Linked by Eugenia Loli on Thu 8th Jun 2006 00:08 UTC, submitted by diegocg
Windows Microsoft released Vista Beta 2 for public consumption. It does not require a Key but will expire on June 1 2007. You can download the 3GB ISOs (or from here) for 32bit and 64bit architectures.
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3GB ISO
by SpookyET on Thu 8th Jun 2006 01:55 UTC
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3GB ISO? All previews Windows releases, including, debugs, and betas, came on one CD. Windows now looks like a Suse, 1 DVD, or a 4-5 CDs. I hate this. Keep it simple dudes, one CD-R.

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RE: 3GB ISO
by ma_d on Thu 8th Jun 2006 01:57 UTC in reply to "3GB ISO"
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2005-06-29

It is simple, one DVD-R. Buy a DVD writer ... dude. I have no clue what takes 3GB (maybe they've got a lot of debug symbols?), but it's really not that big of a deal to assume a DVD drive these days. In fact, it might be doing a few people a favor if there are still PC producers who believe they can ship you a CD-RW and no DVD in a year.

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RE: 3GB ISO
by sappyvcv on Thu 8th Jun 2006 01:58 UTC in reply to "3GB ISO"
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2005-07-06

And operating systems used to come on one 3.5" disk.

What's the big deal?

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RE[2]: 3GB ISO
by csynt on Thu 8th Jun 2006 06:18 UTC in reply to "RE: 3GB ISO"
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2006-03-19

>And operating systems used to come on one 3.5" disk.

or better...used to come on ROM...

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RE[3]: 3GB ISO
by load_mic on Thu 8th Jun 2006 13:57 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: 3GB ISO"
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2005-12-13

And took 2s to boot.

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RE: 3GB ISO
by RGCook on Thu 8th Jun 2006 02:51 UTC in reply to "3GB ISO"
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2005-07-12

Wanna bet the next version of Windows eats a whole HD DVD?

Time marches on dude!

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RE: 3GB ISO
by Kroc on Thu 8th Jun 2006 07:13 UTC in reply to "3GB ISO"
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2005-11-10

OS X Tiger had to come on DVD, the first version to do so, and this is in 2005. OS X is not small, it's just not needlessly bloated and disorganised.

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RE: 3GB ISO
by tzine on Thu 8th Jun 2006 16:56 UTC in reply to "3GB ISO"
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2006-01-11

At least the SuSE distro comes with a complete office suite on that DVD..

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RE: 3GB ISO
by mym6 on Thu 8th Jun 2006 21:29 UTC in reply to "3GB ISO"
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2005-08-26

I already have it downloaded and installed in VMWare. I'm going to install it native when I'm actually at home tonight.

I used wget to get the file, who needs download managers?

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RE[2]: 3GB ISO
by mmorales on Fri 9th Jun 2006 04:06 UTC in reply to "RE: 3GB ISO"
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2005-07-08

with wget error--> operation no permited
any advice?

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RE[3]: 3GB ISO
by mym6 on Fri 9th Jun 2006 14:18 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: 3GB ISO"
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2005-08-26

Not sure, but it had no problems using wget to download the file. I set the retries to infinite but it never had to retry. I installed it on my P4 3.0Ghz 1.5GB ram machine at home. With a GeForce4 FX5200 video card (128MB) I scored a 2 on the perf meter. So far it runs ok but I get long pauses during some operations like changing the screen res or switching users. The UAC box also causes my monitor to go into suspend for about a second every time it pops up.

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3GB ISO?
by Jody on Thu 8th Jun 2006 01:59 UTC
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I am not trying to troll but how come you get so many free applications on 2 700 meg Linux ISO's (which includes source code) but so few applications with Vista?

Is Aero a 2 gig feature? Is the RTM release expected to be smaller?

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RE: 3GB ISO?
by diegocg on Thu 8th Jun 2006 02:13 UTC in reply to "3GB ISO?"
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2005-07-08

1) They are probably including all the debug symbols.

2) XP used to come in a CD but that doesn't means it "fits" in a CD. Back in 2001, there were not too many DVDs. For XP, Microsoft probably had to take out many things. Specially weird drivers, but there's also many "kits" that you had to download from Microsoft's web page.


