Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 14th Feb 2006 17:32 UTC, submitted by jeanmarc
BeOS & Derivatives As one can already see by the activity of the mailing lists, Haiku seems to be moving forward in a serious pace. Studio-33 takes a look at the latest build (many screenshots included, boys and girls), and concludes: "I was pretty impressed by this build. Deskbar and espacially Tracker seemed much more stable and Haiku didn't crash every four or five minutes like previous builds I tested. Work on Haiku seems to go pretty fast lately and more and more pieces are getting finished. Offcourse Haiku still needs a lot of work to become somewhat useable, but it is definately going in the right direction."
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Not much to say except...
by A.H. on Tue 14th Feb 2006 17:50 UTC
A.H.
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2005-11-11

... great work haiku team!!!

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mario
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2005-07-06

"Now simply copy the data from the mounted image onto the Haiku partition and reboot"

Why is this necessary, when the previous steps have prepared a separate Haiku partition to be bootable,and even added to the Bootman menu? (I am talking about the Installing Haiku section in the article.)

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bryanv Member since:
2005-08-26

None of the other steps actually copy the system files to the active partition. This does.

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mario Member since:
2005-07-06

You are right, I had the wrong impression. I'll try to actually do this myself on my own...

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Haiku
by Andre on Tue 14th Feb 2006 18:19 UTC
Andre
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2005-07-06

Cool !! Great work !!

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This is excellent progress
by britbrian on Tue 14th Feb 2006 18:31 UTC
britbrian
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2005-07-06

for such a small team. I wonder if a few more developers will now start to be interested in joining the effort.
I love all my Linux choices but I have a real soft spot for Haiku and I'm confident it will reach R1.0 and modernise after that.

Great work Haiku team !!

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Anonymous Penguin Member since:
2005-07-06

"I love all my Linux choices but I have a real soft spot for Haiku and I'm confident it will reach R1.0 and modernise after that."

Same here ;)

I don't know why Haiku is so endearing. Maybe because the Haiku guys work so hard while keeping the project open source.

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Great work guys!
by ronaldst on Tue 14th Feb 2006 18:43 UTC
ronaldst
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2005-06-29

Once completed, users will finally have a decent open source OS geared for the desktop.

Now if only the AROS team... ;)

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RE: Great work guys!
by bryanv on Tue 14th Feb 2006 19:10 UTC in reply to "Great work guys!"
bryanv Member since:
2005-08-26

... would give up and join Haiku?

:-p

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RE[2]: Great work guys!
by ronaldst on Tue 14th Feb 2006 20:10 UTC in reply to "RE: Great work guys!"
ronaldst Member since:
2005-06-29

Nah, they gotta work harder on AROS. I prefer Workbench to Tracker. I want to play with both... Now! ;)

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Excellent!
by Tyr. on Tue 14th Feb 2006 19:19 UTC
Tyr.
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2005-07-06

Congrats to the Haiku team, and a big "haha" to all the nay-sayers who said the Haiku project would crash and burn.

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RE: Excellent!
by StephenBeDoper on Wed 15th Feb 2006 18:17 UTC in reply to "Excellent!"
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

You might want to save a bookmark for to the following article - should be fun to bring up around the time of the first official Haiku release ;)

http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=8114

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Join TeamHaiku distributed computing!
by umccullough on Tue 14th Feb 2006 19:30 UTC
umccullough
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2006-01-26

We're still trying to increase Haiku's awareness through Distributed Computing efforts. TeamHaiku on SoB is our largest team currently.

Visit the forum for more info:

http://www.haiku-os.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=29

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Could this mean....
by Omega Penguin on Tue 14th Feb 2006 19:59 UTC
Omega Penguin
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2006-02-12

The end of ZetaOS when Haiku is finished?

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RE: Could this mean....
by Ford Prefect on Tue 14th Feb 2006 20:08 UTC in reply to "Could this mean...."
Ford Prefect Member since:
2006-01-16

I doubt that. If YellowTab is still operating then, they could make a distribution out of it and sell it to their evolved customer/distributor base.

Perhaps Haiku could get the only reason for them to stay alive ;) It is very difficult to maintain such an outdated OS with such a small team to be really competitable to other OSes. Haiku could help them a lot with that.

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RE: Could this mean....
by miscz on Tue 14th Feb 2006 21:07 UTC in reply to "Could this mean...."
miscz Member since:
2005-07-17

They can always sue them for some made up reason ;)

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Haiku
by TaterSalad on Tue 14th Feb 2006 21:41 UTC
TaterSalad
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2005-07-06

Happy Valentines Day, Haiku! Ooooh how I love you ;)

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With pride and with progress!
by Luposian on Wed 15th Feb 2006 00:55 UTC
Luposian
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2005-07-27

When the stability issues were largely solved, at least insofar that I was literally unable to cause Haiku to freeze or KP (Kernel Panic), no matter what I did, I finally felt like I was kinda using BeOS again. And it seems, now that that hurdle has been passed, progress in other areas is progressing faster and faster every day!

The current issue that bothers me most is the "Mount lockup" bug. If you have Pulse running, you'll see, as soon as you go to "Mount", CPU usage immediate ramps up to 100% (at least on my 1Ghz Athlon system) and everything just crawls and basically falls apart from that point on. I think that, since Mount isn't even available, the menu option should just be greyed out and ignored completely, not cause Haiku (or at least Tracker) to go into a runaway CPU condition.

But, I say, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if we had a fairly usable Alpha by the 2nd quarter and a really stable, usable Beta by the 3rd quarter of this year.

Keep up the good work, Haiku! You guys rock!

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Screen preferences now saveable!
by Luposian on Wed 15th Feb 2006 02:25 UTC
Luposian
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2005-07-27

As of the Haiku build I just downloaded (1639x), I can now save my screen preferences! I rebooted and my setting of 1024x768 @ 75Hz was still there! No more 800x600 @ 60Hz anymore! YEAH!!!

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Haiku
by hhcv on Wed 15th Feb 2006 13:45 UTC
hhcv
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2005-11-12

An awesome system
More progress everyday now
Looking much better

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Sexy
by aliquis on Thu 16th Feb 2006 01:34 UTC
aliquis
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2005-07-23

Nice with more alternative OSes, and to see that they are still alive.

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first time
by axel on Thu 16th Feb 2006 03:53 UTC
axel
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2006-02-04

well this is the first time i've ever really tried a Be.
while i can't say anything about apps, general system performance yet i must say tracker is a nice piece of software and querying is remarkably painless.
the ability to right click and explore the file contents really helps with the spacial browsing and the right click menu in general is nice and complete. saving queries and moving them aroun is also really nice and easy.
i definiely see why this has a speial place in peoples hearts

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glued on?
by JohnMG on Thu 16th Feb 2006 04:08 UTC
JohnMG
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2005-07-06

So, is this all Haiku code? Or is it still BeOS with multiple pieces pulled out and replaced with Haiku pieces?

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RE: glued on?
by umccullough on Thu 16th Feb 2006 05:05 UTC in reply to "glued on?"
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

It is all "Haiku" code.

The kernel is a branch of the NewOS kernel, the "shell" is the open-source OpenTracker project (open-sourced by Be, Inc. many years ago - and maintained by the primary kernel developer of Haiku himself)

The servers (app_server, media_server, etc.) were all re-created from scratch. Many of the visual blemishes you see are a result of the re-creation of app_server which is still in progress. As you can see, much of the OS is usable!

The apps you see are re-creations of standard BeOS apps.

Since the OS is source AND binary compatible, many existing BeOS apps run without recompiling.

Edited 2006-02-16 05:07

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