The KDE project has released the first maintenance release of the 3.5.x series. The changes made in this release are mainly bugfixes; the changelog details all the changes. For more information on the KDE 3.5.x series, check its announcement. You can check KDE's download page for the source, or for the binary packages for various distributions.
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just goes to show..
you dont know what you are talking about...
Bugs dont necessarily mean security holes.
and seeing as how more servers on the internet are OSS based, yes that challenge has been made, and proven in favor of OSS.
Dont live your whole life being a complete tool
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RE[2]: bugs are bugs, wheather it is Linux or MS...
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Well, if you've ever used linux you would have noticed that to do anything serious you'd need to enter a password. This means that as a normal user, you and all the programs you start can only edit/delete/open files in your home (My Documents) directory unless you give them your root (administrator) password. Another thing is that Linux and a lot of the software that runs on it is opensource, this means that as soon as a bug is found you can send a patch for it yourself and you don't have to wait till the company that owns the product fixes it. Another advantage of open-source is that anyone can look at the code, so bugs are found faster. We ofcourse also shouldn't forget that there are lots of different kinds of linux distro's, and that a virus for one will probably not affect the other. Also Linux has much less marketshare than MS Windows, which helps too ofcourse 
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Apt will know about it if you use 'checkinstall'
http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/
after ./configure and make you do checkinstall instead of make install. It makes a .deb out of it and installs it and apt knows about it. You can even see it in Synaptic.
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Howdy all
Because it's off-topic. Just like yours, by the way.
3.5.1 is mostly a bug fix release, so how does talking about bugs make it off topic ?
I`ve personally been waiting for this release, it always seems to really show differences between the last stable version without alot of the anoying common bugs
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3.5.1 is mostly a bug fix release, so how does talking about bugs make it off topic ?
If you look at ramakama's original post, he basically started from KDE bug fixes to launch into a comparison of MS and Linux security. This is symptomatic of his posting history, in which every reason is used to justify attacking Linux. It's off-topic, and it's flamebait. Moderating it down is justified, in my view.
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Yeah I've had lots of problems with kopete too. It does weird things for me it just croaks at random times and gives something like "encountered error I don't know what to do with" and then croaks. I usually can't get things back to normal until I close it and restart it. Also, AIM support seems behind the times compared with the other protocols (which of course is the one I use most). There's no support for setting your AIM profile info on kopete. I've tried contacting the developers to try helping with AIM/Oscar and while the head developer was helpful, the AIM/Oscar specific ones didn't even say hello.
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Just wondering, is there any difference between MS windows patches and kde/linux bugfixes
Yes, big ones. The most important one is that anybody can look at what exactly is changed in a kde/linux patch. With Windows, you can't.
For me it is the same thing
That's why everything you say after that is wrong.
MS is rich persons home and every thief would like to break it....
Strange sentence. Have you the rights for every software you use on Windows ?
If not, then you are a thief (as I think you mix infringement and theft). Do you want to break Windows ?
BTW there is not a single person I know that have Windows that don't have pirated software on it.
Has anyone from linux userland posted open challenge to hackers to break their relatively(with MS) secure system....maybe some hacker will be able to exploit kernel and kde bugs...
BS, there is no need for any challenge. Commercial companies are hard at work finding holes in Linux and other FOSS programs. I receive lots of FOSS bugs by these companies every day.
It's funny because most of the time, they look at release notes to find security bugs or are on some distro security list )
What is the scientific basis of claim that linux is more secure?? from hackers point of view of course....
The scientific basis is the same as the one for every scientific domain : facts all around you.
For example, number of active virus on the platform is enough proof already.
For KDE, I only remember the KJS problem though.
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I'm impressed with the KDE project in general, and the speed it seems to be picking up while still maintaining quality software...
Has anyone noticed how much more stable 3.5.0 was compared to previous .0 releases?
AFAIK, it's far better when it comes to bugs than 3.4.0.
Of course you can't do a side-by-side comparison, different features and changes yield different bugs. KDE just strikes me as a project that has a good sense of self.
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Indeed, ThawkTH. Soon, with KDE 4 on the horizon and the Appeal Project spearheading most of the eye-candy, KDE will look and feel better than ever. :-)
http://appeal.kde.org/wiki/Appeal
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I'm impressed with the KDE project in general, and the speed it seems to be picking up while still maintaining quality software...
That must be due to their good framework, and the good use of C++. That's just an impression I have, I did not review any KDE code (actually I did, but little and only to correct compilation bugs).
Has anyone noticed how much more stable 3.5.0 was compared to previous .0 releases?
I think it has also a lot to do with the FOSS framework around KDE on Linux, because Gnome has seen the same improvements too. There are now more tools like Valgrind and they are more mature (more efficient), so every project benefits. Even basic (I mean necessary and important) tools like GCC have greatly improved. FOSS only recently started using and creating profiling tools for example.
Keep in mind that MS use these since a long time, and FOSS managed to provides 2 DE that can make more than MS OSes and are more stable (this one is my experience, I don't say that's the same for everyone) without these tools. I say that because no Windows expert ever managed to tell me how to get all the mandatory functionalities I have on my Linux DE, and for things where they found solutions, they were very difficult to get and maintain and/or very expensive.
There are other things in the Linux framework that just change your life working with the DE, just look at freedesktop.org : Avahi, Utopia, fontconfig, inotify, ...
That's why I often say that KDE can't be as good on Windows, as it will lack a lot of this framework that makes DE on Linux so much better. And that goes from high level things like Window Managers, to low level things like inotify. Just the two things I cited there makes a huge difference in DE feeling if they are absent.
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kde is getting interesting, may take a gnome hiatus for a week or two and check it out. although last look only kwifimanager was worth my time, and konqueror is nice.. but ui has too many odd spaces to configure one desktop (even in the config panel, one goal can lead you into many areas) but im sure 4 will be much more intuitive
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Jeez, calm down, Dave...it's not worth bursting a forehead vein over!
Someone did the old "bait and switch" trick, started out with a legitimate on-topic comment and turned it into flamebait in an attempt to start a Linux/Windows security flamewar, which itself was off-topic. It got moderated down appropriately. No reason to become hysterical...
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