Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 27th Feb 2006 23:40 UTC, submitted by FreeBSDWorld.NET
OpenBSD "That's it for 3.9! Tree locks are upon us so unless something critical breaks, nothing will go in anymore. For me and Jordan this means to stop ACPI development until the tree is unlocked. So now it is of to test, test, test! That goes for you too; if you are reading this you should stop and install snapshots on as many machines and architectures as possible. We always appreciate test reports from folks in the field."
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Package management? Changelog?
by irbis on Tue 28th Feb 2006 01:12 UTC
irbis
Member since:
2005-07-08

AFAIK, OpenBSD is trying to improve its package and ports management, making, for example, upgrading OpenBSD much faster and handier. What is the state of that development process?

(Btw, where can I read what improvements 3.9 will have compared to 3.8 and earlier releases?)

Edited 2006-02-28 01:22

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broken_symlink Member since:
2005-07-06

http://www.openbsd.com/plus.html

guess where it came from? ^^

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irbis Member since:
2005-07-08

Ah, thanks for the link. There they talk about the package management too:

"Many pkg_add(1) improvements including -u option enabled now which automatically will update all installed packages."

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DevL Member since:
2005-07-06

Hey, that's sweet! One of the few things I find lacking about OpenBSD is actually being taken care of! :-)

Here's hoping that OpenBSD eventually will have a good, solid package management system with search capabilities.

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Archite Member since:
2006-01-14

There are two ways in which one can search for packages. Download the packages index at ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/3.8/packages/i386/index.txt. The second option is to install the ports and use `make search name=appname`. Although this is not the most convenient method for searching for packages, at least it works ;)

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3.9 support for Xen?
by Organic_Info on Tue 28th Feb 2006 13:32 UTC
Organic_Info
Member since:
2006-02-28

Does anyone know if there is support for Xen in 3.9? A cursory search of the website reveals nothing.

Xen support would be ideal for testing allowing far more people to provide feedback and bug reports with out the need for more hardware resources.

Oh well perhaps a download of VMWare is required (for those on supported platforms).

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RE: 3.9 support for Xen?
by DevL on Tue 28th Feb 2006 14:05 UTC in reply to "3.9 support for Xen?"
DevL Member since:
2005-07-06

Well, 3.8 installs just fine under QEMU (Q really - a Mac OS X port of QEMU) so that's an alternative if you don't want to use VMware.

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RE: 3.9 support for Xen?
by kamper on Tue 28th Feb 2006 20:26 UTC in reply to "3.9 support for Xen?"
kamper Member since:
2005-08-20

Does anyone know if there is support for Xen in 3.9? A cursory search of the website reveals nothing.

I hit up the mailing list archives a while ago for this. Don't think it's gonna happen, just because nobody is stepping forward with code. I figure it'll never come around because intel and amd will be through with the required hardware support before the problem gets pressing enough.

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RE[2]: 3.9 support for Xen?
by Archite on Wed 1st Mar 2006 00:02 UTC in reply to "RE: 3.9 support for Xen?"
Archite Member since:
2006-01-14

I very much doubt that Xen will ever be ported to OpenBSD. It has been expressed that there is to be no GNU code in the kernel. So, those who want Xen might have to stick with NetBSD or Linux.

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RE[3]: 3.9 support for Xen?
by koen on Wed 1st Mar 2006 13:08 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: 3.9 support for Xen?"
koen Member since:
2005-11-15

NetBSD is ported to the latest version of Xen and FreeBSD is actively working on it too. I took a quick look at NetBSD's code, and everything under src/sys/xen seems to be under a BSD-license - did they rewrote Xen entirely, or are these just the changes they made to their own code and is the core of Xen not in their tree?

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RE[4]: 3.9 support for Xen?
by Archite on Wed 1st Mar 2006 21:51 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: 3.9 support for Xen?"
Archite Member since:
2006-01-14

This I cannot tell you. I do no actively use NetBSD nor FreeBSD. I know that Xen's source is GPL though.

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RE: 3.9 support for Xen?
by Soulbender on Wed 1st Mar 2006 05:09 UTC in reply to "3.9 support for Xen?"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

"Does anyone know if there is support for Xen in 3.9?"
There isn't.

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AWESOME!
by ZaNkY on Tue 28th Feb 2006 16:06 UTC
ZaNkY
Member since:
2005-10-18

This is great news! I can't wait to try it. I love it when a project keeps going forward and innovating and doing real progress. I haven't seen a list that big of changes in a distro in a while. Very comforting ;)

--ZaNkY

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PowerPC
by Gunblade on Tue 28th Feb 2006 18:14 UTC
Gunblade
Member since:
2005-07-21

Do they have a ppc distro? I am learning/using my first unix os or BSD or whatever you want to call it. With NetBSD on my apple G3 computer...still in the whole booting stage part >_<" It's been rough.

But if there is an IRC channel for real time help; and some documentation on how to install it on a G3 w/openfirmware prompt 3.1.1 I would try it out.

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RE: PowerPC
by kamper on Tue 28th Feb 2006 20:30 UTC in reply to "PowerPC"
kamper Member since:
2005-08-20

Do they have a ppc distro? I am learning/using my first unix os or BSD or whatever you want to call it. With NetBSD on my apple G3 computer...still in the whole booting stage part >_<" It's been rough.

But if there is an IRC channel for real time help; and some documentation on how to install it on a G3 w/openfirmware prompt 3.1.1 I would try it out.


http://www.openbsd.org/plat.html

I don't mean to be nasty, but come on, it's a prominent link right off the main page.

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Xen support
by ghen on Wed 1st Mar 2006 15:07 UTC
ghen
Member since:
2005-08-31

NetBSD is ported to the latest version of Xen and FreeBSD is actively working on it too. I took a quick look at NetBSD's code, and everything under src/sys/xen seems to be under a BSD-license - did they rewrote Xen entirely, or are these just the changes they made to their own code and is the core of Xen not in their tree?

The Xen kernel is GPL-licensed and is not part of NetBSD (nor FreeBSD or Linux). You need to install it as a package. The NetBSD-on-Xen bits are part of the kernel, and are of course BSD-licensed.

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