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??? The best I can find is at http://www.syllable-livecd.info/ and all it lists is 0.5.7, with no actual links to ANYTHING whatsoever
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RE[2]: What is syllable?
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Nor are you writing a useful artile without a sentence saying what the thing is you're writing about. First page in any journalism book.
I'm quite certain he does that when he writes an article, but this isn't an article - it's just a copy and paste of a press release with an OSNews-provided title. I suggest that if you want Thom to listen to your ideas, you would be careful to word your posts so as not to sound like a know-it-all. Try something like:
"Thom, your readers would be better served if you provided a one-line description of the software so that they don't have to navigate the site links themselves. This would also help people following the RSS feeds, BTW."
It sounds nice, provides a rationale, and acts as an incentive for Thom to follow up on your suggestions.
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Syllable was born in July 2002 as a fork of the AtheOS operating system. Several AtheOS developers, concerned about the long-term development of AtheOS, created Syllable to ensure that development would continue.
The goal of Syllable is to create a reliable and easy-to-use open source operating system for the home and small office user. We also want to encourage developers to create an operating system that is intuitive, easy to use, and powerful.
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Why do people moderate comments like his down?
The voting system as I recall doesn't allow voting down for the simple reason of dissagreement, the parent comment has to be inflamatory or a personal attack.
Over time it seems the voting system is getting more and more abused, it's hardly worth posting on this site any more.
RE[2]: it looks ok... but I have never used it.
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If you've been coming here since it's inception, you'd know what Syllable is. This is hardly their first release announcement (not their first this month even). As for sounding like a troll, Syallable is at version 0.6.0 and maintained by a small group of volunteers. Not to take anything away from their work (which I genuinely do admire), you can not compare it to the established desktop leaders and asking people to do that, while maybe not trollish, is definitely flamebait.
The fact that you'll take the time to read and post comments but won't check out the website to investigate syllable for yourself...well, who's the twit? cheers
RE[4]: it looks ok... but I have never used it.
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Why you should be interested:
Unlike current OpenSource systems, Syllable has been designed as a desktop Operating System. It is a complete OS, rather than a distribution of loosly assembled components. The system requirements are light, yet it carries many of the features you would expect to find in a desktop Operating System. It is tightly integrated, which reduces complexity and use of resources. Hardware support is pretty good (for a non-mainstream Operating System) The design is logical (& any usability issues found in current releases will be gone by the time we release version 1.0) The guiding principle has always been Keep It Simple, Stupid.
If you're a developer, Syllable offers a decent, upto date GNU toolchain, 99% POSIX/SuS compliance, an interesting and useful set of system-specific interfaces (E.g. file system attributes), a slim but complete GUI written in C++ that has a logical and orthangonal API. We also have a fully functional multi-media API, and we'll soon be adding an internet library that will take the hard work out of managing remote resources. The developer community is lively and friendly, and there is plenty of oppurtunity for a dedicated hacker to make their mark.
Syllable is just that good that you should at least keep an eye on us. Heck, when not give the latest LiveCD a try, once it's released? You've nothing to lose, after all!
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Vanders is being a bit modest. Hardware support is *fantastic*, for a non-mainstream OS project.
The developers are extremely well tempered and friendly, like Vanders said. The project makes relatively quick progress and implements a few very interesting features (though most of it is stuff you'd expect in a mainstream desktop OS, or at least wish for). A very refreshing group to keep an eye on.
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Python port: Yes (might need some work)
Ruby port: Yes
Java port: In the works (FLOSS java, nothing from Sun)
Mono port: haven't heard of one yet.
As far as I know there are no GUI bindings any language, but that doesn't mean the community would welcome a developer willing to work on bindings (if you want to do this look at the KDE bindings for Ruby and Python, they have some interesting alternatives to SWIG).
Syllable is not monolingual, but the community is not large enough to port and maintain GUI bindings for all the languages developers might want to use. If you want to use one of these languages you will have to put some extra work into it at the moment.
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You're quite right. Once libsyllable has settled down, we're activly going to encourage bindings for other languages.
Jarek Pelczar has stated his intention to work on JamVM & GNU Classpath, and Henrik has already done most of the work in porting Mono. Once Java and/or .Net runtimes are available I'm sure we'll see either bindings for them. We may even see completely new libraries; there is no reason why we couldn't have a pure Java GUI library that talked directly to the appserver just as libsyllable does. Provided each library stuck to the protocols, applications written for each library would work together seamlessly.
Edited 2005-12-28 23:36
RE[2]: it looks ok... but I have never used it.
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Does ruby work with Syllable yet, that would be cool for me. That and having ruby bindings.
IMO every operating system should at least one easy language that is fully supported. I know Python is more popular, but having tried both, Ruby is my preference. Any chance of this happening?
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Syllable can be a good complement to linux because it is projected from the ground to be a simple desktop. It has not the linux flexibility for power user and developer desktops but it could be perfect to "joe" users and for business desktops who don't need more than common applications (browser, email client, Office suite, etc).
If Syllable had functional ports of Firefox (browser), OpenOffice.org (for office suite) and Thunderbird or Evolution (email) I and many people could use seriously as business desktop.
Syllable cannot compete with linux on servers and power users desktops but it could be used in linux/syllable mixed environments as microsoft windows alternative.
Edited 2005-12-28 20:43
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An important point to make is that we don't want to compete with Linux on servers. Linux is a very good server OS in fact.
The type of network you describe, with Syllable on the desktops and Linux running the servers, is always the way I've envisioned it. Together, I trully believe that Linux and Syllable could be a killer combination.
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When it comes to the desktop, there is a greater difference between Linux distros than between them, and, for example, FreeBSD. Both Linux and BSD have the same set of desktop applications, both have KDE and Gnome. They all have (or commonly use) Firefox, Evolution, and Open Office.
When it comes to Syllable, it already has a Browser, ABrowse, that is being improved. A native E-mail client is being tested. What I am trying to say, is that I think it would be a bad thing for Syllable to become just another Linux/BSD workalike, from the desktop non-command-line end-user point of view. A platform is not just the kernel, it's also the applications, and so running exactly the same desktop applications on Syllable that you would on Linux would detract from Syllable's status as a distinct operating system.
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It looks like a great OS, and I wish I could use it; however, I get display issues with my nVidia GeForce FX5200 & LCD monitors. I'm assuming it's related to the graphics card and not the monitor (I didn't have an CRT's handy to test it on.) I'm not sure exactly how to describe the problem-- things were clear, but the whole screen wasn't there & what was there had the left side of the desktop on the right side of the monitor & wrappped around to have the right side of the desktop on the left of the monitor. Anyway, it looks really cool, and I'm looking forward to using it when I have hardware that's supported.
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The video problem on FX5200 cards was reported when we released 0.6.0, and Arno has since produced what he hopes is a fixed version of the geforcefx driver, but we can't find anyone to test it. Would you be willing to download an ISO with the new driver on it and test it? If so, please drop me an email (vanders@liqwyd.com)
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You're not a journalist, either, Thom, if you consider it too much trouble to include a one-sentence description of Syllable in your article.
*yawn*
I clicked on the link in the article and then clicked on the About link on Syllable's website. Yeah, it was tough - links are really scary! - but it happened to work, and I feel like I've really grown as a person.
Geez...you people nit-picking Thom whenever he posts something are becoming tiresome. If you want to offer constructive criticism of the site, either do it in a non-inflammatory manner or get lost. Thanks.
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0.6 (Not 6.0) pretty much looks the same as it did in previous releases. See http://www.syllable.org/screenshots.php for screenshots.
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