ActiveState Discontinues Visual Perl, Python
Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 16th Dec 2005 12:49 UTC, submitted by segedunum
.NET (dotGNU too) "ActiveState has announced the end of engineering support for Visual Perl, Visual Python, and Visual XSLT, effective immediately. The plug-ins will not be updated for Visual Studio 2005, and there will be no further maintenance on the Visual Studio 2003- and 2002-compatible versions. Due to the necessary inclusion of Visual Studio integration code in Visual Perl, Visual Python, and Visual XSLT, the plug-ins will not be open-sourced."
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Unfortunate Demise
by AndrewZ on Fri 16th Dec 2005 15:16 UTC
AndrewZ
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2005-11-15

It is unfortunate that the Perl and Python plugins for Visual Studio will be discontinued. Looks like either no one knew about them and no one used them... they will probably not be missed for VD 2005.

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v its about time
by Anonymous on Fri 16th Dec 2005 15:20 UTC
SamuraiCrow
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2005-11-19

Why pollute your hard drive with 20+ megs of .NET when you can use regular Python for a lot less?

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bretthoerner Member since:
2005-06-29

VisualPython doesn't have anythong to do with the .NET framework. It's just a way to write Python inside Visual Studio - good for people who need to use VS a lot for other projects, etc.

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Matt Giacomini Member since:
2005-07-06

Your thinking of IronPython. Different product.

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Anonymous Member since:
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While technically, your comment of 20+ Megs is correct, Visual Studio takes about 2GB of space (you couldn't be talking about the .NET runtime since that is unrelated to the topic at hand).

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Anonymous Member since:
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Troll

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Anonymous Member since:
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All right. Try to develop a little business application with ~50 tables, ~150 complex forms with both web and ritch client under .NET and Python. And when you finished, please tell me who is the troll ;-)

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Who cares - Komodo is better anyway
by Anonymous on Fri 16th Dec 2005 16:55 UTC
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I will not miss this for a second.
I have full ASPN subscription and use Komodo every day.
My subscription allows me to use Visual Perl and other Visual stuff from ActiveState, but frankly having Komodo at hand I did not see point to use it at all.

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Oh well.
by Anonymous on Fri 16th Dec 2005 17:15 UTC
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These plugins required you to not only purchase the plugin, but purchase or own visual studio. I'm sure most Perl and Python programmers don't have VS and a good number of them don't run windows either. Komodo does not require VS and is avail on multiple OS's.

The plugins were $200+ and that doesn't unclude the 700+ for visual studio. Plus, correct me if i'm wrong, visual studio didn't offer tk gui.

Obviosly thier Komodo product is doing much better. I think Komodo and Optiperl are better anyway. Komodo is cheaper and cross-platform and Optiperl is a Perl IDE on Crack.

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RE: Python works fine on windows without .NET
by ma_d on Fri 16th Dec 2005 20:28 UTC
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2005-06-29

20MB? Visual Studio ships on 3 cd's ;) .

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Anonymous Member since:
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I'm sitting here with the standard edition on two CDs. The team/professional editions might be on three. As for the cost. Mine were free, but you can get the standard edition for under $200 if you shop around.

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Anonymous Member since:
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And the ZX-81 basic is only 8 kilobyte...

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I've never used them
by jayson.knight on Fri 16th Dec 2005 23:21 UTC
jayson.knight
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2005-07-06

Longtime .Net developer, and I've yet to see a project that used any of the plugins, so I'm definitely not surprised. Let them focus on their other great products!

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Python doesn't need VS
by Anonymous on Sat 17th Dec 2005 01:39 UTC
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I think VS is good for C# and C++ programming, but quite frankly, it is a great deal of bloat for doing Python or Perl or anything else really.

I think ActiveState's Komodo or Wingware's WingIDE are much better IDE solutions for Python than VS (for those that want them).

Personally, I use a wxPython demo app called PyShell for prototyping things and then use a standard editor (Kate, Vim, Scite) to make it all permanent.

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