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Do you have an explaination as to why you believe this to be a bad name? You say it sounds funny ... how? and why? ... and what's wrong with SAAB?

Considering how much time people are going to "waste" on this product, "Wii" is strangly appropriate.

Haha, a bit behind the news? The name was announced a while ago, and everyone has already fussed. I'm sure you can find plenty of articles from fanboys of both camps to help explain it to you.

The article is about the Wii, not the DS! Either way this is good news.

And lets please not get into _ANY_ Opera vs Firefox wars please. I don't care which is your favourite browser or who invented what, as long as it's not IE and that you're happy with your choice.

doh'! Oh well, DS, Wii, I'm can't wait to get my hands on both of em!

*Wearing the nintendo fanboy hat since Mario Kart

Me too!! (Wearing my Nintendo fanboy hat since the very first Legend of Zelda game)

If you're on Firefox view your cookies from preferences/options and delete all the ones from OSNews, then refresh the page and things should work fine again.

I hear that Minimo requires 64mb ram to run, Opera can work in DS's 4mb. Yeah we're talking about Wii, but clearly one is a better browser than the other and liscensing has little to do with it.

But surely open source programmers are better than closed source programmers (atleast that's what I've been told repeatedly by folks on this board).

The license has little to do with the skill of the programmer. The quality of the program is down to management. Opera is a tight-knit hard working, full time team. Firefox (and I'm a big fan myself), has a lot of part time staff who work for Google and other companies, and progress is very slow.

Well anyone who has told you that is an idiot, and you are an idiot as well for believing them. They say the method of open source development is better in the longrun, not that open source developers are automatically more skilled than closed source developers.

And really, if your whole purpose in life is to troll online message boards to get a little bit of glee and amusement by annoying people for a fraction of a second, then you are a very sad individual indeed. Reading through some of your comment history makes it very clear that you are very much against Linux and OSS, so quit pretending to be oh so outraged that they went with Opera instead of Firefox, and grow up.

"Why didn't they go with Open Source?"

Cause they didn't want to? Cause Opera is lighter and faster? There are tons of possible reasons. Firefox isn't the end all, be all of the browser industry, and if Nintendo thinks Opera will work out better for them, then I am all for it.

Maybe if they went with Firefox it would be a slap in the face of the proprietary but much more advanced browser Opera. Did you ever think of that? :-P

Oh, and by the way, those downloads you grab from Mozilla.com contain proprietary software, just to let you know.

(Using Camino right now myself)

Why didn't they go with Open Source?

Maybe because they don't see open source as a religion?

"Why didn't they go with Open Source?"

If you BUY a product you have someone to blame if the product breaks.

Why didn't they go with Open Source?

If you BUY a product you have someone to blame if the product breaks.

Actually, given the 'defensive licensing' nowadays common in IT land, this is mostly a bogus argument imho.

Probably because Firefox is becoming a bloated unstable pig? I used to be a huge fan of it, now I don't even recommend it to people anymore. All the fame had a negative effect on it.

>> This is a slap in the face of the open source browser firefox.

Frankly, it could use a few good slaps to keep them honest. Maybe (we can hope) it will be a wake-up call.

A large company like Nintendo EVER choosing a open source product like firefox for their hardware is REALLY unlikely - see, they are in the business of MAKING money... and frankly, trusting a bunch of 'volunteers' to spend time fixing (or not fixing) the product is not going to end up high on the list of options. It would cost them more money to bring on a staff to maintain the build for their hardware than it would to just pay a company like MS or Opera to do just make one for them - not to mention learning curve time needed for 'in house' porting.

Besides, Firefox has made how many inroads on embedded devices and thin clients so far? Opera on the other hand is THE weapon of choice on mobile and other thin clients not running Windows CE. (and it's even available on a couple of those)

Between Opera Mobile and Opera Mini, they are a full generation AHEAD of anything Gecko based in the non-desktop market.

It wasn't just the embedded deals, a lot of revenue comes from selling referrals to the likes of Google, Amazon and eBay:-
http://www.gigaom.com/2005/09/21/google-made-opera-browser-free/

Planetweb Browser for Dreamcast sucks until version 3 while Dream Passport is way better than the former on its time.
http://www.dricas.com/dp/