Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 16th Jan 2006 12:11 UTC
Apple Following this week's five-year commitment to the Mac platform, Microsoft said it is working with Apple to bring Virtual PC to the new Intel-architecture, although it didn't provide details about the release date. The company, however, said that it would not run under Rosetta, Apple's emulation environment that allows older PowerPC programs to run on Intel-based Macs. The company said that it would wait on receipt of the new shipping machines to better evaluate Virtual PC for Intel-Macs as well the final release date of Mac Office and Messenger for Intel-Macs; however, the company this week said it has dropped all development of Windows Media Player for the Mac.
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iEmulator
by ActiveMan on Mon 16th Jan 2006 13:39 UTC
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2006-01-15

Does anyone know iEmulator. They have announce that they will release a Intel based emulator in a month with BIOS emulator to allow to Windows execution.

http://www.hardmac.com/news/2006-01-13/#4998

Edited 2006-01-16 13:39

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Nice
by timo on Mon 16th Jan 2006 13:40 UTC
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2006-01-16

I sure hope that MS (and VMware) bring their virtualization apps to the Intel Macs. If they integrate it real tight (including services etc), we could finally have the best of both worlds working together seamlessly and without big performance penalties. I'm gonna watch these developments closely!

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RE: Nice
by nimble on Mon 16th Jan 2006 14:08 UTC in reply to "Nice"
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2005-07-06

If they integrate it real tight (including services etc), we could finally have the best of both worlds working together seamlessly and without big performance penalties.

Unlikely, because they run the whole Windows operating system on top of simulated hardware. So you can network those two OSs, and Mac harddisks can appear under Windows, but for more seamless integration you'd need a higher-level solution such as Wine.

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RE[2]: Nice
by timo on Mon 16th Jan 2006 14:52 UTC in reply to "RE: Nice"
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2006-01-16

[...] but for more seamless integration you'd need a higher-level solution such as Wine.

It certainly would need an emulation layer above hardware level. But it's worth a thought - there's a lot of people (developers for example) who would like to switch to a Mac but require some Windows software, without the need to double-boot. And obviously, MS could charge for VirtualPC and Windows at the same time, making money and inroads into the Mac platform.

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5 year commitment
by braddock on Mon 16th Jan 2006 14:34 UTC
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2005-07-08

Is this the MS that has given its five year commitment to Mac within weeks of announcing the end of OSX IE and WMP? ;)

Saying MS has a five year commitment to Mac is a mis-statement. MS committed five years of MS Office support. Nothing more AFAIK. And that is probably largely to fight OpenDocument arguments.

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RE: 5 year commitment
by modmans2ndcoming on Mon 16th Jan 2006 16:52 UTC in reply to "5 year commitment"
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2005-11-09

IE? Who cares? OS X has FF and Safari and a bunch of other browsers.

WMP? It blew on OS X... Flip4Mac is a much better WMV player.

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RE[2]: 5 year commitment
by Jack_Green on Mon 16th Jan 2006 18:03 UTC in reply to "RE: 5 year commitment"
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2006-01-04

Flip4Mac is a much better WMV player

Not entirely. I still can't go to sites such as NHL.com and listen to the streaming radio feed of games using Flip4Mac. Do any WMV streams work with Flip4Mac?

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I'd love Apple to just....
by jeffbax on Mon 16th Jan 2006 14:52 UTC
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2005-07-27

Do a Cocoa OpenOffice...

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What about...?
by Damien on Mon 16th Jan 2006 15:17 UTC
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2005-07-07

What about porting Wine (http://www.winehq.org/) for software compatibility as the hardware compatibility is already mostly guaranteed due to the, urm, hardware?

Damien

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RE: What about...?
by Tyr. on Mon 16th Jan 2006 16:58 UTC in reply to "What about...?"
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2005-07-06

Already exists, it's called Darwine ( http://darwine.opendarwin.org/ ) And Codeweavers of Crossover Office fame supports it and has said they will port over their flagship product to the Mac.

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Why port WINE?
by mini-me on Mon 16th Jan 2006 16:34 UTC
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2005-07-06

Just to play devils advocate - why port WINE?
WINE is a reverse-engineering of windows libs (from what I understand). The windows libs keep changing since windows is a live OS and always changing. I would much rather have VMware or VPC for *better* compatibility - I dont mind paying for windows if I know things will work.

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RE: Why port WINE?
by modmans2ndcoming on Mon 16th Jan 2006 17:03 UTC in reply to "Why port WINE?"
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2005-11-09

It adds new functionality rather than changes old functionality because windows wants to maintain legacy as long as possible but add new features for new program.

Wine works good actually.

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Vanderpool
by Dubhthach on Mon 16th Jan 2006 16:40 UTC
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2006-01-12

Seen that the new mac's incorpate intels virtualisation tech on chip (vanderpool) any VM's ported to them that utilise it will give alot better performance. I assume the new VirtualPC for Mac will basically use the same underlying code as VirtualPC for Windows, but with a Mac specific frontend thrown on.

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Story is incomplete
by rexbinary on Mon 16th Jan 2006 19:03 UTC
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2006-01-04

Yes this news story is incomplete. While it lists that MS is not developing WMP for Mac anymore, it fails to mention that Microsoft cut a deal with Flip4Mac to distribute their WMV player for free on the MS web site.

http://www.flip4mac.com/pr_06_01_10a.htm

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