sure, but Vista will sell more copies. Must keep those IT types fully employed and busy, after all.

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Fun
by Anonymous on Mon 3rd Oct 2005 19:00 UTC
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It's not really a waste of time. Like her page says, a PSP is for playing, and for her this was fun, and it took less than a day of effort after getting the PSP. I say it was all worth it just to show it can be done!

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our Kvlt members
by stormloss on Mon 3rd Oct 2005 20:52 UTC
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Anonymous (IP: 62.254.32.---) said:
indeed, this site is full of people with no sense of humour. here is a list I have compiled.

CPUGuy
Varg Verkness
Sappyvvc
Raver31
Darkstar
Lazarus


oohwww Ist Krieg! The Uber dark goat lover members running Slackware 666 on there dark Church burnt PSP's yes very Kvlt.

Evil very evil, they can't crack a smile as the corpe paint may crack, be very scared cos I am, they may stab your PSP's screen ;)

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lusers, listen...
by Anonymous on Mon 3rd Oct 2005 23:58 UTC
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First, this is a chick who likes hacking on hardware. 500 points and a chubby to her right off the bat.

Second, useability is not the goal here. It's something that was possible to do, so she did it. Nobody said she was building nanobots over here. If you don't dig this kind of thing, WTF are you doing here?

Third, ask RMS, Linus, ESR or damn near any geek how useful general hacking around with stuff can be. I for one remember when the linux kernel was dismissed out of hand for it's immaturity and impracticality. A big STFU from all of them to all of you who feel there's "nothing to see here..."

/dicks.

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Hm, sounds like fun!
by pcummins on Tue 4th Oct 2005 02:10 UTC
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I guess the next step is porting Mini vMac or vMac direct to run on the PSP for faster execution times. Maybe I should get one and do it. I've already compiled Mini vMac for the PS2 Linux Kit, no biggy getting that to work...

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Interesting
by Anonymous on Tue 4th Oct 2005 08:40 UTC
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This is kinda cool in a pointless sort of way... these are the sorts of pontlless but fun things I enjoy as well. Sure it may not be particularly useful, but the lady (Im assuming its a lady going by ppls responses) achieved her goal so good luck to her.
I must admit though my 1st thought when I read it was "why not just use shapeshifter under psp uae instead?".. it eliminates the need for emulating the x86 processor,.. very little additional overheads required (shapeshifter works along the lines of virtual pc, etc., but on a lightweight OS like Amiga OS u get to use nigh on all the syetm resources on the "guest(68k)" OS... can even run 680x0 linux,bsd, etc, even if is touted as a Mac emulator).... all of which is a little off track I guess in regards to the topic, but would be intereseting to fool with (for my interests anyway)... in fact u could set up a minimal Amiga OS setup within a few meg and alter the startup sequence to boot straight into Mac OS (or another 680x0 os) making Amiga OS invisable (although Amiga OS itself would be cool as well,... Im just trying to think outside the box).

Anyway Ive rambled enough for now I think,..... Id be interested to hear of any other OSes ppl have got running on these sorts of machines if anyone knows of similar stories

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NOT 4HRs
by Anonymous on Tue 11th Oct 2005 07:20 UTC
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uh dude, i just used it and i took about a minute to boot. idk where you read 4hrs

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