Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 19th Oct 2005 11:33 UTC
Internet & Networking "Ask a Russian where television, fashion shows, hip-hop or hieroglyphs were invented and you will no doubt hear - in Russia. Believing in the Russian genius is an essential feature of the Russian mentality. That is why no Russian was surprised when we found out with the help of Lenta.ru the Internet in general, and blogging in particular, was, if not invented, at least predicted by a Russian back in 1837."
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short Odoevsky biography
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 12:21 UTC
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Very interesting. The idea of blogs looks so obvious today. But that time it was probably absolutely new.

A short Odoevsky biography is here:
http://www.litencyc.com/php/speople.php?rec=true&UID=5761

in russian:
http://www.peoples.ru/art/literature/poetry/contemporary/odoevski/

PS television was really invented by russians
PPS I'm russian
PPPS I do _not_ like blogs

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wealth
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 12:33 UTC
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I wish I had a butler! Will somebody please code a free one.

javajazz

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RE: wealth
by kiz01 on Wed 19th Oct 2005 17:03 UTC in reply to "wealth"
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Ask Jeeves ;)

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russians are great...
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 12:36 UTC
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for instance, did you know that Russian dwarfs are the tallest dwarves on Earth?

(instance of a rather common kind of joke in Eastern Europe, who had to endure "we Russians invented everything" until it wasn't funny anymore - actually it was never funny since it came with an occupying army)

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RE: russians are great...
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 13:22 UTC in reply to "russians are great..."
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Of course, and Russian watches are the fastest...

Anyway, this kind of thinking is not unique to russians. Every larger nation has it (no, I'm not going to point finger).

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RE[2]: russians are great...
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 13:33 UTC in reply to "RE: russians are great..."
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Anyway, this kind of thinking is not unique to russians. Every larger nation has it (no, I'm not going to point finger).

I agree with you that this way of thinking is not unique to russians. I have the impression that evey nation - no matter how small - thinks this way. Just ask the bulgarians who invented the electronic computer...

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v RE: russians are great...
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 17:25 UTC in reply to "russians are great..."
Al Gore
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 13:12 UTC
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I thought that Al Gore invented the internet.

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RE: Al Gore
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 14:57 UTC in reply to "Al Gore"
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"I thought that Al Gore invented the internet."

He didn't invent it. He just took the intiative in creating it.

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RE[2]: Al Gore
by Ronald Vos on Wed 19th Oct 2005 16:22 UTC in reply to "RE: Al Gore"
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"I thought that Al Gore invented the internet."

He didn't invent it. He just took the intiative in creating it.


Damn right. Need to keep up till people won't perpetuate lies :
http://www.sethf.com/gore/

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hieroglyphs?
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 13:24 UTC
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Wow those Russians sure had a jump on the Egyptians on inventing the hieroglyph.

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Yeah, russians are amazing
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 13:36 UTC
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Russians really were the greatest inventors on earth. I'm from Ukraine, not Russia, but I know that for sure.

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RE: Yeah, russians are amazing
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 13:53 UTC in reply to "Yeah, russians are amazing"
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Yes, that is true. I've heard that TV reciever was invented by Russian inventor on the municipal waste dump in Germany. Same with VHS, Personal Computers and so... so on.

But blogging?? Hmm... I'm sure that Egyptians were first. And the great inventors of all times were Mesopotamians, have a look:

http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventions/wheel.htm

And there were a guy, called Ciolkowsky - he has visions about races into space. Of coz, he wasn't Mesopotamian, he was Russian.

Another thing - I wonder which rockets crashes more often - from USA or Russia?

SUMMARIZING:
We should wait for the Chineese "last word" in the subject of rocket engineering (btw. their rockets are based on old Russian Soyuz-type rockets).

