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Sorry we only have the news in german yet:

http://yellowtab.de/news/article.php?id=167

It is right on the frontpage of yellowtab.de, so it is approved.

And even if it wasn't, it would be rather unlikely for a major internet provider to publish this illegally. This is even more unlikely as there are "limitations for accessing BFS partitions".

wanted to test Zeta(beos). I haven't got time to work with beos so much. Even if I am much interested in operating systems - I'm stuck on Linux cause I got my job to do there. ( Don't have any test box )

That is not normal: yellowTAB ZETA 1,1 LiveCD as Download with freenet.de

21. October 2005

In co-operation with yellowTAB the freenet.de fire-new LiveCD of yellowTAB ZETA offers 1,1 to free of charge downloads on. The LiveCD makes possible to test it you yellowTAB ZETA without installation.

Thus customers before the purchase of the full version can convince themselves of yellowTAB ZETAs of intuitive operability, stability and that unusual Look & Feel. Download, to burn and wave off reads the foreign exchange.

Download yellowTAB ZETA 1,1 LiveCD of freenet.d

downloading right now

I rather think "durchstarten" means to boot it up.

The FreeNet page says:

The ZETA 1.1 Live-CD makes offers you an operating system free of charge, that does not even need to be installed.
[...]
The LiveCD has limitations in saving files and mounting other BFS partitions

I know it is multi language, but does it start in german and you choose? Or does it start in english and then you can choose language?

For those people who were early and downloaded R1.1 on release day, they might want to try downloading the patch again since YellowTab have pulled a silent update (you can tell by the boot screen - if it still says 1.0, then you have the old 1.1 update. If your boot screen says 1.1, then you have the new update). Personally, I think YellowTab should have releases a 0.01 patch instead of doing the silent update, since there are now 2 versions of the patch.

Apparently, other than the boot screen, a Firefox bug is fixed as well as the Mail Daemon Replacement bug. More info on yT forums as to what else might be in the silent update.

I can't seems to be able to boot it with qemu, anyone tried it?

I was a HS sophomore when BeOS R4 came out and I was the pariah because I said that BeOS kicked Linux's ass. All the other geeks thought it was a toy, even though it was in many areas more advanced and ready for the desktop than Linux is today. The fan boy in me would love to leave this thing on feeding bittorrent users a chance to give BeOS another shot.

This is really nice of them. I've been wanting to try it on my PC for quite a while. What about those people who bought the cd for $12? Do they get a discount on the full version since they actually paid the money for it?

No readme.txt included in the ZIP... How do you burn it, say in Linux?

how do I do this?
My win-box has no CD-R drive.

Is there any way to convert this to an .ISO, I want to mount it in a VMWare machine ot at least be able to burn it

it doesn't even boot in my pc, i get a kernel panic

AMD Sempron 2800+ 2GHz
1GB RAM
Gigabyte MoBo (nforce2 chip)

:/

Downloaded, tried, liked. Only caveat is that Zeta Live CD starts with German and I don't understand it. But you can change the language from Preferences. On the whole, I think it has potential, pretty good, but my DHCP didn't work.. maybe something to do with my router.
Anonymous: on Linux I burnt it with cdrdao write --device /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 --speed 10 Zeta.cue or whatever the cue file was named.
Now in BeOS 5 about to compile Haiku

Good news! Yellowtab heard what the people were saying and responded. This is really awesome on their part. If this is good and works on my PC, they can count me in.

i haven't it yet and i was waiting very ansious for it but now i see it ;_;, well anyway i'll have a DVD-BOX with covers of Zeta CD-LIVE so i'll download zeta 1.1 live-cd i'll burn it and i'll put it on zeta cd-live 1.0's box.
Yellowtab seems that doesn't want to loss a client because today i was thinking to make a patched R5.03 PRO version with driver updates for myself, hmmm... now i'll have to test Zeta 1.1 before back to R5 PRO. Anyway yellowtab is going in the good way, slow but in the good way . Regards.

I'm really getting fed up with seeing the BeOS icon beside Zeta. It's Zeta, not BeOS.

Afaik, Haiku needs it's own logo too.

There is no more BeOS, these are different products.

To create a bootable image using cdrecord (instead of a CUE file), just burn the 2 tracks:

$ cdrecord -v zetaboot.img zetacd.img

erm.
so why doesn't everybody use iso images?