Now that DVDs are really mainstream, Microsoft can afford to put a DVD of crap there. Extra drivers, for example. Who cares, really? - it's just one DVD

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RE[2]: 3GB ISO?
by Jody on Thu 8th Jun 2006 02:35 UTC in reply to "RE: 3GB ISO?"
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2005-06-30

It isn't the fact that it is 3 gig that I have a problem with.

My problem is that it is now 3 gig and still doesn't come with cool software to play with.

They could bundle software for common tasks that is spyware free, for instance.

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RE[3]: 3GB ISO?
by diegocg on Thu 8th Jun 2006 02:42 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: 3GB ISO?"
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2005-07-08

My problem is that it is now 3 gig and still doesn't come with cool software to play with.

And my point is that those 3 GB include many debugging symbols (debugging symbols take a LOT of space, and we linux users are smart enought to use apt-like systems instead of fscking .isos to deliver software) that you don't get with a linux distro and drivers that you don't get with a linux distro.

Edited 2006-06-08 02:43

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RE[3]: 3GB ISO?
by Axord on Thu 8th Jun 2006 05:07 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: 3GB ISO?"
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2005-06-30

They could bundle software for common tasks that is spyware free, for instance.

Antitrust concerns make this a non-starter, I believe.

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RE[4]: 3GB ISO?
by IMesh on Thu 8th Jun 2006 05:47 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: 3GB ISO?"
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2006-06-08

Yeah, they where going to have Onecare for free but they had to remove it because of anti-trust issues. Kind of a shame, they messed up once and because of it there being bullied. I would say just punishment except it's really the users who are paying and not them.

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RE[5]: 3GB ISO?
by kenmadsen on Thu 8th Jun 2006 13:05 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: 3GB ISO?"
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2006-05-26

In the short term perhaps yes.
In the long run however, I think it's the other way around, due to antitrust, there is valid competition in the market, which I would believe (atleast to some extend) will force better software for us.

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RE[3]: 3GB ISO?
by Deviate_X on Thu 8th Jun 2006 10:06 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: 3GB ISO?"
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Jody: "It isn't the fact that it is 3 gig that I have a problem with.
My problem is that it is now 3 gig and still doesn't come with cool software to play with.
They could bundle software for common tasks that is spyware free, for instance."


Roughly speaking - you are actually getting all the features of Media Center and all the Features of Tablet PC operating systems combined.

The Media Center features and tablet features are very slick and very cool all by themselves.

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RE[4]: 3GB ISO?
by Ookaze on Thu 8th Jun 2006 12:36 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: 3GB ISO?"
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2005-11-14

Roughly speaking - you are actually getting all the features of Media Center and all the Features of Tablet PC operating systems combined

This is pretty cool. I don't have anything that can qualify as tablet, but I have the Media Center, powered by MythTV.
I'm using Linux nearly exclusively since 2001.
I still have a Windows client with Windows XP SP2. I won't touch it, but I have a Mandriva on it that I can replace with Vista Beta 2.
The Mandriva serves me to help the users I migrated to it in case of problem, but they didn't have any for months.
I won't buy Vista, but as with Windows XP, I heard lots of things on how good it is, though far less than for WinXP.
Currently, no OS can provides me every feature I need, except for my custom Linux (which is the same that is installed on my web frontal, my main dual CPU box, and the media center).
I'll be able to see how Vista (Beta 2) fare against all the requirements I have. Compared to 2001, when I discovered WinXP was unable to even provide the basics of what I needed, the new MS OS will now have to compare against the features of my Media Center.
Being able to see how the FOSS I use fare against the latest MS developments is interesting (at least for me), so I have only positive things to say about this MS release.

The Media Center features and tablet features are very slick and very cool all by themselves

I'll be able to see by myself, but I don't hold much hope that Media Center have even 3/4 of the features I use on my MythTV box (especially the automatic program selection and integration of games and emulators). But I'll be watching for automatic reencoding in xvid, and automatic wakeup/shutdown, as well as hardware support.