PS. Talking about China - they invented:
- printing
- paper
- missiles
- triangular sails (to sail to the wind, not only with the wind)
- dynamite
- and many more

PSS. So - which nation is the nation of REAL inventors?
For me - Mesopotamians ;-)

PST. Maybe we should complete a kind of list with inventions and try to find the most innovative nation on Earth? ;-)

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RE[2]: Yeah, russians are amazing
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 14:08 UTC in reply to "RE: Yeah, russians are amazing"
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China - Dynamite ????

You probable did not hear about some guy with funny name Nobel
http://nobelprize.org/nobel/alfred-nobel/biographical/timeline/inde...

Who, BTW, got his education in Russia.

P.S. I am Russian
P.P.S Every normal man IS proud of his country

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>P.P.S Every normal man IS proud of his country

Yes! It's TRUE AT ALL! And it is nice, of coz.

But... important thing is to have a sense of humour!

Beeing proud of your country without being able to joke (from time to time) is not a good thing.

Remember - inventions are made by humanity, not nations.

PS. I'm Polish.
PSS. I'm as proud of my country, as I'm proud of any other. Does it really matter who invented what?

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"P.P.S Every normal man IS proud of his country"

And then Italians are not so normal, because they almost always believe that things are done better in other countries. And yet they have so much to be proud about...

P.S. I am Italian

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RE: Yeah, russians are amazing
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 14:07 UTC
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Actually Nobel invented the dinamite, where do you think all that maney came from.

The chinese invented the gun powder.

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Well...
by dylansmrjones on Wed 19th Oct 2005 14:19 UTC
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it's not really a part of the danish mentality.

However, the danish mentality could pretty be much be described like this:

"We are so good, we don't have to prove it"

Major innovations and Denmark doesn't really fit together. But we are the best to the small innovations ;)

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Cybernetics
by IceCubed on Wed 19th Oct 2005 14:27 UTC
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Russians also invented Cybernetics
and a LOT of other gr8 things.
But they didn't invent everything ;)
I would say that Chineese are the most `inventive`



P.S The second most `inventive` are Russians ofcource ;)
P.F I'm also Russian!
[russian in latin latters sucks]
Pret liudi! Mnogo vas zdes?

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Aga - nas mnogo !
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 14:36 UTC
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Mnogo :-)

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not only the chinese
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 14:53 UTC
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Ottomotor (German), Dieselmotor (German), Computer Konrad Zuse (German), E=mc² Albert Einstein (German), Printing Gutenberg (German)

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RE: not only the chinese
by IceCubed on Wed 19th Oct 2005 15:02 UTC in reply to "not only the chinese"
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Einstein - a jew
Printing - chineese... a thousand years before Gutenberg

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Einstein was born in Germany and he was German.

Chinese was 1/4 original-Yuan, 1/4 Mongo, 2/4 Xian

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Italians did it
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 15:08 UTC
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You forgot that those who made inventions that changed the face of the earth are Italians:
Experiments of Volta and Galvani (and French Ampere) brought us Electricity
Marconi invented Radio
Meucci invented telephone (altough Americans believe it was Bell)
What would be our life without these inventions? And dont forget geniuses like Da Vinci and Galilei and lots more as well.

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RE: Italians did it
by IceCubed on Wed 19th Oct 2005 15:09 UTC in reply to "Italians did it"
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Read some history

Popov Invented Radio - and he was Russian

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RE[2]: Italians did it
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 15:23 UTC in reply to "RE: Italians did it"
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No, no, you read some history.
A brazilian priest filled a patent requeriment in Italy a few years before Marconi's demonstration, both used the waves to transmit the little blinking lights.
By the way, brazilians invented the really most apreciated things...
*Samba(the music, not the smb share)
*Daily baths
*Cachaça(if you never tried it, run to a liquor store!)
*Airplanes (before thinking about Wright Brothers, remember that they used horses (!) once a time and never made a public demonstration, while Santos Dumont flew around Paris)
*Barbecues
And the list goes on and on and on

Post scriptum: I am brazilian
Post post scriptum: I'm not proud of any country, what an uncivilized concept!