Runs fine on my amd64 3000+.
I think the resolution default of 600x800 is a little strange for a modern os.
Everything works but somehow I don't get the fonts big enough to be readable with a decent resolution.
I didn't find Zeta to be very responsive (probably because it's a live cd) which is a bit disappointing since this is THE key feature Beos/Zeta are praised for...
The way the menues work also seems strange to me but you get used to it. Configuring in general is easy.

you miss the device in cdrecord

cdrecord dev=x,x,x zetaboot.img zetacd.img

you get the dev simple with:
cdrecord -scanbus

the -v is only for verbose if you wanne see the progress of burning. so like:

cdrecord dev=x,x,x -v zetaboot.img zetacd.img

Is this how far zeta have gotten in 5 years, im truly not impressed. I still remember the last BeOS that was released, and even though you could feel that they were doomed it was still impressed by it. This on the other hand, feels very unfinished. I mean just the fact that although i switched to english in the preferences, there are still some items of the os that are still in german. The applications that come with it seem scrounged up from BeBits. I mean, i loved BeOS to bits, but this release of Zeta is, well just blaaah.

I'am not a big fan of yT but i think they continue to improve BeOS post R5.
Even though the "Be's way" isn't still here yet, i think they go in the rigth direction with this downloadble version and the many improvements they've done so far.
I've still got that bitter taste about how they obtain the source and how much they (haven't) paid for it..oh well..

Can someone give me an idiots guide as to what program I need to burn it under Windows XP and how to do it?

Thanks!

Now to burn on windows?

Now to burn on windows?

Just do a Google search on cue files, and you'll find a program that supports it. At least Nero does.

It seems like an English/German combo. Is there a way to switch to English only? Or is this Live CD only in German? I'd really like to thorougly try it out ... it seems extremely responsive even on the LiveCD. (Once the CD finishes loading of course. The actual boot up is slow due to the CD. But after it finishes loading, everything is zooms. In my opinion anyway. I think the X Window System has major latency issues personally.)

for those who actually have it installed, is 1.1 really worth $100?

It's pretty slick, but for some reason, it rendered my Realtek 8169 unusable to any Linux distribution until I unplugged the box. LG3CD, Knoppix, and RHEL3 all oopsed when trying to load the r8169 after I used the network driver. However, once I unplugged the box, all was well.

Works like a charm! I am very happy, as this is the first time I see Firefox for BeOS! And it is excellent.

This is on a thunderbird 1.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, Nvidia MX400 graphics card and SB EMU10000, I forgot the name now... anyway sound works great!

However, Midiplayer is not installed correctly, cannot open a patches file.

It have the lines of a great OS. But only the lines. It needs much more work - feels like a beta version.

My major gripes are the following two problems:

1. The English/German thing. When changing the language from German to English only some of the UI changes. For instance Firefox still has a German UI.

2. The Network.
The network was sloooooooow. It took ages to load pages and sometimes it wouldn't load at all. I tried both Firefox and another browser (can't remember the name).

I hope they improve it 'cause I relly like the general feel of it I must say.

OK, I really can't figure out how to get this burned, but I want to try it out. I've tried both the cdrecord and cdrdao methods mentioned in the other comments, and cdrecord fails with "cannot open /dev/pg0" and cdrdao fails with an error message from the .CUE file.

Specifically, ZETA_1.1_LiveCD.cue:5: syntax error at "FILE" missing Eof

What does that mean? Is the CUE file bad, or the zetacd.img file (referenced in line 5) bad? There are no MD5 checksums; how are we supposed to verify the integrity of the files?

I even tried K3B, but there upon *selecting* the .CUE file (not burning it) it reports that the .CUE file is unusable. Help, please?

tks

thats what I used, nothing simpler.

Just downloaded and run the CD on my custom built PC.

So far very impressed, picked up all my hardware without any problems and I am actually writing this now in Firefox in Zeta.

Iv messed around with a number of Linux installation including Xandros and none have been this slick.

Going to seriusly consider purchasing it.

Old BeosR5 was much, much better. Forget it...

I have to say, things work way better than I could originally imagine. Expecially since I remembered to select the Finnish keyboard mapping :o)

At the moment, I am posting from NetPositive. Freakish how good this very simple browser still is!? And, for some reason, fonts in NetPositive are much crisper than in Firefox. I guess Firefox is not yet completely optimized for BeOS.

Anyway, for me, the trouble with playing MIDI files is the greatest drawback, as I am a smalltime composer.

Talking about which: why is the only MIDI sequencer included MeV? While MeV is a nice app, it's really in the very beginning stages of development. Very nice, promising, revolutionary if you like, but buggy. Why not include the beautiful Sequitur? I think Sequitur kicks MeV's butt bigtime. At least, yellowTab could have included it alongside MeV.

I have to give yT credit for listening to the public for once. This is a step in the right direction.

