Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 10th Apr 2006 13:46 UTC, submitted by Kim Bergholtz
OSNews, Generic OSes The NeXT Information Archive is back. "NIA has evolved from being an information place to being the actual place for ALL NeXT related material; We provide you with information, guides, articles - yes, all the classic stuff, that you know us for - but we've also started to bring you software directly on our site. Help you on your way with learning programming and in general just bring resources to you everything needed for being able to use NeXT as your daily operating system and of course thereby using NeXT software."
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heh
by spikeb on Mon 10th Apr 2006 15:46 UTC
spikeb
Member since:
2006-01-18

be nice if more of these next nerds were helping out GNUstep and the like so we're not stuck with macs or a dead OS.

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RE: heh
by mumbler on Mon 10th Apr 2006 16:35 UTC in reply to "heh"
mumbler Member since:
2005-11-15

I could not agree more. As the owner of a PPC mac mini, I'd love to switch to GNUstep on OpenDarwin, or some other FOSS OS. My machine has lots of servicable years left, but I know that Tiger is as far as I will be able to go with Apple, and the patches and updates will dry up eventually.

With that said, I have yet to see a distribution of Linux or *BSD with GNUstep as the default wm for PPC.

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RE[2]: heh
by vondur on Mon 10th Apr 2006 17:18 UTC in reply to "RE: heh"
vondur Member since:
2005-07-07

I'm not sure why you think your PPC will not be supported with the next MacOS upgrade, but I am sure it will. If you wanted to try GNUstep I believe Debian has it in their repositories. (at least the i386 version does)

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RE[2]: heh
by henrikmk on Mon 10th Apr 2006 17:19 UTC in reply to "RE: heh"
henrikmk Member since:
2005-07-10

It's terrible because the momentum for GNUstep is much lower than it deserves. How can more interest be generated for the platform?

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RE[3]: heh
by spikeb on Mon 10th Apr 2006 19:43 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: heh"
spikeb Member since:
2006-01-18

amen and i second the question

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RE[4]: heh
by Jedd on Tue 11th Apr 2006 15:53 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: heh"
Jedd Member since:
2005-07-06

I too concur. Hallahjulah. :p
GNUStep is so fscking awesome.

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yay
by helf on Mon 10th Apr 2006 16:10 UTC
helf
Member since:
2005-07-06

pretty cool! I love my NeXT. Hopefully this'll prove useful...

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more interest in GNUstep!
by techlush on Mon 10th Apr 2006 18:23 UTC
techlush
Member since:
2006-03-30

i actually just setup a freeBSD box as a desktop machine this weekend. i didnt want to go wait 3 days to compile gnome/kde from ports not to mention im not all that fond of either of them. so i gave windowmaker a try which led me to try out gnustep too flesh out the rest of the desktop enviroment.

so far im finding that it is pretty nice! i just wish you could do something about the ugly grey look of all the GNUstep apps.

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Check this out
by wing on Mon 10th Apr 2006 19:10 UTC
wing
Member since:
2005-07-07

I found this a bit ago messing around looking for gnustep stuff:

http://www.etoile-project.org

They seem a bit ambitious, still, creating a cohesive environment that was consistent with the philosophy of GNUstep seems like a good idea, to me. This should definitely receive more interest.

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Re: more interest in GNUstep!
by michi on Mon 10th Apr 2006 19:16 UTC
michi
Member since:
2006-02-04

so far im finding that it is pretty nice! i just wish you could do something about the ugly grey look of all the GNUstep apps.

Actually you can do the following:
svn co svn://svn.gna.org/svn/etoile/trunk etoile

cd etoile/Etoile/Bundles/Camaelon
make
make install

The Cameleon theme engine is installed to:
$GNUSTEP_SYSTEM_ROOT/Library/Bundles/Camaelon.themeEngine

After that, you also need to tell GNUstep where to find the
theme bundle, so write :

defaults write NSGlobalDomain GSAppKitUserBundles '( "YourLocationTo/Camaelon.themeEngine" )'

create the directory
~/GNUstep/Library/Themes/ if it is not already there
download http://www.roard.com/Nesedah.theme.tgz to e.g. ~/gnustep
cd ~/GNUstep/Library/Themes/
tar xzf /home/michi/gnustep/Nesedah.theme.tgz
defaults write Camaelon Theme Nesedah

Here you can find some themes:
http://www.etoile-project.org/etoile/mediawiki/index.php?title=Cama...

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Re[4]: heh
by Seth Quarrier on Mon 10th Apr 2006 21:02 UTC
Seth Quarrier
Member since:
2005-11-13

I am too young to have known NeXT in all of its glory, but I do think that sites like this are important for current projects like GNUstep. I am a happy GNUstep user and (when I get around to learning Obj-C) would like to at some point contribute to the GNUstep comunity by writing my own GNUstep apps. I am not sure that I would ever have tried GNUstep, though, if I had not read about the NeXT and been curious about it, trying the next closest thing: GNUstep. Remembering NeXT emphasizes the power behind an architecture like GNUstep, while projects like GNUstep keep alive the NeXT way of doing things. In short there is a symbiotic relationship between them, and there is no point bashing either groups as they are both working to keep the NeXT alive.

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Ahh NeXT
by akro on Tue 11th Apr 2006 01:59 UTC
akro
Member since:
2005-07-06

My first real job was as an NT administrator for a customer moving from NeXT. They had the largest production NeXT environment. (8K seats or so) All I can say was that was first real intro to UNIX and I love NeXT. I remember actually working on NetInfo. NIreport NIpush... good fun....

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