Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 24th Mar 2006 21:28 UTC
Mac OS X Exactly five years ago, 24th March 2001, Apple officially launched its new operating system, Mac OS X, the highly anticipated (and highly needed) successor to Mac OS 9. From the official press release: "Apple today announced that beginning this Saturday, March 24, customers can buy Mac OS X in retail stores around the world. Mac OS X is the world's most advanced operating system, combining the power and openness of UNIX with the legendary ease of use and broad applications base of Macintosh."
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Enough OS 9 bashing!
by mini-me on Fri 24th Mar 2006 21:36 UTC
mini-me
Member since:
2005-07-06

I for one enjoyed MacOS 9!
I think that MacOS X 10.0, and 10.1 were awful!
I bought 10.0 and tried 10,1- never used them...

10.2 was a turning point which 10.2 sort of started being better than OS9

The technologies proposed for copland were pretty cool, openDOC was nice, and things that died were good - too bad - but lets not pretend that 10.0 was the best thing since sliced bread!

edit: sorry I thought that a link to this was posted: http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/osx-fiveyears.ars

Edited 2006-03-24 21:38

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RE: Enough OS 9 bashing!
by kadymae on Fri 24th Mar 2006 21:59 UTC in reply to "Enough OS 9 bashing!"
kadymae Member since:
2005-08-02

I for one enjoyed MacOS 9!

Heh. Last night as part of troubleshooting a CMS I have to use I had to swap the OS9 drive back into my PowerMac.

Aieee ... the horror, the horror. Opera 6. IE 5.1

(Compounded by the fact that my 2 button logitec scroll wheel mouse didn't work properly.)

10.2 was a turning point which 10.2 sort of started being better than OS9

Eh, I always liked X better than 9, but 10.2 was the point where it really started to be as polished as 9 was.

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RE[2]: Enough OS 9 bashing!
by Zoidberg on Fri 24th Mar 2006 22:54 UTC in reply to "Enough OS 9 bashing!"
Zoidberg Member since:
2006-02-11

I like the interface for OS 9 much better; never could stand the fruity glass nonsense in OS X or that stupid dock. As far as stability and multitasking OS X wins hands down though.

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RE[3]: Enough OS 9 bashing!
by bytecoder on Fri 24th Mar 2006 22:58 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Enough OS 9 bashing!"
bytecoder Member since:
2005-11-27

Agreed. The OS X user interface sucks.

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RE[4]: Enough OS 9 bashing!
by someone on Sat 25th Mar 2006 05:57 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Enough OS 9 bashing!"
someone Member since:
2006-01-12

You could always use graphite...

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RE[3]: Enough OS 9 bashing!
by kaiwai on Sat 25th Mar 2006 09:59 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Enough OS 9 bashing!"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

http://www.guidebookgallery.org/screenshots/macosxdp1

I liked that GUI, along with the original MacOS X 1.0 Server, which was released before the client 10.0 version. Then again, for people such as you and I, we're technical and don't get wrapped up in whether the GUI looks sexy, but the fact is, Apple's focus is on the mainstream computer use who squirts with excitement when they see something pretty and shiney.

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RE: Enough OS 9 bashing!
by hobgoblin on Sat 25th Mar 2006 03:12 UTC in reply to "Enough OS 9 bashing!"
hobgoblin Member since:
2005-07-06

i have read some stuff about copland. some of the plans sounded interesting from a tech standpoint.

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I was there - to pick up my copy!
by MacGod on Fri 24th Mar 2006 22:01 UTC
MacGod
Member since:
2006-03-24

I was there that night, to pick up my copy of Mac OS X and I got mine signed by Steve Wozniak who was in attendance with his children.

Very nice.. I still have the box with his sig!

Bill

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5 years old?
by zephc on Fri 24th Mar 2006 22:19 UTC
zephc
Member since:
2005-07-06

"I am 16 going on 17" :-)

"NEXTSTEP 1.0 shipped on September 18, 1989" according to http://www.guidebookgallery.org/guis/nextstep/nextstep1

Despite being radically different today, I think it's fair to call OS X a continuation of NS rather than a whole new OS.

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RE: 5 years old?
by cr8dle2grave on Fri 24th Mar 2006 23:11 UTC in reply to "5 years old?"
cr8dle2grave Member since:
2005-07-11

Quite fair, I think. It evolved out of the NextStep code base.

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Nicer...
by JustAnotherMacUser on Fri 24th Mar 2006 23:19 UTC
JustAnotherMacUser
Member since:
2006-01-08

Mac OS X is a breath of fresh air compared to anything else out there.

