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As noted in the column by Paul Ferrill yesterday, Novell has made the "decision to use a common code base for all supported versions of the operating system." Mr. Ferrill explains some of the reasons why this is a good idea.

What may not be noted in that column is the simple fact that with that decision came the inevitable difficulties involved in making certain that the desktop version, which is an openSUSE derivative, has the ability to run everything that the server version runs. Novell is hoping that the work involved will be a short-term investment that has long-term results.

If you weren't aware, openSUSE 10.1 was actually fairly mature after the first few alphas, but because of the desire for a common code base, some things were changed that extended the testing period.

Regardless of the name, openSUSE 10.1 is actually only the second version to come out of the more open community process. I felt like FC2 was a nightmare to use compared to other distro's at the time, but openSUSE 10.1 looks like it's going to be quite solid in spite of changes made. Why do so many people feel the need to complain about a delay of one or two months. Its' not like we're going to have to wait until 2007 to see a finished product.

Awww, it was just a lil' joke.

I agree w/ you that SuSE/Novell have an excellent product and I'm using 10.0 right now. The unified codebase is great because it means we'll get things like Xgl that are going into NLD. But, don't you think that nine public betas seems just a teensy bit excessive? Also, the other commenter is correct in that Novell really did promise that this release would be RC1, not Beta9.

<quote>Looks lke they added in 'Beta 9' before 'RC1', and extended the release schedule by about 10-14 days</quote>

True,
release date was sheduled at Apr the 12th.
Now it's the date for RC1 and the 10.1 final is sheduled at April the 25th.

http://en.opensuse.org/Roadmap

what is your machine to get a boot under 30 seconde?
i get 55 second with beta 8 with a amd 3000+64bits with 1gig ram

^^^^^^^^^^what is your machine to get a boot under 30 seconde?
i get 55 second with beta 8 with a amd 3000+64bits with 1gig ram^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I doubt that machine is set with auto-login enabled. Both KDE and GNOME still take too long to get going.

30 seconds = login screen only.

no auto login enable

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Fast boot under 30 seconds on my machine^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Is that just to a login screen, or is that with a full desktop(KDE/GNOME) going?

Also, does that include BIOS time?

is this what you look for?

No. That is the changlog for the 'extra' repository, NOT for SUSE as a whole.

What failure? 2006 is the year for Linux on the desktop!!!

Oh man, now you've jinxed it and we'll have to wait another year. Every year someone says, "year for linux on the desktop", market share flat lines.

Like who?, most Linux users dont like the idea of it getting market share, it's only new (we hate microsoft) users that entertain the idea really.

Atleast we have a upto date OS, not like WindowsXP is new techology is it and five years Vista has been coming.

I kid, I kid. Seems like every year is the year of desktop linux. We will win eventually but it will be a long creeping process rather than a sudden shift within any one year. More like decade of linux desktop.

I think we have already won. Linux cannot go away, (neither can the BSDs) and it is very usable for most day to day tasks. Everytime I boot my Linux or BSDs I am thankfull to all the people who contributed.

I think it's just great that people are willing to invest their time/money and whatnot to make life a little better for others.

Easy there with the comments, last time I made a comment like this I got modded down.

"The reason I ditched it for Kubuntu was slowness of both the system and of YaST"

I am running beta 9 and it is *a lot* faster than, for instance, 9.3.

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"SuSE is IMO a great distro. The reason I ditched it for Kubuntu was slowness of both the system and of YaST, nad the worthless package manager(part of YaST)"

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Well, I agree, SuSe is a great distro, and is not quick. Yast is worst than Apt-get. I hope than the new changes in Yast ans rpms systems will improve and speed that...

...but, ditching it for Ubuntu, because Suse is not quick???

!!! Ubuntu is not quick neither !!!

Ubuntu has great things, although I prefer SuSe. Is more polished and nicer, with better hardware detection too...But, I'm not sure wich one is slower...

So, it's your choice, of course, but is difficult to understand that anyone could switch from SuSe to Ubuntu looking for speedness!

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still, while i'm all in favour of delays to 10.1 that make it better, how did they manage to update Gnome from 2.12 to 2.14 (a worthy addition i might add), and yet fail to migrate KDE from 3.5.1. to 3.5.2.?


I suspect beta 9 was all about Gnome 2.14. From what I had heard from inside Novell, 2.14 wasn't going to make it this round. However, if they decided that they wanted 2.14 for SLES/SLED 10, then they would need to get it into SUSE 10.1 first. If there should happen to be a beta 10, maybe 3.5.2 will make it. If not, then you'll have to update to it later.

on the irc channel, developper said suse 10.1 will not include kde 3.5.2...

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Agree

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Have you ever even used it?

You, sir, are an idiot. Opensuse 10 happens to be the most stable operating system that I have ever used.

Since openSUSE is near identical to SUSE (and will be identical with the 10.1 release) we're talking about a system that is commercially supported by Novell, which makes it different than Fedora.

As for Fedora, I think it's pretty much in the same league as Ubuntu these days regarding stability. What I'd really call stable are Debian stable, RHEL, SLE{D,S}.

it already is.

It has a beautiful Gnome implementation and it looks like Mac OS X from some points of view.

"Does anyone know whether you can upgrade to the final release if you install a beta, or will you be required to reinstall it again?"

I wonder that too, someone knows?

You never had to reinstall Suse before. Why would you have to do it now? You used to be able to upgrade the installation with a new distro CD/DVD and I guess it'll work the same way with the next release. No reason to change this.