Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 21st Jan 2006 19:14 UTC
Intel GamePC reviews the latest Pentium D, the 900, and concludes: "Perhaps given our low initial expectations for these processors, we actually are finishing up this lab report with a fairly positive impression of the Pentium-D 900-series processors. AMD's Athlon64 X2 processors are still a superior product, that's somewhat hard to argue against at this point. However, Intel has worked to address all of the major qualms we had with this processor lineup, and have delivered a far better product this time around. With a few clock speed bursts thrown in over the next few months, the Pentium-D 900 should have enough firepower to hold the fort until Intel's white knight (Merom) rides into view later this year."
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Very interesting
by Sphinx on Sat 21st Jan 2006 20:24 UTC
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2005-07-09

Did I read that right, comparing 2.8ghz to a 2.4ghz and they still lost? Nice box. Presler, Smithfield, Pentium-D, the new logo looks pretty hot but where are the sexy new names and rebranding of chips?

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The point?
by modmans2ndcoming on Sat 21st Jan 2006 20:58 UTC
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2005-11-09

the future is the Core Duo and solo.

Pentiums are dead ends.

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RE: The point?
by rayiner on Sat 21st Jan 2006 21:46 UTC in reply to "The point?"
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2005-07-06

Well, its fine and good to say that, but where can I buy a Core Duo desktop? Like it or not, the Pentium-D is still Intel's desktop chip, and will remain so for the next six months until Conroe comes out. Until then, it has to remain at least somewhat competitive.

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RE[2]: The point?
by poofyhairguy on Sat 21st Jan 2006 21:52 UTC in reply to "RE: The point?"
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2005-07-14

Well, its fine and good to say that, but where can I buy a Core Duo desktop?

From Apple:

http://www.apple.com/imac/intelcoreduo.html

You knew that though.

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RE[3]: The point?
by rayiner on Sat 21st Jan 2006 22:54 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: The point?"
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2005-07-06

The iMac is a desktop machine, but its an AIO design. AIO designs usually use laptop components, because of their limited internal room. So the fact that you can buy an iMac with a Core Duo doesn't make the Core Duo a desktop chip. If it were, it would fit in Intel's standard desktop motherboards.

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RE[4]: The point?
by modmans2ndcoming on Sun 22nd Jan 2006 14:59 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: The point?"
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The iMac uses normal hardware though.

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RE[5]: The point?
by rayiner on Mon 23rd Jan 2006 01:56 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: The point?"
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2005-07-06

Have you looked inside the Intel iMac? It's like a laptop in there! It uses a completely custom (and strangely-shaped) motherboard, with chips on both sides. The graphics chip is soldered onto the motherboard, as is usually the case on laptops. It uses a Centrino mobile chipset (945GM), and a mobile CPU (Intel Core Duo).

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RE[2]: The point?
by fizzled on Sat 21st Jan 2006 21:52 UTC in reply to "RE: The point?"
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2006-01-06

Well, its fine and good to say that, but where can I buy a Core Duo desktop?

From Apple

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RE: Very interesting
by JamesTRexx on Sat 21st Jan 2006 21:49 UTC
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2005-11-06

Because of the architecture of the pentium they can never get the performance of the AMD chips who were designed from the ground up to be multicore, no matter how much GHz they run them at. We'll have to wait for the new ones to see if iNtel can go up against the underdog AMD.

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New ideas ?
by Eric Martin on Sun 22nd Jan 2006 00:23 UTC
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2005-11-11

Why doesn't Intel go silicon germanium or tunneling transistors ?

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RE: New ideas ?
by Lazarus on Sun 22nd Jan 2006 04:42 UTC in reply to "New ideas ?"
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2005-08-10

"Why doesn't Intel go silicon germanium or tunneling transistors ?"

Patents they don't own and royalties they'd have to pay.

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RE: New ideas ?
by rayiner on Sun 22nd Jan 2006 06:46 UTC in reply to "New ideas ?"
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2005-07-06

Why doesn't Intel go silicon germanium or tunneling transistors ?

Likely because these processor transitions are planned out years in advance, and Intel has their own overall gameplan for what technologies to use. They didn't license SOI back when IBM and AMD shifted to it either.

Edited 2006-01-22 06:48

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What are they doing?!
by hraq on Sun 22nd Jan 2006 08:25 UTC
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2005-07-06

I don't know what Intel are doing? P4 archietecture was dead 3 years ago and started to decay 2 years ago and became sand 1 year ago, what are they doing?!
Bring the new chip now or suffer consequence later from AMD. My message for Intel : Watch AMD market cap increase every day and stop saying why?

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Come
by Smartpatrol on Mon 23rd Jan 2006 19:06 UTC
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2005-07-06

One thing people tend to forget when compairing these two CPU's is the huge performance gain when you have an on die memory controller. You will the memory intensive test are slower on the Pentium however when it came to the FPU performance the AMD was slower. All in all the Pentiums perform good for what it is.

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