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That works in reverse too. If IE has tabbed browsing and RSS, then to the average Joe it is "good enough" and switching to firefox is less of an obvious thing.

Microsoft, Mozilla, Opera, Apple, and the Konquerer guys are all collaborating on anti-phishing interfaces.

Here's Google's Anti-Phishing firefox extension
http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/safebrowsing/

Apple actually did not attend the meeting (I believe) you are refering to.

But, anyway, let's hope Apple will also collaborate with the other parties on the subject.

Agreed. It's hard not to be a little skeptical, but it certainly a refreshing change! Maybe because it's Christmas......

> Maybe because it's Christmas......

Christmas 1914 all over again? ;-)

Yeah - one has to wonder which is Snoopy and which is the Baron eh?

Peace is good though.

They just said "We're using your icon, ummm for the sake of the user of course..."

Read the f--king article before commenting, sonny. This was a mutual descision made by BOTH Mozilla AND Microsoft.

Very professional Thom. I guess we all can see where you want the site to head. If a poster's comment offends you that much, you should ban them and say nothing, not have a fit.

If I was a 20 year old frustrated kid, I wouldn't for sure calling anyone "sonny". This is not the first time when you exercise in public your sexual frustrations. Mod me down, feel free , but I can come with examples.

Why can't we mod OSNews so called "admins"? I bet Thom Holwerda would be gone by now.

Why can't we mod OSNews so called "admins"? I bet Thom Holwerda would be gone by now.

I agree the mods should post vitriol like this under a normal user account so it can be properly modded (down!). But hey although Thom makes a few bad calls once in a while is no reason to wish him gone.

I think we've gone over that, well, only about 238263487628 times: when me and Eugenia can get modded down, people will mod us down only because we are Thom and Eugenia.

That's why we can't do it. Because, *surprise surprise*, I actually agree with you on this one (it doesn;t feel right here either that you can't mod me down). Don't look at me on this one, look at some of our readers. They're to blame that you can't mod me down.

Of course that doesn't mean I won't post the way I post. Hij die kaatst kan de bal verwachten.

Which does not remove the fact that discourtsey to others is unacceptable and unattractive, especially from an administrator. I'm sorry Thom, I often agree with much of what you say and indeed the original post was factually incorrect, but that does not excuse the use of swear words or derogatory terms such as "sonny"; I presume that you have no idea how old or of what gender the poster is.

Please, if the admins cannot display restraint and lead by example, what hope have we of ever taming the trolls and bigots?

"I think we've gone over that, well, only about 238263487628 times: when me and Eugenia can get modded down, people will mod us down only because we are Thom and Eugenia. "

Lame excuse. Anyway, I had my rant.

"Of course that doesn't mean I won't post the way I post"
Of course not, it is in your character to insult people. Way older than your fresh 20's.

"Hij die kaatst kan de bal verwachten"
... and what goes around comes around, don't expect mercy when there will be a poll wether you should be removed or not from the editors position.

"They just got that they cannot draw any good icon anymore"

What are you trying to say? Its hard to understand when you don't use correct grammar.

"Its hard to understand when you don't use correct grammar."

It's "it's" not "Its".

But even with you incorrect usage I was able to understand your meaning. I think the other poster was simply suggesting that Microsoft can't draw their own icons anymore. Simple enough!

Not to be a stickler here but exactly how to you make "the logo slightly different, thereby making it incompatible with the original."?

The problem with written text is the lack of vocal intonation. It was an attempt at humor (obviously a poor attempt), playing on what MS did with Sun in respect to Java.

lol.

nice dialog! I like!

is that a joke?
its stupid and not funny.
i don't think its a joke.

This is just my personal opinion but I would like to see everyone standardize around Safari's RSS icon. It's so simple and functional. It actually SAYS RSS! Just me I guess.....

That it says RSS is a good reason not to standardize around it. The icon should be protocol-neutral and not related to any implementation details since IE 7 and other browsers support more than just RSS. Atom is also supported currently, and in the future, there can be transparent support for other formats all without exposing the underlying technology details to end-users and confusing issues by having end-users referring to everything as RSS. There are also globalization issues.

I couldn't agree more. It's like those WMP icons you can put on your page. Did you know they get your UA string when you visit a page that has those. Yes, the collect all the UA strings in a database to spy on you. If you change your UA to say Linux instead of Windows your browser actualy crashes, but using the Soviet browser called Firefox you can see the debug info. It's all there. Every page you ever visited.