Faster Wi-Fi Standard Gets Draft Approval
Linked by Eugenia Loli on Fri 20th Jan 2006 19:10 UTC
Internet & Networking A faster Wi-Fi standard appears to be about a year away, after a task group unanimously approved a proposal for an update to the 802.11g standard.
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good progress
by necrosis on Fri 20th Jan 2006 19:27 UTC
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2006-01-18

the best part of 802.11n IMO (not mentioned in this article) is that traffic control overhead data isn't counted when quoting transfer speed.

BTW, does anybody know when the first draft standard complient adapters will be commercialised?

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Standards are swell
by smitty_one_each on Fri 20th Jan 2006 19:27 UTC
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2005-07-07

Any companies with a GPL driver yet?

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Waves and cancer
by Joe User on Fri 20th Jan 2006 19:45 UTC
Joe User
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2005-06-29

I don't want WiFi, I don't want to have cancer.
http://www.google.com/search?q=microwaves+cancer
No thanks.

Edited 2006-01-20 19:46

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RE: Waves and cancer
by nicholas on Fri 20th Jan 2006 20:04 UTC in reply to "Waves and cancer"
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2005-07-07
RE: Waves and cancer
by Gryzor on Fri 20th Jan 2006 20:12 UTC in reply to "Waves and cancer"
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2005-07-03

We all die, eventually.

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RE[2]: Waves and cancer
by fretinator on Fri 20th Jan 2006 20:56 UTC in reply to "RE: Waves and cancer"
fretinator Member since:
2005-07-06

We all die, eventually.

Not me, I'm going live for... o_]__/

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RE[3]: Waves and cancer
by espinafre on Sat 21st Jan 2006 00:28 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Waves and cancer"
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2006-01-15

Live forever or die trying...

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RE: Waves and cancer
by Tom K on Fri 20th Jan 2006 20:29 UTC in reply to "Waves and cancer"
Tom K Member since:
2005-07-06

Better put on that tin-foil hat, then!

Radio waves are everywhere you look. You can't even begin to see (no pun intended, haha) how many transmissions of various frequencies there are at any given point in time at any given location.

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RE[2]: Waves and cancer
by Joe User on Fri 20th Jan 2006 20:33 UTC in reply to "RE: Waves and cancer"
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2005-06-29

> Better put on that tin-foil hat, then!

I already have one on. And I don't have cancer. Proof of concept.

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RE[3]: Waves and cancer
by Nathan O. on Fri 20th Jan 2006 21:18 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Waves and cancer"
Nathan O. Member since:
2005-08-11

The city I live in has started an effort to make sure that no bears infiltrate the town. Since starting this program (and coincidentally, long before that), there have been absolutely no bear sightings!

And you KNOW we're going to do the same for WiFi!

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RE[4]: Waves and cancer
by Tom K on Fri 20th Jan 2006 21:57 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Waves and cancer"
Tom K Member since:
2005-07-06

Sounds like typical American/European Union bureaucratic decisions.

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RE[2]: Waves and cancer
by Peragrin on Fri 20th Jan 2006 20:41 UTC in reply to "RE: Waves and cancer"
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2006-01-05

Um you havne't heard then have you Tinfoil hats have been proven to enhance some microwaves.

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RE[3]: Waves and cancer
by Tom K on Fri 20th Jan 2006 21:58 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Waves and cancer"
Tom K Member since:
2005-07-06

Yeah that's why it has turned into such a joke. ;)

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RE[3]: Waves and cancer
by CrimsonScythe on Fri 20th Jan 2006 23:07 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Waves and cancer"
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2005-07-10

Actually, no. Aluminum foil will enhance the signal, while tin foil most certainly will attenuate. I guess your misconception comes from the fact that people erroneously call aluminum foil 'tin foil'.

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RE: Waves and cancer
by mezz on Fri 20th Jan 2006 21:09 UTC in reply to "Waves and cancer"
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2005-06-29

McKinney said there is a lack of convincing and consistent evidence of any effect of exposure to radio frequency fields on the risk of cancer.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10925501/

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Cool
by Smartpatrol on Fri 20th Jan 2006 19:47 UTC
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2005-07-06

What spectrum are they considering?

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RE: Cool
by Gryzor on Fri 20th Jan 2006 20:46 UTC in reply to "Cool"
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2005-07-03

What spectrum are they considering?

ZX-Spectrum? ;)

(dismiss, me)

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RE: Cool
by Wrawrat on Sat 21st Jan 2006 16:57 UTC in reply to "Cool"
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2005-06-30

It's not currently available on the IEEE site, but it's probably the same as the others (2.4GHz and 5GHz).

As for those worrying about cancer, the power throughput is limited at 1W. Unless you wear your AP like a crown or you ground antennas directly to your head, it's nothing to really worry about. Air pollution is a more dangerous threat.

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Compatibility???
by setuid_w00t on Sat 21st Jan 2006 00:59 UTC
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2005-10-22

I read the article, but I'm too lazy to read the draft standard. Now my understanding is that 802.11b and 802.11g both operate at 2.4GHz and 802.11a operates at 5.8GHz.

The article says "Products with 802.11n chips will be able to work with older 802.11a/b/g products at their slower speeds."

I thought that b/g and a were fundamentally incompatible because of the frequency they operate at. Is that incorrect?

What frequency does 802.11n operate at?

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RE: Compatibility???
by Wrawrat on Sat 21st Jan 2006 17:09 UTC in reply to "Compatibility???"
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2005-06-30

"Products with 802.11n chips will be able to work with older 802.11a/b/g products at their slower speeds."

Any wifi chip complying with the standards will support the previous drafts. In other words, a 802.11n device will be able to connect to a 802.11a/b/g AP (at their respective throughput, not at 802.11n throughput).

Even though they are not operating at the same frequencies, 802.11a devices can change their broadcast spectrum and connect to 802.11b/g APs.

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