Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 9th Feb 2006 17:02 UTC, submitted by markob
Novell and Ximian After Xgl, Novell now also released Compiz, their OpenGL compositing manager. From the readme file: "Compiz is an OpenGL compositing manager that use GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap for binding redirected top-level windows to texture objects. It has a flexible plug-in system and it is designed to run well on most graphics hardware."
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On Gentoo?
by d_Yn on Thu 9th Feb 2006 18:51 UTC
d_Yn
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2005-07-06

Excellent news.. show me the ebuilds ;)

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RE: On Gentoo?
by thebluesgnr on Thu 9th Feb 2006 19:06 UTC in reply to "On Gentoo?"
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2005-11-14
RE: On Gentoo?
by Schmeggma on Thu 9th Feb 2006 20:59 UTC in reply to "On Gentoo?"
Schmeggma Member since:
2006-01-14

Hanno Böck made an Xgl guide a while ago: http://dev.gentoo.org/~hanno/

It's slightly out of date, but he has updated his overlay: http://dev.gentoo.org/~hanno/

Compiz doesn't support KDE yet, but you can still play around with most of the effects.

Edited 2006-02-09 21:00

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RE: On Gentoo?
by postmodern on Thu 9th Feb 2006 23:00 UTC in reply to "On Gentoo?"
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2006-01-27

Hanno Boeck has just updated his Xgl+Compitz portage overlay. Still has some bugs to pound out though.

http://www.hboeck.de/item/282

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Performance
by smitty on Thu 9th Feb 2006 19:39 UTC
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2005-10-13

It has a flexible plug-in system and it is designed to run well on most graphics hardware.

I haven't seen any performance tests anywhere yet. Does anyone know how this will run on Intel graphics and ATI DRI drivers? I think it is supposed to be very lightweight, but it would be nice to see this confirmed. I assume all the demos and videos we've been seeing have been using NVidia's proprietary driver.

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RE: Performance
by elsewhere on Thu 9th Feb 2006 20:51 UTC in reply to "Performance"
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2005-07-13

haven't seen any performance tests anywhere yet. Does anyone know how this will run on Intel graphics and ATI DRI drivers? I think it is supposed to be very lightweight, but it would be nice to see this confirmed. I assume all the demos and videos we've been seeing have been using NVidia's proprietary driver.

May be posted in other locations, but check out:

http://www.opensuse.org/xgl

Near the bottom, below "Hardware Independent Issues", they've got some info on hardware support including ATI and Intel. I would imagine the information should be distro-agnostic?

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RE[2]: Performance
by smitty on Thu 9th Feb 2006 21:48 UTC in reply to "RE: Performance"
smitty Member since:
2005-10-13

Good catch. Looks like:

ATI/Intel open source drivers - slow for now, but will be "OK" soon. Hopefully "OK" means it will be fast enough.

Nvidia open source drivers - no 3d support = bad

ATI/Nvidia proprietary drivers - good performance, but a couple of issues that you need to be careful about.

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Links...
by hornett on Thu 9th Feb 2006 19:41 UTC
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2005-09-19

Does any body have correct links, or are the servers just out to lunch?

HTTP Response Status

404 Not Found

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RE: Links...
by John Nilsson on Thu 9th Feb 2006 23:11 UTC in reply to "Links..."
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2005-07-06
RE: first stab at kde support
by superstoned on Thu 9th Feb 2006 21:42 UTC in reply to "first stab at kde support"
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2005-07-07

looks interesting ;)

i don't like the fact this is a seperate window manager - kwin should add these functions, like they did with composite.

aah, they will ;)

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RE[2]: first stab at kde support
by dumbkiwi on Fri 10th Feb 2006 01:00 UTC in reply to "RE: first stab at kde support"
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2006-01-02

It's a patch for xorg. It has nothing to do with a window manager albeit kwin, or anything else (unless I"m missing something).

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RE[3]: first stab at kde support
by Schmeggma on Fri 10th Feb 2006 01:28 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: first stab at kde support"
Schmeggma Member since:
2006-01-14

Compiz has to act as a window manager, apparently for some of the effects to work:

http://en.opensuse.org/Xgl#Use_compiz_as_your_window_manager

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RE[3]: first stab at kde support
by elsewhere on Fri 10th Feb 2006 01:35 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: first stab at kde support"
elsewhere Member since:
2005-07-13

It's a patch for xorg. It has nothing to do with a window manager albeit kwin, or anything else (unless I"m missing something).

No, they're kept in the xorg cvs but it looks like they've patched compiz and the gnome window decoration to work with KDE, so it would have to replace kwin.

Still, I'd be surprised if the team KDE hasn't already started evaluating the code changes necessary for either kwin or kcompmgr from when the xgl updates were first released last month. I mean, this is KDE we're talking about... ;)

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RE: first stab at kde support
by superstoned on Fri 10th Feb 2006 07:37 UTC in reply to "first stab at kde support"
superstoned Member since:
2005-07-07

looks interesting ;)

i don't like the fact this is a seperate window manager - kwin should add these functions, like they did with composite.

aah, they will ;)

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This is the best release all year!
by poofyhairguy on Fri 10th Feb 2006 06:29 UTC
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2005-07-14

This was the biggest release all year for me. The recent XGL codedump was awesome but this new release gets rid of Metacity (love to do that) and boring Xserverness all in one jump.

Anyone that has not seen XGL composite managing at work....its addictive. Its like the desktop comes alive in a way pictures not video can describe!

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maxx_730 Member since:
2005-12-14

Lol we all know you're addicted to eyecandy... I'm still waiting for a new entry on your eye candy blog about all this new exciting stuff.

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Link
by gonzalo on Fri 10th Feb 2006 07:30 UTC
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2005-07-06

Those cvs.freedesktop links are 404ing right now.

But there's a vide... sorry, an impressive vid... no, a totally mindblowing video that makes me drool here: http://www.linuxedge.org/?q=node/58 (It's about 50Mb)
(It was on one of the Gentoo forums linked above, IIRC)


The video is somewhat blurry but looks incredible anyway.

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