Oddly enough I got thrown into kernel debugging land at boot though. It's odd because the install CD works just fine on this box. The Live CD should do the same.
Good thing I didn't pay 10EUR for it just to find out that it doesn't boot

for some reason the livecd doesnt like my video card or maybe my monitor. i have nvidia 6600gt and a relisys 770 monitor. everything boots up and i hear some login sound, but the monitor goes blank after the zeta booting screen. kinda like the frequncy is out of range or something. i read somewhere that it defaults to 800x600 which should work; unless they're trying to have a 120Hz refresh or something.

(1)Zeta kicks ass.
(2)Fast and stable so far.
(3)Will purchase on monday.

Use cdrecord to burn
cdrecord dev=x,x,x zetaboot.img zetacd.img works perfect.

Seeing as I've yet to have hardware that works with Zeta, this is a good idea, going to try it shortly, then if all is well, I'll buy the sucker!

Works on my work system, be interesting to see how the home computer goes. Could do better on the language switching though. Shouldn't need to download a language specific version.

The full version of R1 completely switches language right across the system without issues, I'm guessing that due to the boot media being read only that some of the setup doesn't update...

Great OS! What a refreshing change!

Took me a while of fumbling around before I found the language changer. Also, I got DHCP working, but it took a while to take and a restart of firefox. Got it in 1280x1024, coz it looked fuzzy before on my lcd. It comes with a German keyboard setup, so the y key was z, etc. Some of the langage is still in german but I'm finding my way around anyways. :-)

Hey, burn the .cue file in nero or something. ;-)

When burning in NeroLinux, don't forget to click on Finalize Disc so that you can then click on Disk At Once. Multitrack bin/cues like this one requires DAO mode to burn.

I tried it on my 1GHz laptop... it boots okay, but they don't get the pitch for the display right, so the graphics are all skewed making it unusable.

cdrecord worked reliably as always...
Resolution was transformed to 1920x1200 after with a few clicks

I think it's great that ZETA is making this LiveCD available.

Early opinion on value = don't know If it's worth $100 (Deluxe)

Zeta failed to recognize file systems on 3ware card...
I kinda got used to that space.

Quick tip...if you have problems booting press the space bar at the start of the boot process to enter safe mode.

Glad I got to try the Live CD before purchasing. On my laptop it only boots in safe mode so low resolution, no sound, and USB mouse not recognised. Didn't see any wifi support but I didn't look that hard. In fact as they have still got the GL teapot demo and Gobe Productive its working roughly the same as 6 year old Beos R5. Maybe it would be best to try it on a desktop.

Now running on my home system but my Echo Gina 3G plays sound but with distorted output. Still works well otherwise on both systems.

I'm a BeOS veteran (I think I earned the title, being around since 4.0), and I was devastated when Be inc. went down. Zeta is the best hope, together with Haiku, of resurrecting BeOS. In fact, Zeta is exactly the continuation of BeOS. Remember all those people complaining that, without development, BeOS will be obolete, as it won't boot on this and that CPU, won't support the new network and graphics cards etc.? Well, Zeta is the product that made that support possible, and it even boots on opterons.

There is no disrespect to BeOS by using it's icon for Zeta stories, on the countrary.

I'm posting this from NetPositive. Zeta booted without problems on my amd64 based system.
I had to change the screen resolution and I think the USB mouse only started working after I opened the USB preferences panel.
The main problem is that it didn't mount my NTFS partitions. The Reiser partition mounted ok, but is read only.

PS: Net+ still doesn't seem to have JavaScript support. The preview feature does not work.

Zeta doesn't boot on my one computer and doesn't recognize the onboard video cards on my other two computers. I can't get above what looks like 256 colours.

I'm glad the demo was free because now I know my hardware isn't supported.. despite being on the list. Strange.

Oh well. Really, not too much has changed since BeOS 5. Just the interface and the preferences app. That's all I really noticed. Preferences app keeps crashing. Media player goes nuts when trying to connect and doesn't change radio stations.

Maybe it works better on better supported hardware.

Einstellungen=Preferences
Sprache=Languages
Schriften=Fonts
Tastatur=Keyboard

Aenderungen die sie hier vornehmen wirken sich auf das gesamte System aus.
=
Changes you make here affect the whole system.

Btw, why the hell is the default language set to German ?!

That really makes no sense to me. (I know it's a German company...)

I remember not to long ago, Zeta was selling there Live 1.0 for about $10.

Common, just look for the icon with the German FLAG on it (under system preferences).

I bet it is even easier then changing the language on say a MS system.