Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 17th Jan 2006 13:54 UTC, submitted by John Mills
Legal A UK judge has questioned whether software patents should be granted, and has criticized the U.S. for allowing "anything under the sun" to be patented. Sir Robin Jacob, a judge at the UK's Court of Appeal who specializes in intellectual-property law, spoke about the potential problems surrounding software patents at a seminar for the Society for Computers and Law on Thursday evening in London. "Do we need patents for computer programs? Where is the evidence for it?" Jacob asked.
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Not surprising
by Jamie on Tue 17th Jan 2006 15:01 UTC
Jamie
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2005-07-06

The only ones who would advocate software patents are:

1) Fools who are ignorant of the facts

2) Those that have a self interest in making money from them (IE you are a big bussiness/shareholder or a patent troll)

3) Are a corrupt individual who has been bought by no. 2

Safe to say, any decent Judge would not be in any of the above so yeah its totally unsurprising that he takes that view.

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RE: Not surprising
by Sphinx on Tue 17th Jan 2006 16:24 UTC in reply to "Not surprising"
Sphinx Member since:
2005-07-09

Just so hard to find a judge who isn't corrupt stateside these days and judging by the recent addition to the supreme court it's going to get a lot harder.

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RE[2]: Not surprising
by Robocoastie on Wed 18th Jan 2006 12:41 UTC in reply to "RE: Not surprising"
Robocoastie Member since:
2005-09-15

that's a pretty bold accusation with zero evidence.

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RE: Not surprising
by Fusion on Tue 17th Jan 2006 17:59 UTC in reply to "Not surprising"
Fusion Member since:
2005-07-18

You can probably sum up those 3 into one category. The only ones who would advocate software patents are:

1) Those afraid of a little competition.

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More on this
by thebluesgnr on Tue 17th Jan 2006 15:21 UTC
thebluesgnr
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2005-11-14

If anyone would like to read up more on why software patents are bad, google for it on fsf.org.

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RE: More on this
by Haicube on Wed 18th Jan 2006 15:39 UTC in reply to "More on this"
Haicube Member since:
2005-08-06

This is a mistake. Sending users to an organisation which is completely against business is a BAD idea... this will rather encourage those who think companies can be good to be pro software patents.

Rather send them to www.eff.org or something similar which is neutral.

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RE
by Kroc on Tue 17th Jan 2006 18:03 UTC
Kroc
Member since:
2005-11-10

If I could travel back in time, I would patent the 'back button'. Just imagine how much that would set the world back ;)

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strange... but true
by raver31 on Tue 17th Jan 2006 20:36 UTC
raver31
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2005-07-06

I had to laugh when I read the judges thoughts, where he compared this to putting a patent on

"a new way of stacking oranges in a barrel."

it is true, if someone in corporate US tried this, they would probably get it.

I have said it once before here and I will say it again....

You cannot patent an idea - You cannot patent a thought.


The US needs to learn this, or they will get left behind by the rest of the IT world.

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RE: strange... but true
by Lazarus on Tue 17th Jan 2006 22:34 UTC in reply to "strange... but true"
Lazarus Member since:
2005-08-10

"You cannot patent an idea - You cannot patent a thought."

Poorly chosen wording, as well, you can (and the US corporations are masters of this). This is not to say that I disagree with the point I assume you were trying to make. In my own small and insignificant opinion, patents (in all areas, not just software patents) do far more harm than good.

What we have implemented is a system that attempts to make prisons for the mind, by treating thoughts and ideas as if they were limited physical resources to be hoarded and fought over and controlled.

It is a sad and twisted affair, that only serves to maintain the wealth and power of those who have the material resources to maintain these artificial monopolies.

Farmers being sued for having genetically modified crops aquired accidentally due to being downwind of Monsanto (one of the world's greatests evils), companies being sued because someone has a patent on a given "business process." Medicines that could save millions not seeing the light of day because the royalties the producers would have to pay to some company or other who themselves were merely building upon the work of countless others.

Lawyers, Insurance salespeople, and Politicians are the lowest forms of Human life, and yet they are the ones with power over the world. Power gained in no small part by creating artificial condidtions, and forcing the masses to walk within those constructs. And we as a whole, allow it.

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RE[2]: strange... but true
by raver31 on Wed 18th Jan 2006 08:48 UTC in reply to "RE: strange... but true"
raver31 Member since:
2005-07-06

that is what I was saying...
I will reiterate and reform my point....

You SHOULD NOT BE ABLE, to patent an idea, You SHOULD NOT BE ABLE, to patent a thought.

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