Linked by Andrew Youll on Sat 12th Nov 2005 17:34 UTC, submitted by Paul J. Beel
Amiga & AROS The AROS Show has done an interview with Michal Schulz who is a longtime member of the AROS Team, in the interview he talks about how he got interested in Amiga's and how he came to be on the team, and where he see's AROS going in the next couple years.
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Damn,,,
by dylansmrjones on Sat 12th Nov 2005 19:09 UTC
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2005-10-02

I was actually thinking about submitting this.. damn damn :p

Right now I'm negotiating with an AmigaOne dealer about the configuration and price of a system/mobo, due to AmigaOS being the OS of my dream (especially the data types... uuuhhh ;)

The interview is quite funny btw. His old Amiga couldn't have given him much money, if it only gave enough for a CPU monitor to his K6-2 266 pc.

I tried the Aros boot cd in Virtual PC, but it didn't work too well at all. But it sure does look interesting ;)

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RE: Damn,,,
by dylansmrjones on Sat 12th Nov 2005 19:47 UTC in reply to "Damn,,,"
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2005-10-02

CPU monitor should be CRT monitor .. wonder why I can't edit my post :p

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RE: Damn,,,
by Andrew Youll on Sat 12th Nov 2005 19:51 UTC in reply to "Damn,,,"
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2005-06-29

I have actually used AROS and it is a pretty neat OS, i will admit I have never used AmigaOS, I did however play games on my cousins Amiga, but that doesnt count as I just played Games, I would like to see more updates on the AROS site, but they're busy updating the OS so it's not all bad.

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RE[2]: Damn,,,
by dylansmrjones on Sat 12th Nov 2005 20:22 UTC in reply to "RE: Damn,,,"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

It does look neat. Perhaps I should try it with another emulator. Or just burn that damn disk :p

I'm gonna buy me an AmigaOne if I can get the price right, but it will be the real ATX version and not the microATX version (the latter one is unupgradable in regard to the CPU - G3 at 800 MHz is too little for me).

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RE
by Kroc on Sat 12th Nov 2005 20:19 UTC
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2005-11-10

I tried running this in a virtual machine but it would just crash trying to boot the installer CD ;) I've always wanted to try Amiga OS (particularly v4) but it's a very hard OS to get access to.

Has a PPC MacMini... doesn't want to spend several hundred on an AmigaOne machine. ¬.¬

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RE
by Andrew Youll on Sat 12th Nov 2005 20:23 UTC in reply to "RE"
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2005-06-29

Is your Mac Mini your only system? if it is see If AROS will boot inside Mac OS X using Bochs: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/unix_open_source/bochs.html

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RE
by Kroc on Sun 13th Nov 2005 00:31 UTC in reply to "RE"
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2005-11-10

Thank you for this link, this is a Gem of a program! I already use VMWare on PC, but didn't want to get VirtualPC for Mac. The native version of QEMU, "Q" runs very nicely, thanks ;)

Now if it were only possible to unzip the downloads from the AROS site on Mac...

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RE
by JLF65 on Sun 13th Nov 2005 18:45 UTC in reply to "RE"
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2005-07-06

Is your Mac Mini your only system? if it is see If AROS will boot inside Mac OS X using Bochs

If you're a little more technically competent, you could install linux and compile AROS for PPC. I installed Fedora Core 4 on my (older) G3 iMac and having AROS hosted for PPC running on it. PPC support has a few more quirks to iron out, but it's just about there. Running AROS on an iMac is sweet!

You don't have to eliminate OSX - I have my iMac set to dual boot between FC4 and OSX 10.3.9.

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RE
by Kroc on Sun 13th Nov 2005 23:38 UTC in reply to "RE"
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2005-11-10

Dual booting isn't really an option as my Mac runs 24/7 as a server. I'll go the QEMU route instead. Plus the thought of compiling software scares the hell out of me. I only make trinket programs and scripts in windows to save time and I'm used to pressing a play button in VB and that's it - every experience I've had of compiling other languages has been more unimaginable hassle then I care for.

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RE
by JLF65 on Mon 14th Nov 2005 01:51 UTC in reply to "RE"
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2005-07-06

Well, if you ever decide to try your hand at it, remember that recent benchmarks showed linux on PowerMacs did better with server software than Mac OSX. Something about a problem with OSX being slow on thread creation or something like that. If your Mac is a 24/7 server, it might be better for you to run linux on it than OSX. Something to consider in any case...

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RE
by Kroc on Tue 15th Nov 2005 07:43 UTC in reply to "RE"
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2005-11-10

This is only a MacMini; I did read the ArsTechnica article about the G5 performance but a G5 is kind of out of my league ;)

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RE
by dylansmrjones on Sat 12th Nov 2005 20:24 UTC in reply to "RE"
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2005-10-02

Yeah... AmigaOne's are quite expensive. Actually ridiculous expensive ;)

But AmigaOS 4 fits so well to me I have to find a solution. Many years since last time I fiddled with the Amiga.. actually too long :p

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try
by novaburst on Sat 12th Nov 2005 21:59 UTC
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2005-11-12

You can easily try AROS by going to http://www.aros-max.co.uk/

This is an AROS distribution. You can even run it under Windows to try it out.

You can also try downloading the nightly build from the AROS web site. http://www.aros.org/download.php

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Pegasos is a "cheap" PPC alternative
by Raffaele on Sun 13th Nov 2005 13:13 UTC
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2005-11-12

AmigaONEs are expensive and manufacturing is almost stopped because it starts only "on-demand" when it reaches a great number of requests by buyers.

Mini-macs are pretty tiny non-expandable toys.

But there is a cheap expandable alternative.

Try Pegasos first.

Pegasos is an expandable machine standard MicroATX form factor. It enters in any ATX case and has standard PS2 ports for cheap mouse and keyboards. It can mount PCI cards, upto 2GB memory with standard DDR modules ranging from PC2700 to PC3200, 3,5inch standard HDDs, and it also features AGP slot on which it can be mounted cards upto ATI Radeon 9250.

Current price of a Pegasos in Euro (from european dealer) is 499 Euro.

It includes motherboard + PPC G4 CPU card + MorphOS &/or Linux Installation CD.

Half-assembled system ("base" + HD + videocard + ram) is about 529 Euro.

Complete system ("half assembled" + case w/power supply + DVD combo writer) is about 629 euro.

Price in USA at genesippc site is about 499 US$...

(For europeans this means that price of Pegasos in USA it is only 425 Euro at current exchange rate, but you must add transport fees, and airport and tax duties applied by your nation)

The good news of this little monster is that if you want to preserve your money, then you could recycle spare parts from your old PCs.

If you have friends who want to trash their old PC, you can trade or BETTER receive as gift, their old hardware.

[Audio, USB, Firewire, S-PDIF, ethernet and giga-ethernet are on-board, so you have no necessity to mount them.]

Old PS2 mouse and keyboards work well, you can use i/o peripherals of you own if in good conditions.

Old AGP ATI 3,3 volt pin-layout video cards are good to fit Pegasos.
(even some PCI video cards are functioning on peggy. see list of working hardware on Pegasos related sites and forums)

Old DDR ram ranging from PC2700 (266 MHz) upto PC3200 (400 MHz) could fit in it.

Old 40 GB HDD are still quite good for MorphOS, because complete OS installation occupies only 17 MB...

(Yes, you have read it well. Complete installation occupies 17 MEGA-bytes into your HD)

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