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RE[3]: Italians did it
by IceCubed on Wed 19th Oct 2005 15:29 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Italians did it"
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Airplanes were being invented all over the earth but the first who made a Motorized-Flight was some German inventor 5(?) years before Wright Brothers

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RE[3]: Italians did it
by Manik on Wed 19th Oct 2005 20:54 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Italians did it"
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Cachaça is a marvel, but you should try Rum, the real thing, Barbancourt from Haïti, or anything from Marie-Galante or Martinique…

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RE[2]: Italians did it
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 19:20 UTC in reply to "RE: Italians did it"
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Tesla has radio controlled torpedoes before marconi even sent his first signal.

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RE: Italians did it
by IceCubed on Wed 19th Oct 2005 15:25 UTC in reply to "Italians did it"
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Marconi invented Radio

Marconi just applied a patent, Popov didn't

So Marconi is MFing theif and a good POS

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Rossiya - rodina slonov!
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 15:17 UTC
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Zabyli samoe glavnoe...

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Chekov
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 15:18 UTC
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I keep waiting for someone to mention the running joke from the original Star Trek series -- whenever an invention was mentioned the Russian navigator would explain that it was originally invented by a Russian. This is apparently a rather old reference.

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Russia is a motherland of elephants...
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 15:22 UTC
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The is ajoke in Russia about some study that has been done in several primary schools. Children have been asked to write some essay about elephants.
So Americans wrote "Elephants are really huge mammals..." (like amiricans' cars :-)
Indians one wrote "Elepants have a good character..."
Finally Russians wrote
"Russia is a motherland of elephants..."

Take it with humor people...

P.S. I'm Russian
P.P.S. Radio has been invented in Sp.Petersburg too ;-)

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Toilet Paper!!!
by IceCubed on Wed 19th Oct 2005 15:41 UTC
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The greatest invention of all times. Toilet Paper, was invented by chineese ;)

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Ehem
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 15:42 UTC
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You ALL need a true lesson in history. Not that government fed kind either.

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RE: Ehem
by IceCubed on Wed 19th Oct 2005 15:43 UTC in reply to "Ehem"
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Agreed

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About inventions
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 15:50 UTC
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I think we have to classify the invention not by who first did it, but who made it mainstream enough or good enough to be extended...
so rockets stay with germans, phones, nuclear power with americans, radios with italians, planes with brazilians and french[after all, he was living in France]
but, they were all geeks, and geeks are a nation apart, so congratulations to us ;)

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RE: About inventions
by IceCubed on Wed 19th Oct 2005 15:55 UTC in reply to "About inventions"
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Radios with russians.

once again Russians invented the radio.

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RE: About inventions
by durbhas on Wed 19th Oct 2005 17:51 UTC in reply to "About inventions"
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radio was invented by jc bose , and indian
http://www.vigyanprasar.com/ham/JCBOSE1.htm

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v Ahuiyel shto li
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 15:59 UTC
American
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 17:23 UTC
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But, americans invented Jazz!!!

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Lasers
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 17:37 UTC
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Russians also invented lasers (Basov&Prokhorov Nobel prize)

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Aliens
by jaboua on Wed 19th Oct 2005 17:52 UTC
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Aliens invented radio, television and nuclear weapons, humans just re-created it. And then some other humans on the other side of the world recreated it again. And then there is a nuclear war, and we re-invent it again.

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Chinese - inventor?
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 17:53 UTC
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NO! they are discoverer, or thief, or... but NOT inventor. Why many people usually said "big Chinese's inventions", that simple they are a bigggg contry.

Question:

1 who are "invented" yang-yang?
Hmm, some one..., long long ago...

2 who are "invented" kung-fu?
Hmm, some one...,

answer: Indian, who bring Buddhism to China.

