Microsoft: No Plans To Seek Open-Source Licensing Approval
Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 20th Oct 2005 11:12 UTC
Microsoft While Microsoft has no current plan to apply for Open Source Initiative approval of the new licenses that will govern its Shared Source projects going forward, the software maker has not ruled this out as a possibility going forward.
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Well,
by dylansmrjones on Thu 20th Oct 2005 14:30 UTC
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2005-10-02

those licenses probably won't be certified.

Unless OSI decides to weaken the demands for a license to be certified.

The "new" MS licenses simply aren't open source licenses.

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RE: Well,
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 20th Oct 2005 15:54 UTC
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2005-06-29

The "new" MS licenses simply aren't open source licenses.

A lot of people disagree with you, including Danese Cooper and Tim O'Reilly. I haven't looked at the licences myself yet, but the tone has been set.

I know that MS + OSS = FATAL ERROR for most people, but not for me. First let me read the license, then I'll make a proper judgment. Calling the licenses aforehand "not open source" is silly and ignorant.

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RE[2]: Well,
by dylansmrjones on Thu 20th Oct 2005 20:44 UTC in reply to "RE: Well,"
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2005-10-02

I already have read them. And many people agree with me. They do not qualify as open source licenses.

But we'll see.. wouldn't hurt me if MS actually made a true open source license. I'd welcome such a step. This just isn't such a step. Yet.

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RE[3]: Well,
by Marcellus on Fri 21st Oct 2005 03:40 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Well,"
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2005-08-26

Feel free to explain why MS-PL and MS-CL do not qualify as open source licenses, as FSF Europe agrees that they look like they are OSI compliant even today.

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RE[4]: Well,
by pinky on Fri 21st Oct 2005 12:44 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Well,"
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2005-07-15

as FSF Europe agrees that they look like they are OSI compliant even today.

no, the FSFE says, that it looks like that are free software licenses and "FSF's Free Software Definition" compliant. They don't rate licenses with the OSI definition and they don't decide which license is OSI compliant.

Just to avoid confusion.

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by Marcellus on Thu 20th Oct 2005 19:48 UTC
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2005-08-26

A lot of people seems to be stuck on the two licenses that are "Windows only" limited and the one that is "read only", and refuse to see the two ones that actually most likely would get certified as open source licenses if MS submitted them for such approval.

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license
by pinky on Thu 20th Oct 2005 20:57 UTC
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2005-07-15

it seems like the Ms-PL and Ms-CL are really free software licenses: http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/press-release/2005q4/000120.htm...

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v beast jumping on bandwagon?
by Anonymous on Fri 21st Oct 2005 03:54 UTC
RE: beast jumping on bandwagon?
by Anonymous on Fri 21st Oct 2005 09:01 UTC in reply to "beast jumping on bandwagon?"
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Agreed. I just don't wanna listen to any of their s h i t any longer. If they want to catch my attention they should first conceal their identity ;)

(Ups, I shouldn't give that advice for free...)

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