Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 24th Dec 2005 21:54 UTC
Opera Software Representatives at browser maker Opera denied that the company is in the process of being sold to either Google or Microsoft, and said the Norwegian firm has no other acquisition plans in the works. Opera markets an eponymous desktop Web browser as well as several mobile browser technologies. A number of published reports appeared early Friday that implied that industry giants Microsoft and Google could be engaged in a bidding war over Opera. The company called those stories mere rumors.
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People who release such rumors...
by Joe User on Sat 24th Dec 2005 22:33 UTC
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...Just want to get attention or drive more traffic to their web sites.

Poor way to get momentum, really.

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umm
by poundsmack on Sat 24th Dec 2005 23:22 UTC
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i highly dought Opera would start such a rumor to get attention. it doesnt seem like their style. though i do recall something about swimming across the ocean or something for some certain amount of downloads haha

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RE: umm
by Joe User on Sat 24th Dec 2005 23:27 UTC in reply to "umm"
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I wasn't talking about Opera, but about the guy who invented the stories (I think the web site was cooltechzone or sthg)...

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RE[2]: umm
by Anonymous on Sun 25th Dec 2005 00:26 UTC in reply to "RE: umm"
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John Dvorak is the guys name

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RE[3]: umm
by bsharitt on Sun 25th Dec 2005 02:40 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: umm"
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John Dvorak is the guys name

Well he's always making ton of off the wall guesses hoping something will stick, but CoolTechZone was the one who made of the story that the deal ahd happened and reported it as fact.

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RE[2]: umm
by Anonymous on Sun 25th Dec 2005 00:47 UTC in reply to "RE: umm"
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its "doubt" and "something". Thanks! ;)

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RE[3]: umm
by poundsmack on Sun 25th Dec 2005 01:23 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: umm"
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hookt onn fonix rilee werkt fer mee ;)

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Just Wait
by Anonymous on Sun 25th Dec 2005 01:52 UTC
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Every company that I know of that was bought out vigorously denied the rumors, even if true, right up to the moment of the press conference when the sale was announced.

I wouldn't put too much weigh in anything Opera says regarding a buyout. We'll just have to wait and see.

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AOL gBrowser
by Anonymous on Sun 25th Dec 2005 01:54 UTC
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I don't see Google buying Opera now. With their deal with AOL, I wouldn't be surprised to see a Google Broswer based on AOL explorer or even AOL explorer, under Googles influence, switching over to Mozilla's rendering engine.

But I think it's a bit exciting to see that AIM and Google Talk will now communicate with each other.

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I'm telling y'all...
by 1c3d0g on Sun 25th Dec 2005 02:49 UTC
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...as far as reliability goes, CoolTechZone is far WORSE than The Inquirer, and that speaks volumes about this whole ordeal. This "insider news" is nothing more than a bunch of cheap tricks and non-sense. And as far as John "FUD" Dvorak goes, ha, don't even get me started... ;)

Edited 2005-12-25 02:50

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Bogus...
by Anonymous on Sun 25th Dec 2005 08:17 UTC
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I thought this was bogus from the start. Why would MS buy insignificant (at this point, at least) Opera, when it has IE? What would they do with it? Replace IE with Opera? Eliminate Opera from the market? Would either be worth the investment?

Suppose for a moment that Opera replaced IE...How would that work exactly? How would this integrate into the current and existing MS development platforms? What would be the ramifications for developers?

Not going to happen, never was going to happen. At most, MS could make a bad investment to crush a very minor competitor.

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RE: Bogus...
by Anonymous on Sun 25th Dec 2005 17:22 UTC in reply to "Bogus..."
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"How would this integrate into the current and existing MS development platforms?"
IE is not a "development platform". It is a browser. A poor one, which is all but defunct, like Microsoft "Bob" or Microsoft Access.

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RE[2]: Bogus...
by Anonymous on Mon 26th Dec 2005 08:27 UTC in reply to "RE: Bogus..."
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IE is not a "development platform". It is a browser. A poor one, which is all but defunct, like Microsoft "Bob" or Microsoft Access.

Dude, time to upgrade your bigotry. IE is most certainly a development platform. It comprises a ton of Internet-related APIs that include everything from cache/state management, remote Uri access, browser hosting, navigation, scripting, controls, and ... yes, layout, rendering, and markup.

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RE[2]: Bogus...
by Googlesaurus on Mon 26th Dec 2005 20:24 UTC in reply to "RE: Bogus..."
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" It is a browser. A poor one, which is all but defunct, like Microsoft "Bob" or Microsoft Access."

Microsoft Access is all but "defunct".....?
Not a chance in hell.

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RE[3]: Bogus...
by Anonymous on Tue 27th Dec 2005 04:52 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Bogus..."
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More to the point IE "all but defunct"?

IE has much more than a majority and will have it for a long time. As much as I hate it, it's what our customers use, so I have to test in it for every user interface I write.

Even more to the point, I never did think Microsoft had any desire for Opera, but I was curious about Google. I think this news goes to show that Google is committed to supporting multiple browser platforms rather than trying to become their own.

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Re: Bogus...
by Anonymous on Sun 25th Dec 2005 08:27 UTC
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I thought this was bogus from the start. Why would MS buy insignificant (at this point, at least) Opera, when it has IE? What would they do with it?
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*Have instant access to millions of portable devices (phones, etc) where IE cannot, will not, and does not run?
*Have access to the the best, most lightweight, feature-complete rendering engine?
*have the best small screen rendering tech?

Kill it to crush it?

All these are valid reasons to buy it. Opera has some of the most advanced tech on the market, and there's more to web than desktop and notebook PCs.

But frankly I'm sick of rumours (and the people who start them) and it makes me feel dirty even thinking of the monopolist getting its grubby hands on everything.

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RE: Re: Bogus...
by Joe User on Sun 25th Dec 2005 13:15 UTC in reply to "Re: Bogus..."
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[/i]*Have access to the the best, most lightweight, feature-complete rendering engine?[/i]

I partially agree with the feature-complete rendering engine part. It is the most standard-compliant rendering engine, but not the most full-featured. If you use it you'll find it quite limited, for instance regarding Active X, or also it can't have an embedded WYSIWYG editor such as the fckeditor (http://www.fckeditor.net/) due to technical limitations (check the compatibility). Remember haw we had to struggle to force Opera to be compatible with Gmail?

So if they used Opera instead of IE, obviously many things would break because Opera almost doesn't have any IE proprietary specifications implemented.

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RE[2]: Re: Bogus...
by sappyvcv on Sun 25th Dec 2005 15:40 UTC in reply to "RE: Re: Bogus..."
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Actually they added Rich Edit support for WYSIWYG stuff. I'm not sure if it's in 8.51, but it's in the Opera 9.0 TP.

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v Opera can ONLY hope to be bought
by Anonymous on Sun 25th Dec 2005 17:20 UTC
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Can you please re-read what you just wrote?

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As I said the other day...
by gonzalo on Mon 26th Dec 2005 09:25 UTC
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I'm not saying this is the case, but sometimes releasing a rumor and then denying it sends two messages accross:

1. People (big, important ones) would love to buy you.
2. You're still available if someone really wants you.

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