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RE[2]: 3GB ISO?
by ma_d on Thu 8th Jun 2006 02:39 UTC in reply to "RE: 3GB ISO?"
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2005-06-29

And the thing is, once you're over 800MB and have no hope of getting on a CD you then have a new limitation on size. Since you're going to require a DVD anyway, you might as well fill it up.

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RE[2]: 3GB ISO?
by SlackerJack on Thu 8th Jun 2006 15:07 UTC in reply to "RE: 3GB ISO?"
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2005-11-12

Debug symbols, WTF?, there is no way that takes up so much space, what are you smoking?

What actually comes with Vista, a office suit?, seems to me it's code bloat and you can expect as XP does to grow to at least 4-5Gb.

But hey we all have 200Gb hard drives, dual layer dvd writers and 1Gb of ram right?

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RE[3]: 3GB ISO?
by falemagn on Thu 8th Jun 2006 15:46 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: 3GB ISO?"
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2005-07-06

> Debug symbols, WTF?, there is no way that takes up
> so much space, what are you smoking?

$ g++ -o parse parse.cc -I /usr/include/boost-1_33_1/ -Os -g
$ ls -l parse
-rwxr-xr-x 1 libero Nessuno 5672196 Jun 8 17:40 parse
$ strip parse.exe
$ ls -l parse
-rwxr-xr-x 1 libero Nessuno 314368 Jun 8 17:41 parse

A 1800% increase in size sounds like "much space" more to me, indeed.

That's with cygwin, btw, so one can't say it's ELF's fault. Notice how it's compiled with -Os too.

Edited 2006-06-08 15:47

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RE: 3GB ISO?
by anonymousbrowser on Thu 8th Jun 2006 02:37 UTC in reply to "3GB ISO?"
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2006-04-28

Even a single CD distro or liveCD can boast more value for money.

It's great for MS that they're getting all this free testing, i can't understand the appeal of Microsoft's beta level product myself.

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RE: 3GB ISO?
by orestes on Thu 8th Jun 2006 02:57 UTC in reply to "3GB ISO?"
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2005-07-06

Probably has a lot to do with the way the installs now, specifically the fact they're using what amounts to a sysprepped image file with a lot of extra drivers included as a way of speeding up the install process.

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RE[2]: 3GB ISO?
by PlatformAgnostic on Thu 8th Jun 2006 06:46 UTC in reply to "RE: 3GB ISO?"
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2006-01-02

Not to mention that the DVD contains builds for both x86 and x64 with all the attendant binaries. Also the single DVD contains all the OS features you could possibly have in Windows (all the way from Home to Ultimate).

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RE[3]: 3GB ISO?
by orestes on Thu 8th Jun 2006 13:47 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: 3GB ISO?"
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2005-07-06

If that were the case for this build, why have seperate ISOs for x86 and x64?

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v RE[2]: 3GB ISO?
by proforma on Thu 8th Jun 2006 07:52 UTC in reply to "3GB ISO?"
RE[3]: 3GB ISO?
by raver31 on Fri 9th Jun 2006 11:22 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: 3GB ISO?"
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2005-07-06

tons of software included with the OS ?
what planet are you on man ?

are you saying sol, notepad, calc, wordpad, media player, are tons of software ?
do you think people actually use them ?

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RE[4]: 3GB ISO?
by rockwell on Fri 9th Jun 2006 20:50 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: 3GB ISO?"
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2005-09-13

//are you saying sol, notepad, calc, wordpad, media player, are tons of software ?
do you think people actually use them ?//

er .. i use WMP, calc, and notepad just about every day. So do millions of other users. A$$hat.

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RE: 3GB ISO?
by Thomas2005 on Thu 8th Jun 2006 12:37 UTC in reply to "3GB ISO?"
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2005-11-07

The .NET framework is pretty hefty and once all the debug symbols are gone the size should drop considerably.

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RE: 3GB ISO?
by load_mic on Thu 8th Jun 2006 13:08 UTC in reply to "3GB ISO?"
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2005-12-13

I wouldn't be surprised if 1G was devoted to drivers. The rest is probably .NET and other 'managed' runtime services.

