Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 29th May 2006 22:13 UTC
Amiga & AROS "A prerelease of X-Windows version X11R6.3 for OS4 is now available on OS4-depot. It is a complete unix-like environment, which is meant as a base for ports from the linux-world." It includes X11R6.3 and various other components.
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Wow
by Ronald Vos on Mon 29th May 2006 22:51 UTC
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2005-07-06

That's actually pretty kick-ass. Although native is always better, easier porting is also always better.

Now cue the 'If only anyone could run this since almost noone has access to OS4' and 'Amiga is dead' comments.

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CAN WE SAY "USELESS"?
by transami on Mon 29th May 2006 23:20 UTC
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2006-02-28

No offense to those how worked hard to make it happen, but talk about ruining a good thing. I find this absolutely aweful. Why would I want to spoil the whole Amiga experience with X? Do you think people are going to convert to OS4 b/c they can run some X based apps now? They can do that with Linux --and gee, Linux actually runs on an actual computer.

Okay. So here's the "cue": AROS.

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RE: CAN WE SAY "USELESS"?
by rhyder on Tue 30th May 2006 05:46 UTC in reply to "CAN WE SAY "USELESS"?"
rhyder Member since:
2005-09-28

It might allow people to run some popular and useful apps without rebooting or powering up a second machine.

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RE: CAN WE SAY "USELESS"?
by Pixie on Tue 30th May 2006 09:15 UTC in reply to "CAN WE SAY "USELESS"?"
Pixie Member since:
2005-09-30

So one can compare between native and hosted? So that Linux part can be amigatized? Because you can?

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RE[2]: CAN WE SAY "USELESS"?
by Ronald Vos on Tue 30th May 2006 11:17 UTC in reply to "RE: CAN WE SAY "USELESS"?"
Ronald Vos Member since:
2005-07-06

So one can compare between native and hosted? So that Linux part can be amigatized? Because you can?

A ported program isn't 'hosted'. The opposite of native here is merely 'non-native', and by native the only thing that's meant is using native widgets and API.

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RE[3]: CAN WE SAY "USELESS"?
by Pixie on Wed 31st May 2006 22:50 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: CAN WE SAY "USELESS"?"
Pixie Member since:
2005-09-30

X-Windows is ported, other programs are hosted within this envirnoment.
> The opposite of native here is merely 'non-native'
I wasn't refering to the opposite, but usually you have
a) native
b) emulated
c) hosted
each one has is advantages and drawbacks, but all do the same (or try to), to run a program in a given API, altought at different speeds...

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deaccelerating os4....
by Alleister on Mon 29th May 2006 23:48 UTC
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2006-05-29

...not that anyone cares anymore. I don't believe that they will ever actually publish an release version of it.

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wooooooooooh
by 2501 on Tue 30th May 2006 00:12 UTC
2501
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2005-07-14

can you imagine???????/ firefox, mozilla, ....this is big! he is a hero!
-2501

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Get a life folks!
by gregthecanuck on Tue 30th May 2006 06:13 UTC
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Member since:
2006-05-30

Why on earth the moaning and groaning??

This is a huge amount of work done unpaid in someone's spare time. This is brilliant.

There are some great benefits to this release:

1. Non-native apps can now be hosted on OS4

2. Porting of X apps to OS4 is now possible (for example Mozilla) while the UI is ported to the native GUI toolset.

I say GREAT JOB CygnusEd and we look forward to more good stuff in the future.

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RE: Get a life folks!
by Kroc on Tue 30th May 2006 16:39 UTC in reply to "Get a life folks!"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

one more step to that $10,313.02 booty. ( http://www.discreetfx.com/AmiZilla.html )

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Nothing real new
by -ujb- on Tue 30th May 2006 09:28 UTC
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Member since:
2005-10-21

An X-Window system is existing on Amiga for quite many years. Back in the days it was already possible to run Netscape on it. Well, almost at least...
It was/is part of the geek gadgets effort but it was not much used by the ppl.

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Re: Nothing real new
by anarchic_teapot on Tue 30th May 2006 12:25 UTC
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Member since:
2006-01-22

An X-Window system is existing on Amiga for quite many years.
There's a difference between 68K and PowerPC processors, you know. Not to mention that both Amiga and X11 have improved out of all recognition since those early ports.

Do you think people are going to convert to OS4 b/c they can run some X based apps now?
No more than they'd convert to MacOSX. It's an extra for those who use OS4, not a sales argument, for Pete's sake.

Dearie me.

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Awesome
by MORB on Tue 30th May 2006 15:11 UTC
MORB
Member since:
2005-07-06

Finally !

At last it will become possible to run *nix apps without a proper *nix kernel on some overpriced and underperforming hardware that no one can buy anyway.

/There goes my comment score

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RE: Awesome
by AmigaRobbo on Tue 30th May 2006 22:05 UTC in reply to "Awesome"
AmigaRobbo Member since:
2005-11-15

Of course you can run YDL/Debian Linux on the A1 if you wanted to.

I tried it myself, but since I find some of the apps a little on the ponderious side, I went straight back to OS4, responsive but a bit lacking in the Word processing department, hope this news will mean an end to that.

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RE[2]: Awesome
by MORB on Wed 31st May 2006 10:41 UTC in reply to "RE: Awesome"
MORB Member since:
2005-07-06

"Of course you can run YDL/Debian Linux on the A1 if you wanted to."

Why would I want to run it on that thing when there is plenty of cheap, good and actually available hardware to run it on ?

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