Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 1st May 2006 10:36 UTC
OpenBSD OpenBSD 3.9 has now officially been released. Improvements were made accross the board. There's a detailed changelog, an errata page, and of course a download section. If you want to support OpenBSD, buy a CD set.
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v Unofficial 3.9 install ISO-s
by odnomzagi on Mon 1st May 2006 10:55 UTC
improvements I notice
by macisaac on Mon 1st May 2006 10:55 UTC
macisaac
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2005-08-28

three things that stick out as meaningful to me (though there's alot more changes than this): looks like improved mac support; _finally_ there's sound support on audigy cards... (mind you, I'm not currently using one so it's not quite the bane for me that it used to be, but still); plus, that part at the end of being able to update all your packages with a -u option looks interesting (though it's been a while since I've used OBSD, so I'm not sure how important/new that is)

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A thing of beauty
by OpenBSDer on Mon 1st May 2006 11:09 UTC
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2006-04-25

Just remotely upgraded my servers.
The package update improvements are awesome:
pkg_add -ui -F update -F updatedepends
Flawless updates.
The hardware sensors rock.
apmd "-C" is now on all my machines.

Just great.
For those who consider to run a server on old machines (I have one PII with 32MB ram) http://blowfishbsd.blogspot.com/

Have fun. 3.9 is another great release

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v torrent links
by duff on Mon 1st May 2006 13:17 UTC
That's great
by ZaNkY on Mon 1st May 2006 13:21 UTC
ZaNkY
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2005-10-18

This is great. As soon as I get home today I'll grab myself a copy.

--ZaNkY

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WTF
by kernelpanicked on Mon 1st May 2006 14:59 UTC
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2006-02-01

Amazing, after the whole funding ordeal and all the articles posted about why OpenBSD depends on CD sales and doesn't create download ISOs, within the first five posts here we've got someone posting a link to ISOs made by god knows who and getting modded up for it. I hope somewhere in all that foreign mess that nobody can read, it says "These ISOs come with a nice Trojan, enjoy." Same goes for the guy who posted a torrent link. I've had the 3.9 release for about three weeks now, because I actually bought the CDs. It's a great release with a lot of new features and improvements. Please people, try an ftp install and if it works out for you, buy a CD set or make a donation.

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RE: WTF
by mkools on Mon 1st May 2006 18:53 UTC in reply to "WTF"
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2005-10-11

I totally agree on that, that's why I modded them down.
People should not post URL's to ISO's but the link to buy the CD's and other materials:

http://www.openbsd.org/orders.html

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RE[2]: WTF
by odnomzagi on Tue 2nd May 2006 07:01 UTC in reply to "RE: WTF"
odnomzagi Member since:
2006-05-01

Congratulation. Read the rest of article carefully what i linked (the article contains this URL and ask people to buy official CD-s).

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RE: WTF
by odnomzagi on Tue 2nd May 2006 06:53 UTC in reply to "WTF"
odnomzagi Member since:
2006-05-01

"and doesn't create download ISOs, "

Where you read this? Deeplink please.

"within the first five posts here we've got someone posting a link to ISOs"

One word: freedom. OpenBSD = freedom.

"god knows who and getting modded up for it."

man md5

(on tarballs)

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RE[2]: WTF
by kernelpanicked on Tue 2nd May 2006 12:11 UTC in reply to "RE: WTF"
kernelpanicked Member since:
2006-02-01

"Where you read this? Deeplink please."

http://openbsd.org/faq/faq3.html#ISO

"One word: freedom. OpenBSD = freedom."

From above link:

Note that only the CD layout is copyrighted, OpenBSD itself is free. Nothing precludes someone else from downloading OpenBSD and making their own CD. If for some reason you want to download a CD image, try searching the mailing list archives for possible sources. Of course, any OpenBSD ISO images available on the Internet either violate Theo de Raadt's copyright or are not official images. The source of an unofficial image may or may not be trustworthy; it is up to you to determine this for yourself.

"man md5"

How exactly is md5 going to help you here? Since there are no md5s on the ftp server, do you plan to download every tarball from the ftp mirror, generate an md5sum, mount your copyright infringing iso and compare all the md5s?

