Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 18th May 2006 21:06 UTC, submitted by Ryan
Linux SymphonyOS 2006-05 Beta has been released. This release, based on Debian unstable, is the first with a functional hard drive installer and the first to include the OneClick software installation system providing an easy to use interface to the debian repositories. TuxMachines has already posted a review, and screenshots are available as well.
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abhaysahai
Member since:
2005-10-20

Admirable Things as default::
1) Desktop manager & One Click Software on the desktop itself, making it obvious to normal users.
2) Well thought of gadgets like yahoo news, newsforge, google search and battery monitor.
3) I think this is the first distro with nvu as default.
4) Eye candy, eye candy and even more eye candy.

I know that we can do all this on most linux systems, but here it comes as default and many users like me don't even change the default wallpaper. Having a preconfigured easy to use system contributed a lot to Ubuntu's popularity. Symphony developers have done a great job in achieving this. Kudos to them for such a magnificant effort.
Looking forward to a final release.

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slate Member since:
2006-04-04

I think we need more of this instead of the usual distro-of-the-month that does the same thing as all the other distros except arranges files differently and uses a different package manager.

I'm a bit mystified on why we don't have more people having a little bit more courage in taking the kernel, X, some GNU tools and doing something really different.

It's 2006 and I think we've gotten to the point that business as usual is not doing much good for desktop linux making more progress in the market.

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Morin Member since:
2005-12-31

> I'm a bit mystified on why we don't have more people having a little bit
> more courage in taking the kernel, X, some GNU tools and doing
> something really different.

I would even go a step further and say, come up with design principles from scratch that are appropriate for today's needs, and then build an operating system that *just happens* to be built on top of Linux. Linux should be a solution to have a running system with lots of supported hardware quickly, but not dictate the overall philosophy of the whole system.

In pratice that means, screw compatibility with other Linuxes. Don't call it Linux so people know that it isn't compatible. Patch the kernel and other software whenever it doesn't do what you want. Don't make it compatible with every release of the vanilla kernel, so you have less trouble keeping your patches up-to-date.

PS: That would be an interesting project for me, but I think that Unix-like OSes are a dead end in general (that includes NT, which is very Unix-like from a certain viewpoint). IMHO projects like JNode and Singularity are the way to go.

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dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

It's too much work for most people, even the more geekier sort. Unless you're only building for yourself.

But an OpenSTEP-clone based on GnuSTEP with a Linux kernel seems like the perfect GNU/Linux distribution to me. Take Alexander Patrakovs UTF-8 version, apply some of the ideas from GoboLinux, but with GnuSTEP flavour, and off we go ;)

EDIT #1: And combine it with Klik, so we can have appfolders ;)

EDIT #2: Something like this -> http://klik.atekon.de/search.php?package=gnustep

Edited 2006-05-19 10:55

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Still interesting
by Ronald Vos on Fri 19th May 2006 08:16 UTC
Ronald Vos
Member since:
2005-07-06

I'm surprised to see only 2 comments, as Symphony used to be the promised land according to many ;)

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Can't read...
by Tuishimi on Fri 19th May 2006 08:20 UTC
Tuishimi
Member since:
2005-07-06

...the article or see the pictures.

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RE: Can't read...
by dylansmrjones on Fri 19th May 2006 10:50 UTC in reply to "Can't read..."
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Me neither...

Server not found

Firefox can't find the server at www.symphonyos.com.

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Coming along, play with Mezzo too
by fak3r on Fri 19th May 2006 14:49 UTC
fak3r
Member since:
2006-04-12

Ryan's work is moving along well, if slowly. I wrote an article about installing Mezzo (the cool desktop that you see in all the screenies) within Ubuntu, where it just becomes another desktop option within GDM:

HOWTO: Mezzo desktop on Ubuntu

http://fak3r.com/articles/2006/01/31/howto-mezzo-desktop-on-ubuntu

Many of the ideas of how the desktop should be used are new and exciting. The fact that this live cd is so much further along is a great sign, with more developer support I know interest for this distro will go way up, but for me, just getting it installed within Ubuntu was my way of getting to use it; after that I started posting to the forum and watching the progress. All this talk about e17 and it's endless 16.999999 cycle, but it has none of the new ideas Mezzo does (not that I don't like e17, I do, it's slick, but it's still more of the same)

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And then there's Kuartet
by wyth on Fri 19th May 2006 17:23 UTC
wyth
Member since:
2005-12-28

This looks to be a kind of Symphony-esque desktop for KDE, called Kuartet

http://kuartetdesktop.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html

It's based on Python/Superkaramba, and might be another new direction for desktop experimentation.

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what a downer
by mark_in_rdjbrasil on Fri 19th May 2006 18:42 UTC
mark_in_rdjbrasil
Member since:
2005-11-30

aaarrgghhh, i burned the iso with k3b and restarted my gateway laptop...nothing. too bad, i really like the article and screenshots.

Reply Score: 1

more shots
by chrishaney on Fri 19th May 2006 19:12 UTC
chrishaney
Member since:
2005-11-15
another (bittorrent) download link
by progster on Sat 20th May 2006 15:55 UTC
progster
Member since:
2005-07-27

bittorrent download link for p2p users:
http://www.mininova.org/get/314043

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SymphonOS Website in the Toilet
by warrenweiss on Sun 21st May 2006 02:54 UTC
warrenweiss
Member since:
2005-07-07

It looks like
http://www.symphonyos.com
is having DNS problems...in fact, it looks like the hosting ISP, isptec.net is having DNS problems.

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