Sun and Oracle have established a new strategic partnership in an attempt to challenge Microsoft with what Oracle CEO Larry Ellison calls 'standards-based systems.' According to Ellison and McNealy, their mutual goal is the production of a complete Java-centric enterprise datacenter architecture that leverages Solaris 10 and Oracle's Fusion middleware. Designed specifically as an alternative to Microsoft's .NET technology stack, the new platform is competitively priced and based on robust frameworks.
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2005-07-21
The development of Java never slept, but now Sun needs to speed up the development a bit, because they have got a big competition. I guess in the future these two big technologies (Java and .NET) will live side by side. But till now Java has been the nearly only technology for this market. This will change.
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Mike
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2005-07-06
... that is a very interesting term they used. .NET is a standard, it's just not an open standard. Java is a standard...but I do not think that is open either (more open than other systems - I will give you that), and Oracle's middleware is definately not open 
When talking about standards it would be nice to point out if those are open, closed, internationally accepted or defacto.
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2006-01-11
This has already been posted before.
http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=13258
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2005-07-06
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Hi Ronald,
and what should it be? You mean something similar to Mono, but based on a free technology? I also would like to have something as .NET but completely free. But you need a lot of professionals to create something like this. And mostly these people are paid to develop it and they are paid by companies. And these companies don't wanna spend their money for a "only" free project.
Mike
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Harmony is the Apache Software Foundation's project to create a runtime and a class library for Java. IBM pays one developer working on it, and contributed some core class libraries to it, just like Intel did. Harmony was founded in 2005, and has the goal to provide a full 1.5 enviroment, including passing the compatibility test suites.
GNU Classpath is Free Software Foundation's project to create core class libraries, founded in 1998. It does not come with its own VM, instead it is being employed as the core class library by more than two dozen runtimes for programs written in the Java programming language, and other projects. IBM's JikesRVM, Intel's ORP, FSF's gcj/gij, Kaffe, Mono/IKVM, JamVM, CacaoVM, JCVM, and various other projects collaborate on, through and with GNU Classpath. GNU Classpath is rapidly nearing completion of a free software implementation of the full J2SE 1.5 class libraries, and several GNU Classpath runtimes exist that allow developers to use 1.5 features, like generics.
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dalibor topic
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2005-07-06
Just a few months ago it was .NET to be designed to be an alternative to Java for enterprises... now Sun & Oracle aims to build "an alternative to Microsoft's .NET technology stack"... Guess all those report about .NET *not* finding any space in enterprises weren't that accurate then... ;-) Not willing to be trollish but it looks like that .NET is more pervasive than Sun is willing to admit, though probably Java is of course widespread.
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2005-11-05
The author mentions
"The availability of an open source .NET implementation based on ECMA standards certainly makes Java look more proprietary. Rather than emphasizing open standards — an area where both companies fall significantly short of competitors like Novell and IBM"
as has been mentioned above there are also numerous open source implemntations of the jre as well, the author is obviously not aware of this. The ECMA standards body is a joke, look where the latest "open" MS Office formats are as well. To say that either is more or less proprietary than the other misses the point that none of them could be considered open by way of standards.
Could the author; Ryan Paul or whatever his name is, please substantiate how either company, particularly Sun falls short of IBM or Novell when it comes to open standards, the author is clearly talking out of his arse at this point.
and what about this?
"but the price is steep. Solaris 10 provides extreme reliability but it is still very expensive if you run it on Sun's hardware"
the solaris license is still free if you use it on sun hardware so no it is not expensive if you run it on sun hardware, oh and if you bothered to check suns opteron systems are arguably the most competative systems available on the market right now.
"fight an uphill battle against Microsoft and open source industry leaders like IBM"
why bother...he's obviously a moron
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2005-07-06