However, I'm not too pleased with it's security over these last several years. A lot of the exploits seems to come because Apple didn't sit down and figure out "how can this feature be used maliciously?"

Here we were priding ourselves on Mac OS X's compartmentalized security and a simple URL Handler or Meta file exploit roots our machines.

I personally will not buy another Apple product until there is a proven track record of security again. I got away from Windows because of the headaches, I'm not repeating that again. If it don't work, I don't buy it.

By the way, here is a video of Steve Jobs demoing the NeXT operating system, it's nice to see what's made it to Mac OS X and see what's been left out.

http://www.esm.psu.edu/Faculty/Gray/graphics/movies/jobs_NS30_demo_...

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RE: Nicer...
by Angel--Fr@gzill@ on Sat 25th Mar 2006 07:03 UTC in reply to "Nicer..."
Angel--Fr@gzill@ Member since:
2005-12-23

!!!

--- "I personally will not buy another Apple product until there is a proven track record of security again. I got away from Windows because of the headaches, I'm not repeating that again. If it don't work, I don't buy it."

---

You are Absolutly right, guy, TIME to MOVE to Linux or BSD, or Syllable, or Menuet... ;)

Angel--Fr@gzill@

!!!

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OS9
by poundsmack on Fri 24th Mar 2006 23:55 UTC
poundsmack
Member since:
2005-07-13

i iwhs apple would open source OS9, not that i think it would have a huge following as the code is probly totaly unmaintainable. but it would be neet to see

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Macintosh
by Kroc on Sat 25th Mar 2006 00:19 UTC
Kroc
Member since:
2005-11-10

Most
Applications
Crash,
If
Not
The
Operating
System
Hangs

Happy Birthyday OSX, you were the right thing to do, even if you were not ready to begin with at the time.

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RE: Macintosh
by Angel--Fr@gzill@ on Sat 25th Mar 2006 07:26 UTC in reply to "Macintosh"
Angel--Fr@gzill@ Member since:
2005-12-23

!!!!

LOL... guy, I did not know it... very funny!

Althought it seems that some MacAddicts have taken your joke seriously... LOL

Actually it does not crash too much (I did it crash once, in a G4 of my ex girlfriend who is an illustrator, when trying to install "PSy" and VideoLan-VCL, also some Fink ports... We started quarreling for anything after that... We broke up 2 months later ... LOL.), and its is the nicest out there, but a bit slow in my view...

Angel--Fr@gzilla

P.S. Never get your hands in the Apple Mac of your girl, above all if she is an artist, illustrator etc
They know "nothing" about computers, neither they have interest in knowing about them.... They just use it cause is cute and helps them to make their pretty design and stuff...
Macs and women get along well, though... both are well designed, intend to be cute, and are meant not to be touched more than necessary... Besides they protect each other ...!!!!!

!!!!

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RE: Macintosh
by Angel--Fr@gzill@ on Sat 25th Mar 2006 09:05 UTC in reply to "Macintosh"
Angel--Fr@gzill@ Member since:
2005-12-23

!!!!

Well, i just managed to improve it by chance...

"Apple Macintosh"

Absolute Pitiful Perverse Light Electronics
Most Applications Crash,If Not The Operating System Hangs

;)

- Can anyone tell me anything similar for LINUX, BSD, and above all for WIndows...

If you do not know it you can be creative and try to invent something like that, and post it here...

Not only in English, it can be also in French, Spanish etc!

the silliest, the best...

Yeah, I know... But I have nothing better to do in this Saturday morning... ;) And I plan to give it ausefull purpose...

!!!

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RE[2]: Macintosh
by JohnOne on Sat 25th Mar 2006 13:46 UTC in reply to "RE: Macintosh"
JohnOne Member since:
2006-03-25

"- Can anyone tell me anything similar for LINUX, BSD, and above all for WIndows... "

If "GNU" is "Gnu Not Unix", "LINUX" is "L'Idiota Non Usa uniX" (Italian for "The idiot doesn't use Unix").

Do you like it?

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RE[3]: Macintosh
by Angel--Fr@gzill@ on Sat 25th Mar 2006 14:34 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Macintosh"
Angel--Fr@gzill@ Member since:
2005-12-23

!!!

Molto bene, caro amico Giovanni.
Te ringrazio!!!

Ancora un altro per Windows ??

!!!

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RE[4]: Macintosh
by Arakon on Sat 25th Mar 2006 15:05 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Macintosh"
Arakon Member since:
2005-07-06

WINDOWS

When Idiots Need a Dumb Obese Warped System.