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BitTorrent needed
by alime on Thu 8th Jun 2006 02:16 UTC
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WOW. i really miss bittorrent to download the OS. Can you image the rate one would be getting right now.
"A"

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RE: BitTorrent needed
by Roguelazer on Thu 8th Jun 2006 02:20 UTC in reply to "BitTorrent needed"
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2005-06-29

Ayuh. My download already stalled...

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v RE: BitTorrent needed
by diegocg on Thu 8th Jun 2006 02:38 UTC in reply to "BitTorrent needed"
v RE[2]: BitTorrent needed
by lucas on Thu 8th Jun 2006 04:12 UTC in reply to "RE: BitTorrent needed"
RE[3]: BitTorrent needed
by lemme on Thu 8th Jun 2006 05:34 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: BitTorrent needed"
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2006-04-13

hmm...should we all get on our knees and to thank MSFT for this FREE (this word makes me convulsively check what's wrong with antispam filter) OFFER?

FYI: even if you find and report and provide fixes to all the bugs remaining in this release and even if you give 'em killer-app(pure brilliant)-idea they will still charge you for final release.

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v RE[4]: BitTorrent needed
by lucas on Thu 8th Jun 2006 11:03 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: BitTorrent needed"
RE[4]: BitTorrent needed
by lucas on Thu 8th Jun 2006 11:05 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: BitTorrent needed"
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2005-07-08

or perhaps you're not staff after all, thought it claims you are on the reply page

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RE[2]: BitTorrent needed
by anonymousbrowser on Thu 8th Jun 2006 11:32 UTC in reply to "RE: BitTorrent needed"
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2006-04-28

If you're expecting high demand you can always put your main file servers on BT duty, that way everyone can use your hefty bandwidth until it's at capacity, at which point the client starts asking around.

"I pay money to have less problems, no more."

you pay that money to MS and expect less problems? surely that only guarantees more expensive problems.

you must remember than this is a wide open free beta, no one's paying money, they can waste the money you pay them on lots of bandwidth for all the fanboi 12year old kids who want to play with vista before anyone else, or they can limit bandwidth and access and hope that as demand for the beta grows previous downloaders will seed to bittorrent trackers, therefore increasing the availability of the beta, which can only be a good thing for them, and making it slightly illicit, well, you had to sign up for it before, which is exactly the kind of rebelious things those aforementioned kids are after.

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RE[3]: BitTorrent needed
by rockwell on Fri 9th Jun 2006 20:55 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: BitTorrent needed"
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2005-09-13

//you must remember than this is a wide open free beta, no one's paying money, they can waste the money you pay them on lots of bandwidth for all the fanboi 12year old kids who want to play with vista before anyone else, or they can limit bandwidth and access and hope that as demand for the beta grows previous downloaders will seed to bittorrent trackers, therefore increasing the availability of the beta, which can only be a good thing for them, and making it slightly illicit, well, you had to sign up for it before, which is exactly the kind of rebelious things those aforementioned kids are after.//


Holy run-on sentence, Batman. Obviously, you've never paid for any writing classes.

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RE[2]: BitTorrent needed
by situation on Thu 8th Jun 2006 15:16 UTC in reply to "RE: BitTorrent needed"
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2006-01-10

Why this BT obsession? Well the download probably wouldn't have timed out 5 times through their current method. It isn't just whether they can afford the servers or not.

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D/L Speeds....
by gireesh on Thu 8th Jun 2006 02:21 UTC
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2005-07-24

...crap aren't they? Their servers are probably getting hammered and this even before it is /.ed.

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RE: D/L Speeds....
by WZot on Fri 9th Jun 2006 00:56 UTC in reply to "D/L Speeds...."
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2005-07-06

Not everyone. I am actually maxing out my ownload speed here... (775 KB/s)

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Firefox
by Morgan on Thu 8th Jun 2006 03:36 UTC
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In Firefox 1.5.0.4 on Windows XP the Akamai download manager that Microsoft provides is highly unstable. I don't run IE at all for security reasons so I won't be downloading this on my Windows box. I'll try under Zenwalk later, and if necessary, with a third party download manager. Microsoft does provide a direct link to the ISO for this purpose.

