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The official release is coming out on Thursday, so just wait 1 week and download that. I don't like Ubuntu myself, but why install it if the offical is only 1 week away.

Because test releases are made so people who want to test the software can do so, and potentially find bugs or problems that will help improve the final release. If you're not one of those people, then stay away from "alpha," "beta," or "RC" software.

Won't you need to change your repositories to Breezy? I mean, they're all set to Hoary now. Unless they're going to somehow have you automatically change the repository names, I don't see how just that would work.

my response was to a post by a fellow who said he may go home and download the breezyRC. when he installs that CD, breezy repositories will be listed for synaptic and apt-get to use. when the final release comes out he does not need to download the iso to burn, he need only use "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" which will likely involve minimal changes after only a week or two between those releases.

but yes, if you are upgrading from hoary you need to find that list of repositories and change all the hoaries to breezies and be prepared for a lot of downloading, hundreds of megs. I think in that case it may be wiser to download the iso and get a clean install and you will have the CD if needed in the future.

javajazz

hehehehe very funny
it is just a pity your sense of humour will not be appreciated around here.

at least it cheered me up

...does anyone know if they changed nautilus to make browser mode default?

Yes, browser mode is the default now.

Aww. You wouldn't happen to know why, would you? Doesn't make much sense with what they're trying to do.

-bytecoder

Well, I can't give you a link to the offical reason or anything but I suspect it is because quite a few people (especially newbies) have grown up using browser mode and spatial can often (not always, but often) be more confusing as opposed to the new browser mode. Plus, spatial doesn't always work well on smaller screens (like laptops for example).

However, keep in mind that these are only mine (and a few others opinions); this is in no way, shape or form the "offical word."

Actually, apt-get dist-upgrade is the preferred option, rather than just apt-get upgrade, as the upgrade option does not deal gracefully with changes in package dependencies, and virtual packages. See the manual for apt-get(8) (emphasis mine):

upgrade
upgrade is used to install the newest versions of all packages currently installed on the system from the sources enumerated in /etc/apt/sources.list. Packages currently installed with new versions available are retrieved and upgraded; under no circumstances are currently installed packages removed, or packages not already installed retrieved and installed. New versions of currently installed packages that cannot be upgraded without changing the install status of another package will be left at their current version [obviously bad for running operating system upgrades]. An update must be performed first so that apt-get knows that new versions of packages are available.

dist-upgrade
dist-upgrade, in addition to performing the function of upgrade, also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages; apt-get has a "smart" conflict resolution system, and it will attempt to upgrade the most important packages at the expense of less important ones if necessary. The /etc/apt/sources.list file contains a list of locations from which to retrieve desired package files.

Obviously, both options have risks; however, I've never had issues running a dist-upgrade myself, and it's the recommended upgrade path by Ubuntu.

thanks. dist-upgrade has that advantage, yes.

Regarding the Breeze. I have been using apt-get or synaptic, depending on where I am, in the cli or gui, when i get the urge to look for the new stuff. I have been carelessly doing this since the spring of '05, every day, sometimes 2 or 3 times a day. every single day there have been updates. XORG has been through several versions, gnome as well (2.11 to 2.12.1). I was even running funny stuff from hoary-extras; java, realplayer10,wn32codecs,libdvd.

MY POINT is that over the months there has not been a major breakage, none. I do have to occasionally relink Xorg to X, after Xorg upgrades. hint-the command "locate" is always ready to show you where things are, on a dime at a moments notice.

do you want XP and the THRILL of hunting down all the odd upgrades to all the software that "windows.update" does not cover or do you like the idea of "synaptic", where every upgrade is available.

Oh and guys can you please make the theme a little browner, like rich chocolate and strong coffee.

Xandros, Linspire, SUSE, Mandriva

(1) Knoppix
(2) Libranet 3.0 -> and has more packages available via apt-get (or synaptic if you are so CLI phobic).

I agree with the first post here. Ubuntu hasn't done anything new other than marketing the distro to utter death. I've tried it, and its "ease of use" came at the expense of package availability and power use.

I agree with the first post here. Ubuntu hasn't done anything new other than marketing the distro to utter death. I've tried it, and its "ease of use" came at the expense of package availability and power use

I'm not sure what that comment means. Most of the marketing has come from the community because they love ubuntu. I agree that they've done a great deal for ease of use, but I think they offer a great deal of packages (just uncomment the sources.list). As far as power use I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. It is still Linux, and it still has all the development packages and software IDEs that I'm used to.

To comment a little further on the software availability, I have never found a binary distro that offers all the packages I want in their repository (that includes Fedora and Debian as well as the other smaller distros). Based on your statement I would assume that you are a fellow software geek. I recently started rolling all my own deb files for the products I need to further extend ubuntu, and I've uploaded them to my own online repository. Next, I'm going to make a metapackage to install all my favorite apps with just one command after I add the repository to my sources.list.

This way installing and keeping multiple machines up to date will be extremely easy -- at least for me

I've tried it, and its "ease of use" came at the expense of package availability and power use.

Which packages are you actually missing and how does Ubuntu limit you as a `power user'?

Setting up ndiswrapper for the BCM4306 is easy. It took me around 5 mins in Breezy using the ndiswrapper package that comes with the distro...

use this page:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto


You have to find your bcmwl5.inf and bcmwl5.sys in your Windows partition and copy them over to your home directory.

You also do not have to compile from source, just follow the directions using the precompiled package that comes with Breezy. Hopefully this helps.

concept10

Hey,

No need to pick on ubuntu :^) If You don't want to use it, don't.
If there is some news about Debian Pure that you want to send to OSNEWS, do send it to them so they can also post that here. Otherwise, you can write an article about it and get it posted here so your favourite distribution gets some press ;^) There is no need to be so negative about some other distribution.

Regards

Banshee is a very good iTunes alternative/clone for Linux and is able to handle iPods.

Rhythmbox is also a fine iTunes "clone".

Both are available for Breezy, and Rhythmbox is included with both Breezy and Hoary.