Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 5th Mar 2006 21:31 UTC, submitted by Alexandre GUY
Debian and its clones Euronode released a web site which allows users to build pre-configured Debian GNU/Linux servers, tailor-made for their exact needs. Users can follow a simple web-based wizard to choose services (web, mail, database, samba, etc.), and options. Once done, the web site will generate a bootable .iso image, with all configuration and server parameters already set up.
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Google Pack
by yoursecretninja on Sun 5th Mar 2006 21:57 UTC
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2006-01-02

This concept reminds me of Google Pack. I think this is a great idea for linux distros as it saves end-users from downloading large files containing packages they will never use. This way, you can cut down on download size a bit.

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This is moronic
by sbnet on Sun 5th Mar 2006 22:03 UTC
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2006-03-05

I checked it out, and at 404 euros, this is idiotic. People shouldn't be so lazy. Especially when there are projects like SLAX which could do this free..with a lot more flexability. Amazing the things people think of just to scrape some money

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RE: This is moronic
by Babi Asu on Mon 6th Mar 2006 00:50 UTC in reply to "This is moronic"
Babi Asu Member since:
2006-02-11

If this given out for free, someday the number of Linux distro will surpass the number of Linux user.

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RE[2]: This is moronic
by smitty_one_each on Mon 6th Mar 2006 01:11 UTC in reply to "RE: This is moronic"
smitty_one_each Member since:
2005-07-07

You're paying for the service. Accusing someone of being moronic for using such is like hammering an algebra student for not grasping differential equations.
If someone can run a business doing this, then more power to them.

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License
by Axentrix on Sun 5th Mar 2006 22:04 UTC
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2005-12-16

Hm, nice, but i don't like licenses.. ;)

I guess you can download the trial, 30 days evalution shit and boot up a livecd, chroot into the system and remove the lock?

source:
https://euronode.com/Screenshots/IntranetMailServer/mailserver5.png/...

Edited 2006-03-05 22:05

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silly
by kamper on Mon 6th Mar 2006 00:12 UTC
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2005-08-20

This seems like it would be an interesting convenience if it were free (althought it would be a bit of a crutch). Obviously though, it's impractical to do for free.

But offering it as a paid service is asinine. A far better product would be configuration/management tools that actually ran on your own box. (I didn't see anything about pricing, I'm just going with the 404 quoted above).

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hkl8324
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2006-01-01

The total with taxes is 205.00 euros.

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A door opener for some
by billnvd on Mon 6th Mar 2006 03:12 UTC
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2006-02-04

Everyone seems to be missing the point here. Sure, it's a pay service. People pay for things that make their life easier. Someone new to linux and needing a quick/easy setup, this could be ideal.

I am trying a basic File Server(30 day trial).

If I was in the market for a server and was not familiar with linux, I would consider this. Hell, you would pay someone several hundred to load and configure a server for you. 300 Bucks is not outrageous if it works as they say.

Not everyone wants to break out vi and start tweaking.

It's kinda interesting I think.

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hmm
by spikeb on Mon 6th Mar 2006 03:22 UTC
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2006-01-18

something like this for not just servers would be interesting, as well. basically LFS on demand, done for you. hehe.

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Couldn't you just
by Omega Penguin on Mon 6th Mar 2006 03:29 UTC
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2006-02-12

remaster Slax.I did that,and the result is a Linux distro by the name or Tragix.

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Not such a good deal.
by kernelpanicked on Mon 6th Mar 2006 03:58 UTC
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2006-02-01

I ran through a quick LAMP setup in this thing and the resulting price was over $400. That's four hundred bucks for a Debian system (eww) with three months of "mail" support (they didn't even specify Email. This could be snail mail for all I know). If I were going to run a Linux system and needed support, I would drop a $100 for RedHat with a year of Live support from guys that know Linux and don't have a site full of spelling errors.

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RE: Not such a good deal.
by Jack Malmostoso on Mon 6th Mar 2006 10:07 UTC in reply to "Not such a good deal."
Jack Malmostoso Member since:
2006-01-20

I am starting to be quite nervous about these "leenoks for dummies" server setups.
In Usenet and forums I happen to read more and more messages of people starting with "I have to setup a linux server with this and that", and generally it's people who have no clue of linux, or even worse with IT consultant companies in their signatures or email addresses.

I think a lot of badly configured linux servers will pop out in the next few months, and this will not look very good. Get the facts anyone?

Setting up a Debian server is quite easy, when you have a little bit of experience with linux. I think you don't really need to pay 400EUR to have an iso: the Debian netinstall and debconf are more than enough (especially since looks like the "wizard" on the website is nothing more than debconf questions).

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RE[2]: Not such a good deal.
by moleskine on Mon 6th Mar 2006 10:57 UTC in reply to "RE: Not such a good deal."
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2005-11-05

Setting up a Debian server is quite easy, when you have a little bit of experience with linux. I think you don't really need to pay 400EUR to have an iso

Especially since there is quite a lot of help out there on the net or in books. A fraction of 400 Euros would buy a couple of good how-to books. A good site (imho) for helping to set up Debian as a server is http://www.debian-administration.org/
which is run by a Debian dev. Lots of helpful tips on there.

If the Euronode site's wizard really is just recycling Debconf questions then the whole thing sounds pretty cheeky.

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RE[3]: Not such a good deal.
by skx2 on Mon 6th Mar 2006 12:40 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Not such a good deal."
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2005-07-06

I run that site and I'll setup a server for only 200 ;)

Personally I think that this is an expensive service, but I can see why they would want to charge for it. I think it would be nice to be able to buy the software upon the server and use it internally.

That would allow you to install any number of new Linux servers on-demand. That would be ideal for people running ISPs, etc, who don't already use something like FAI/SystemImager/Ghost.

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aside from the price, the idea is good
by bonjour on Mon 6th Mar 2006 12:36 UTC
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2005-07-12

this is as close to lfs as you will get, except you don't have to do much work and it's based on debian.

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Regardless
by NixerX on Mon 6th Mar 2006 14:14 UTC
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2006-01-04

Its still a cool idea! Lets see were it takes things in a year or two.
-nX

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Great Idea... errr....
by MikeekiM on Mon 6th Mar 2006 14:46 UTC
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2005-11-16

Would have been a great idea had the price been say: 9.99.

Where's Steve when you REALLY need him?

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nope
by tomaspollak on Mon 6th Mar 2006 16:25 UTC
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2006-03-06

definitely not a good deal. there are lots of new distro installers with the same user-friendlyness... at cero price.

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This would be cool if it allowed more.
by Edward on Mon 6th Mar 2006 18:35 UTC
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2005-09-17

Like if it let you do anytype of system you wanted like LFS, but no programing knolege needed. I would love to do my own desktop system that way.

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Another web service...
by thlayli on Tue 7th Mar 2006 17:29 UTC
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2006-03-07

There's another web service out there, called rBuilder Online at http://www.rpath.com/ (you have to click on the rBuilder Online logo in the upper-right) -- it lets you build a much more granular system based on individual packages...you can also create VMware player images, and QEMU images as well as installable ISOs. It's quite a bit more powerful than Euronode because you have much more control of the packages you can select.

Edit: I just noticed that Euronode costs 100 EUR per image...yikes! rBuilder Online is free...

Edited 2006-03-07 17:31

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