3 Did you know Acupuncture was invented by both India, Vietnamese, Europe not only Chinese

4 Chinese have claimed that they owned "Pascal Triangle", "pi", "zero number", and more and more... without exhibits.

Here, i'm not Russian.

And now, Russian, Europe, India... with fully Exhibits - their inventions:

1 pi
2 number 0
3 Pascal Triangle
...

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I am not Russian, but Russia-educated :-)
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 19:21 UTC
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Russians invent, but rarely implement :-) That is why others get richer than Russians. Too romantic a people.

I am not Russian, but educated in Moscow :-) I'm half Russian in heart, or even 75%.

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Huh?
by Smartpatrol on Wed 19th Oct 2005 20:29 UTC
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Russian genius? isn't that an oxymoron?

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Best OS News Thread ever
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 20:37 UTC
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...especially for the comments ;)

PS: i'm italian
PPS: i just invented a lie so i don't have to go to school tomorrow

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The Egyptians invented BEER
The Roman invented CONDOMS.
However this is a funny thread, it isnt really important whoever invented anything. A Genius does not belong to any country but to the whole world. Charlie Parker and Mozart are brothers:-)

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> Charlie Parker and Mozart are brothers:-)

No man, they aren't.
They lived in different times and their parents were completely different.
What are you talking about...

oh wait
nevermind

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In soviot russia
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 21:32 UTC
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In soviot russia, blogs predict you.

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Stop!
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 21:51 UTC
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Stop posting meaningless comments!

If Russian have ever the leader, they are continuing the leader.

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RE: Stop!
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 22:39 UTC in reply to "Stop!"
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Right. This thread is degenerating to the level of wild forest animals. I wish I had a butler who could filter pointless forum posts for me...

PS: I am Russian
PPS: I had no idea that so many Russians read osnews.
PPSP: OK, Popov invented the radio. Then what did he do with it? Nothing. So why are we proud of a guy who invented the radio and did nothing with his invention?

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RE[2]: Stop!
by IceCubed on Thu 20th Oct 2005 08:03 UTC in reply to "RE: Stop!"
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PPSP: OK, Popov invented the radio. Then what did he do with it? Nothing. So why are we proud of a guy who invented the radio and did nothing with his invention?


He used it for military communication purposes...

mmm...

He used it to communicate with military ships...

Read his biography

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RE: Stop!
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 22:41 UTC in reply to "Stop!"
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As we may all remember, Russian imperial culture was killed.
And Russia stayed a long time not consumism-driven.
So I guess that they had a little stone in the way, but the history tells that Russia has gone up and down a lot of times, so maybe tomorrow they are back ;)

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RE[2]: Stop!
by Anonymous on Thu 20th Oct 2005 16:50 UTC in reply to "Stop!"
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I'm not Russian. But, I have believed that Russian are always the leader.
Reasons which made some one hate Russia[n] are Russian were communist (USA), Russian're better than them (China). So, in history, in present, they want to make Russia down.

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TV-history
by Anonymous on Wed 19th Oct 2005 23:37 UTC
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Actually TV-inventions looks like bad joke.
It was invented at least 4 times, and all that by russians.
1-st time in St.Petersburg, second - in Germany, and two remaining times in USA (search for "Zvorykin" with Google , and also search for biography of RCA founders - one of
them was *** immigrant from Russia).

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Nationalism
by rajj on Thu 20th Oct 2005 01:42 UTC
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I always love how people associate the achivements of individuals with nations and then elevate themselves with the same mere association.

To me, any "normal" person would see nationalism for what it is and NOT be proud of their stupid group membership for which they had no part in choosing.

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Don't forget Helicopters
by IceCubed on Thu 20th Oct 2005 08:09 UTC
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Helicopters were invented by russians, Sikorsky anyone?

Also 20 before the y2k bike [the turbine bike... google for it], in 70-80'ies
Izh [an auto-moto company in russia] created a prototipe turbine bike ;)

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