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RE[3]: WTF
by odnomzagi on Tue 2nd May 2006 13:42 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: WTF"
odnomzagi Member since:
2006-05-01

"http://openbsd.org/faq/faq3.html#ISO"

Please read the BSD License.

"any OpenBSD ISO images available on the Internet either violate Theo de Raadt's copyright or are not official images."

These images are _not official_ images.

"copyright infringing iso"

Please read carefully again, what you cited above.

Edited 2006-05-02 13:43

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RE[4]: WTF
by kernelpanicked on Tue 2nd May 2006 14:33 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: WTF"
kernelpanicked Member since:
2006-02-01

You don't quite understand do you? The format of the ISOs is not BSD licensed. This discussion has nothing whatsoever to do with the BSD license. The format for the ISOs is copyrighted by Theo. It's almost certain that these cds were made using that format layout or they wouldn't even boot properly. I have read the FAQ many, many times, thank you. If you're wondering why I'm typing in short simple sentences, it's because you obviously need it.

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RE[5]: WTF
by odnomzagi on Tue 2nd May 2006 15:27 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: WTF"
odnomzagi Member since:
2006-05-01

"The format for the ISOs is copyrighted by Theo."

All right. They does'nt use the original copyrighted layout (unoffical).

They created an ISO image from a couple BSD licenced stuff (kernel and userland stuffs). With mkisofs (Theo owns the El Torito specification's rights? I dont think so.). They have the right to do this.

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RE[6]: WTF
by kernelpanicked on Tue 2nd May 2006 16:15 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: WTF"
kernelpanicked Member since:
2006-02-01

You still don't get it, and at this point I really don't care to keep explaining it to you. Please do yourself and the rest of us a favor and get some common sense.

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RE: OBSD Support
by vogelar on Mon 1st May 2006 15:33 UTC
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2006-04-03

Kernelpanicked, I have to completely agree. OpenBSD doesn't release ISOs because CD purchases is partially how their project is supported!

Go buy the CDs if you like it so much or do an ftp install to try it out, there's no excuse for BTing or DLing ISOs!

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CD sales
by animus on Mon 1st May 2006 16:13 UTC
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2005-11-29

Yes, it is kind of tactless to post a link to downloadable ISOs after the whole OpenBSD money problem. What people might want to take into consideration is that all the recent donations to OpenBSD are not a permanent fix to their funding problems. I'd much prefer to see them selling CD's to fund the project rather than asking for donations every year (which can and will get annoying).

Obviously you don't _have_ to buy the cd's, but if you are actually using the OS a lot (apart from just experimenting/testing) and/or you are financially well off -- well then it's kind of lame to download it.

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great
by happycamper on Mon 1st May 2006 19:41 UTC
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2006-01-01

this what i call a real unix-like operating system. no easy system configuration GUI programs.

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RE: great
by eMagius on Tue 2nd May 2006 00:20 UTC in reply to "great"
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2005-07-06

this what i call a real unix-like operating system. no broken, buggy, unfriendly system configuration GUI programs.

T,FTFY.

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Horray!!!!
by Archite on Tue 2nd May 2006 00:27 UTC
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2006-01-14

Having waited so many months for this realease, I am really stoked! Let me just say, having been using the snapshots for the past few months, I think that a lot of people will really enjoy this release.

If you do download OpenBSD 3.9, please consider making even a $5 donation! Every bit helps. Link below:

http://www.openbsd.org/donations.html

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2cents
by sithgunner on Wed 3rd May 2006 08:46 UTC
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2006-02-16

Why is an ISO image layout has anything to do with common sense? Unless it's actually part of our lives while I was having my days.

OpenBSD may be good, and may need money, but this is all fan boys keep saying donate! donate! donate!, when Theo himself chose a license that he didn't make people to pay when they don't want to.

Again, keeping free software doesn't have to involve keeping it free as in beer and people seem never to understand that part, but thankfully Theo made it free as in beer for people who don't want to pay to give it a try as well. If they so need money, they need to dual license for people who makes money out of it or something, but just waiting for random donation without forcing people to pay, I'm sure they'll always be in financial problem. Though some good guys from Mozilla and such are nice enough to give them good amount of donation recently. So stop telling people to donate like hell, people do when they feel like. As soon as it enters into world of aquiring money, people aren't all your friends. People who use OpenBSD seriously might happily pay if the license forces them to either.

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