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Learn what a troll is , donate to OpenBSd too , a troll is not someone who you disagree with , its someone tottaly of subject most often anonymous who tottaly change the entire discussion and topic to something else , its actually really rare to see a troll.

I am on subject , using my real life name and laughing my ass off that BSD dont care about there own project and dont support it. No company does either.

Learn this simple phrase : I disagree ,

"No, it was a Troll"

Another one who really dont know what a troll is ...

"You brought up the concept of converting a BSD licensed programme to the GPL"

No. The BSD allow me to do that anytime , its a traitor protection clause. I whas merely Taunting and showing the fact that very few people are need to send money for such an amount.

"the very opposite of what the BSDs do."

No. The BSD and GPL are very similar exept for the thief and traitor effect and lack of protected freedom.

"You alluded to the concept that more people would support the project financially if it didn't have the core goals that it does. "

No , I said would they accept a license switch in order to get 100k , GNU/Linux people are not advert in buying and liberating proprietary code in order to making it GPL. Not that BSD is proprietary code. It might give an insentive to you know , the people who pay for all the GPL software and nothing else.

"You also implied that only the BSDs share some sort of responsibility to help OpenSSH continue"

No I dont imply it , cant be more clear then that ,its one of your product , it bears your name have you no shame in letting it slide to such a low level of support ? Show some solidarity , and some cash , for once!

"last I checked every Linux distribution uses it."

Include it. We include tons of stuff , doesnt mean we have to support it since it dont support our idea's and dont bear our flags.

We have too many supported projects and company , you guys cant even support one of your leading projects ...

shame , shame , shame.

"It's a very blatant troll"

A troll is not someone who differ in opinion with you , the subject I discuss is still OpenBSD and its financing. I just proposed the honorable GPL way , intead of your already travelled Thievery , lying and traitoring way that obviously dont pay. Its a shame because its really good code that is made unusable by choice rather then thecnical merits.

"to anyone following OpenBSD."

There are any ? Why arent they all contributing financially to there own project ?

"Just Google for OpenBSD + GPL ;-)"

Why would learning about the failure of the BSD's protection clause be of any value in a discussion about financing a project in order for it to survive ?

Your a stupid moron , here is why :

http://www.osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=14052&comment_id=106705

http://www.osnews.com/usercomments.php?uid=266

I am discussing financing , I , not you , suggested that offering it under the GPL will bring the missing money that you and everyone else in the OpenBSD project and all the BSD's related project and company using it fail to provide , because frankly your all mouth and nothing else.

If we pay we decide on the condition , not you. otherwise those that whant to help will or like in my case already did.

Its as simple as that. Now , coward it whas my last post replying to you on this subject under this topic. Unless the project annonce they have met there goal or that you covered the missing hundred of thousand missing out of your own pocket , my offer to contribute more money to a GPL version still stands.

Have a nice day.

Why would someone ( You ) who dont know the meaning of words and its signification be of any value to its validation and understanding ? Youv'e never met a zealot in your life , if you did youwould never label me as one.

"I disagree, and so does Wikipedia."

And according to wikipedia you would be right , exept your wrong because that page is tottaly innacurate and useless , anyone who does anything someone else dont like can be labelled a troll , thats like saying *thats Hot* to everything. I will stick with my version which predate that thing from 20 years. Its one of those words that as lost its meaning with some innacurate people and wikipedia it seems.

"At least half of your posts on this forum contain the following: "

No , but then you have this to confirm your wrong :

http://www.osnews.com/usercomments.php?uid=266

" ex. Your liberal use of ad hominem attacks. "

I aint liberal about it.

" ex. Your claims of 20+% GNU/Linux desktop share with no stated source for such information. "

I sign all my text , you mean you need a confirmation that my numbers are accurate as you dont believe me , thats your problem.

" ex. (Non-open source developers) are liars, thieves, and traitors. "

No , I never said that , I said those that close Open Source code using traitor Open source license that permits closing are liars , thieve and traitor to the open Source cause and are not equal in anyway to the Free software developper. I guess you read and understand what you feel like from my text. I am pretty stuborn and stick to the same point unless someone proove me wrong. ( see wikipedia internet troll above , I admit being wrong with that definition of a troll ) I also say that Open Source is crap as it created IT but allowed it to become closed compared to free software.

" ex. Too many to count."

I dont feign innocence , never did never will.

http://www.osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=14052&comment_id=106464

Read the above post , I talked about financial and asked question , I would have used !!!!! If I would have been flaming , its a post intended to make people contribute. If only 1$ whent to OpenBSD because someone disliked my post and wanted to show me I whas wrong , guess what , that whas my Intent , shake people into action.

"You honestly may not think you are trolling but you definitely are"

No I aint , I also agree to disagree with you on that one.

"You simply ... be flamebait for the BSD crowd"

Yes , it was flamebait , not trolling , it whas more with an intent to piss people into donating then to create a discussion on license change or dual licensing.

"is moot because it clashes with the direct statements in the final paragraph of the source."

Its better to retreat and save your people then die defending an undefendable position , as loosing a battle and position is less important then winning the war and bringing your people home.

In other words if it bring you guys 100k + to dual license it under the GPL , then your stupid not to do it. In my view saving the developper and the project and making hackatons is more important then what license to use as the license dont forbide anyone from using it.

have a nice day.

Yes.

I aint a prick as I aint the stupid one , I aint a troll as I aint of subject you are.

No most of the BSD crowds did not respond at all , look at you did you send 10 000 $ ?

There is no cult , Free Software is sadly a direct answer to the closing of Open Source code , usual thievery and lack of protected freedom and rights in BSD's directly.

Its not a philosophical view , everything is real. BSD people dont pay , dont contribute , dont make company to support there product and view , they creat company to screw everyone else out *because its allowed* ( APPLE and Microsoft are company based on BSD ).

OpenBSD is an OS without its own hardware , without paying user , without a community of paying customers and it as no club , no income and is always on the brink of oblivion because there is not that many contributor to it.

Its as simple as that.

Why are you so stupid ?

http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=13956

No GPL comment.

http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=13948

No GPL comment.

http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=13751

No GPL comment.

Which means that your a very stupid liar and moron.

I know that Open Source advocate should not help out at all as BSD is a traitor license that can be made closed source. Until they make the minimum effort of making a dual license offer.

Why dont they help it then ? Or its just a fabricated lies you tell yourself in order not to face reality.