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remember, Microsoft does not care about the quality of their products...

they only care about marketing and hype.

Why don't you ask the people there then. I think that likely 2/3 of the people working at Microsoft genuinely want to build a good product that changes users' lives for the better. However, with shareholders to please, and marketing making engineering decisions, coupled with a couple of management duds (Vista,) Microsoft has shown itself to be capable of releasing sub-par products. Not that all of their products are mind you. Windows 2003 Server, with all of its warts in some areas, has proven to be a reliable, secure operating system.

Additionally, Microsoft employs a strategy where the first release is seen as a marketing and research investment that their deep pockets can suck up in anticipation of making up later. Then, after they have established themselves as a player on the market, they slowly add features and improve their product until suddenly, not necessarily on technical merits, but because their products were designed to work together, they have worked their way into places with existing Microsoft installations (many places.) Then after negotiation, and several shrewd business decisions, they have cemented their hold in a new market.

Apologies in advance for bringing up Linux, but...

This can only be good for Linux, because like it or not, competition drives each to be better. The only things that matter for linux (in the foreseeable future,) are ironing out some of the desktop environment wrinkles (not by sweeping them under the carpet,) and reaching a critical threshold where it is good sense for hardware manufacturers to support their devices running under Linux. The time will come for those two things. Good things are happening in computing nowadays. We just have to make sure we don't let too much bad happen. (I have DRM and patents and the DMCA and similar laws in other countries in mind.)

thebackwash,

Microsoft employees don't call the shots, but I do agree that certain MS business practices can be good for Linux.

However, my point is simple...

I would rather have the OS that runs my workstations and servers be built upon a foundation of solid programing, not marketing.

I think the problem lies in the fact that Microsoft has always had the best and brightest geeks in the past. And they had some great new ideas about how to do things (and I think most of them were obsessed with speed, other than Dave Cutler).
Well, they've learned now where they were wrong *cough* centralized setting storage in a binary format, disparate monolithic architectures like explorer *cough*. But they have to stay compatible...

Where other OS's have built off the successes of the past. Sometimes imitation really isn't a bad thing... You simply can't innovate everything, you're bound to mess up something; so you might as well innovate what you know and imitate what you don't.

...And now let's contrast that to the typical Linux distribution: 4-5 media players, 2-3 browsers, 2-3 e-mail clients, 2 volume control applets, 4 text editors ...



Ah, answering an MS case in _fact_ with some imaginary tosh about what a Linux cluster installation would consist of ...

I don't know anybody that runs a Linux cluster using Ubuntu, Linspire, or Mandriva. Do you?

I read some of your site. You seem to have some knowledge, but every anti-Linux post you place here is neither well thought out nor relevant. It's a shame really.

I don't know anybody that runs a Linux cluster using Ubuntu, Linspire, or Mandriva. Do you?

Well Mandriva offers a clustering version for HPC:

http://www.mandriva.com/clustering

I'm sure it doesn't install 4 different video players though

I really liked your comment about:

"Choice is bad if all the choices are poor" which is quite true about Linux. People are using Windows because they can't find a better Linux distro even though there is *too much* choice in Linux.

A la?
I'd bet the running services list on Win2K3 is four times longer than RHEL4 (and it's the worst on # of services).
So what, pray tell, do you mean by it being more bloated?

Actually, I use XPlite/2000lite.

Linux Is Poo...Gee, its Tom Karpik again.
The well known Linux hater and a writer from Neoseeker.
Another anti-Linux post?...How unsurprising.

Hiding behind the smoke and mirrors of Microsoft related articles again?

Let me guess your theme...
You love Windows and FreeBSD.

BTW, your neoseeker articles SUCK.

It's a pity that every time a Microsoft related article is posted here it always ends up being an excuse to flame Microsoft and sing the praises on Linux. Mind you, anything pro-Linux inevitably attract the "BSD is better" crowd..!

"Linux Is Poo" really does himself no favours. It's a pity he needs to try and hide behind such a stupid username. If you've got an opinion then at least have the courage to put your name to it...

I agree about the flaming. Every single Microsoft article you see people talking trash about MS/Windows no matter what the article is about.

Seems almost any time I view a strictly linux article, there is almost no flaming, and actual discussion.

Of course, linux fans like to deny this, but it's clear to anyone that follows the articles.

nLite is cool but I doubt it's legal to mess with windows install. For sure you will loose support. And besides although it makes removing IE and other components possible it still does nothing to protect you from screwing the system up (beside showing a big fat warning).