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firefox
by mcduck on Thu 8th Jun 2006 04:00 UTC
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Morgan;

Obviously you dident see the direct iso links they posted on that page.....

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RE: firefox
by sappyvcv on Thu 8th Jun 2006 12:20 UTC in reply to "firefox"
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2005-07-06

"Microsoft does provide a direct link to the ISO for this purpose."

Maybe you should read his whole post.

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RE[2]: firefox
by Morgan on Thu 8th Jun 2006 17:30 UTC in reply to "RE: firefox"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Thank you sappyvcv; some people apparently have comprehension problems.

Right now the page is down due to high traffic, but once it comes back up I'll get started with the download using a download manager. Many thanks to the article poster for giving the direct link to the files!

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RE: 3GB ISO
by amp306 on Thu 8th Jun 2006 04:04 UTC
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I dont mind dvds even though i dont have a dvd burner, theres still dameon tools, but its a little slow. The worst thing for me is to download 3 gigs on a wireless connection. There servers must be getting POUNDED because my download is realll sketchy.

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RE[2]: 3GB ISO
by anonymousbrowser on Thu 8th Jun 2006 11:40 UTC in reply to "RE: 3GB ISO"
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2006-04-28

Why is it a problem, is your WiFi connection slower than your internet connection or are you using WEP and concerned that 3GB will give enough useful data to break the key?

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What Build is it?
by Yogurth on Thu 8th Jun 2006 04:16 UTC
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2005-07-20

Is it newer than 5384.4, since that one is very problematic according to various reviews, and I'm hoping for revised version for this release?

How much space on HD does this release require? Beta 1 was quite demanding(~8GB).

I wonder also does it require online activation?

Thx.

Edited 2006-06-08 04:33

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RE: 3GB ISO
by optikwhite on Thu 8th Jun 2006 04:17 UTC
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Maybe the reason the install iso is 4GB is because you are getting the Ultimate Edition which is, effectively, Home+Pro+Tablet+Media Center+whatever else Microsoft has decided to throw in there.

And why the BT obsession? Because I feel it would be a lot more userfriendly than the current setup. Have those servers seed and then use the power of the internet and those wanting to download Vista to allow it do be done so as painlessly as possible. Direct download links died after 784k, the download manager keeps dying. BT, I'm sure, would be better than this.

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BitTorrent
by zlynx on Thu 8th Jun 2006 05:35 UTC in reply to "RE: 3GB ISO"
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2005-07-20

Another good reason to use BT is its block checksums. Does everyone really expect to get a clean download of 3-4 GB? With BT, it'll detect that bad block and re-download just that *one* block, not the whole file.

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RE: BitTorrent
by MaBu on Thu 8th Jun 2006 06:29 UTC in reply to "BitTorrent"
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2006-01-04

They could at least provide md5sum, that you can test if you have whole file with all chunks. On iso-hunt there is some file similary named and the dovnload is much faster.

P.S.: I think it is OK to say that because beta is free to download.

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v Mirrors
by Brmbolec on Thu 8th Jun 2006 06:49 UTC
Page currently has a "go away" message
by rklrkl on Thu 8th Jun 2006 07:11 UTC
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Looks like the "3GB ISOs" link isn't much use at the moment - Microsoft have been swamped by demand and have pulled the download! If ever there was a hugely strong case for using BitTorrent in a legal way, this is it surely? Stupidity on the part of MS there for not offering a BT download of a 3GB ISO...

Also note that the second link *requires* a Windows Passport login, which is a pathetic pre-requisite for a free download.

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ultimate
by netpython on Thu 8th Jun 2006 07:29 UTC
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2005-07-06

Nice of them to enable us to do some testing.However i agree with some that as usual MS has underestimated the
bandwith needed.With their resources it can't be that difficult to buy some bandwith.Other than that i hope we can download again soon (server is overloaded).

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RE: ultimate
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 8th Jun 2006 07:32 UTC in reply to "ultimate"
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2005-06-29

Yes, and it pisses me off ;) . I have a day off today, perfect day to test Vista.