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RE[5]: Macintosh
by vikramsharma on Sat 25th Mar 2006 15:24 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Macintosh"
vikramsharma Member since:
2005-07-06

nice one

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RE[5]: Macintosh
by Angel--Fr@gzill@ on Sat 25th Mar 2006 19:56 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Macintosh"
Angel--Fr@gzill@ Member since:
2005-12-23

!!!

Not bad ... ;)

!!!

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RE[5]: Macintosh
by Tyr. on Sun 26th Mar 2006 10:30 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Macintosh"
Tyr. Member since:
2005-07-06

WINDOWS

When Idiots Need a Dumb Obese Warped System.


My
Intel
Computer
Runs
On
Software
Often
Failing
Totally

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RE[6]: Macintosh
by Angel--Fr@gzill@ on Sun 26th Mar 2006 18:16 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Macintosh"
Angel--Fr@gzill@ Member since:
2005-12-23

!!!

Yep, good too ... ;)

!!!

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RE[4]: Macintosh
by JohnOne on Sat 25th Mar 2006 21:42 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Macintosh"
JohnOne Member since:
2006-03-25

"Ancora un altro per Windows ??"

And BSD? It's a "BaStarD" son of Unix! :-D

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RE[5]: Macintosh
by Angel--Fr@gzill@ on Sun 26th Mar 2006 18:15 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Macintosh"
Angel--Fr@gzill@ Member since:
2005-12-23

!!!

Good ... ;)

!!!

Reply Score: 1

tiger
by sp29 on Sat 25th Mar 2006 05:19 UTC
sp29
Member since:
2006-01-04

OS 9 was great but crashed a lot, remember the bomb icon? I think there was, I haven't used it in 5 years though..lol I really like X.

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RE: tiger
by BlackJack75 on Sat 25th Mar 2006 09:09 UTC in reply to "tiger"
BlackJack75 Member since:
2005-08-29

I just can't stop laughing remember my local macheads at the time saying "PCs suck with windows 98 because applications crash and you get weird messages on a blue screen. On the opposite my mac on OS8 NEVER crashes... at worst you get some nice-looking bombs."

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I had the beta version of OS X 10.0...
by Tuishimi on Sat 25th Mar 2006 06:58 UTC
Tuishimi
Member since:
2005-07-06

...and then, of course, OS X 10.0 when it was released. I used it, but would switch between that PC and another running BeOS of all things. When 10.1 came out, it got better, faster, then 10.2. It's been my more-or-less fulltime OS for a couple of years now. I often wish OPENSTEP continued on in parallel. It was "purer" in a sense.

But you cannot knock the fantastic graphics of this OS, it really is stunning in person. Screenshots don't do it justice. But they have mucked with the look at every release, which bugs me somewhat. I was actually very happy with 10.1/10.2. The latest versions... I dunno. Not sure what they have been thinking with the brushed finder and the unified title bar and toolbar. I actually kind of like the unified look, but I still don't like the brushed metal stuff.

Stability-wise... I am super pleased. Application availability... Eh. Some things (development tools) could be better. I AM happy with all the freeware and shareware tools that are available. There are a lot more than I ever expected 5 years ago! And they are of pretty good quality, too.

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tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

Hang in there Tuishimi. Once Carbon is gutted from OS X you'll feel that Openstep pureness return.

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RE: justanothermacuser
by Matt24 on Sat 25th Mar 2006 09:05 UTC
Matt24
Member since:
2005-07-23

You are a pathetic lier. Typical MS user, having a difficult time to justify a NON operating system.

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RE[2]: justanothermacuser
by Kroc on Sat 25th Mar 2006 11:33 UTC in reply to "RE: justanothermacuser"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

I'm a Mac user myself. OS9 was very unstable and prone to crashing. OSX wasn't. However, I don't go jumping to conclusions at the drop of the hat; you might want to sort that out.

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two cents
by siraf72 on Sat 25th Mar 2006 09:22 UTC
siraf72
Member since:
2006-02-22

I preffered 8.6 to 9 as in my experience it was far more stable. It seemed to me 9 was a necessary evil to make the transition to X easier.

10.0 was pretty bad but you could see the potential. also, I remember I was stunned by the speed at which shareware and freeware apps were being written for os 10.0. Every release has gone from strength to strength.

I really do miss two features though from the pre Os X days. 1 - the way windows automaticly turned into tabs when dragged them to the bottom of the screen. 2 - the ability to have icons act as buttons.

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