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Re: ultimate
by Eugenia on Thu 8th Jun 2006 07:35 UTC
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2005-06-28

Microsoft DID buy bandwidth. From akamai. But obviously it wasn't enough.

Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (SymbianOS/9.1; U; en-us) AppleWebKit/413 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/413

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Live DVD
by audun on Thu 8th Jun 2006 08:38 UTC
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2005-07-13

Why don't they provide a Live DVD? It's only for testing anyways..

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RE: Live DVD
by Eugenia on Thu 8th Jun 2006 08:44 UTC in reply to "Live DVD"
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2005-06-28

Which is exactly why they should not provide a live DVD for testing. Testing is only valid when the same circumstances of a normal installation yields a bug. A live DVD is not a normal installation.

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RE[2]: Live DVD
by audun on Thu 8th Jun 2006 08:53 UTC in reply to "RE: Live DVD"
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2005-07-13

True..

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Did I miss something here.
by Finchwizard on Thu 8th Jun 2006 08:59 UTC
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2006-02-01

So I pay for an MSDN subscription.

I download Vista, and get a temp key which needs to be activated in 14 days.

And the public can download it for free and it doesn't expire until June 1st 2007!?

Seems kind of stupid.

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RE: Did I miss something here.
by netpython on Thu 8th Jun 2006 09:17 UTC in reply to "Did I miss something here."
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2005-07-06

MSDN is more than downloading beta's.Most people don't have the time for it:)

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How is the expiration date checked?
by w-ber on Thu 8th Jun 2006 10:10 UTC
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2005-08-21

I'm not curious enough to try and download the beta, but I am curious about one thing: how did they implement expiration date checking? Is it based on the system clock or does the OS connect to Microsoft server to check what the date is? If the former, it will be possible to use the beta indefinitely. (Not that you would particularly want to, but it may be possible...)

I remember installing QNX in this way. The free developer version came with a key that expired a month or so after acquiring it, but if you set the system clock from the BIOS to any date before that, you could still install it. After installation, you would simply set the date to the current date and voila.

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OS on DVD
by Retro on Thu 8th Jun 2006 11:29 UTC
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2005-07-06

Gosh you windows people need to get outta the dark ages and realise that everyhing cant stay for the simpletons out there. Of course it should be on DVD which saves alot disk changing. In the end you guys are gonna have to upgrade your systems anyways so you can run the damn thing...

Good Luck!!!

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Expires on June 1, 2007?
by HagerR15 on Thu 8th Jun 2006 13:08 UTC
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2005-07-25

Hmmm,

The beta won't expire until June 1, 2007. Are they giving extra time for testers to buy it, or are they thinking the final release won't be ready until 2nd Quarter of next year? ;)

I'd love to try it out, but I've run out of testing computers at home and can't justify buying another one. (Plus the wife would kill me if I got a high-end PC before her iMac!)

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Re: Win Vista Beta 2
by aGNUstic on Thu 8th Jun 2006 13:18 UTC
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I have gotten more proverbial `miles` from Mandriva 2006 Free than I've ever gotten from any version of Win.

3 Gigs? Good lord. I remember when WinSilly users used to laugh at distros like SuSE and RH. Karma is a ......

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Easy Way Out
by gentoolen on Thu 8th Jun 2006 17:06 UTC
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2006-06-08

I just decided to opt for the DVD purchase...

It cost me $6 plus $4 to ship for a "2 DVD Windows Vista Ultimate Kit" and should arrive in 2 to 4 weeks, likely less.

Thing is, if it doesn't require a key and doesn't expire until June of '07, then I'm in no great hurry and can enjoy it at my leisure along with whatever else they toss onto the second DVD...

I'm awaiting DVD Goodness. ;)

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bullethead
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2005-07-10

http://plonkmedia.org/tracker/

Unknown to some if you believe some previous posts, you actually do need a key provided from Microsoft. One key is good for 10 installs however. You can also get multiple keys for more than 10 machines if you have them ;) I think the limit is 3 seperate keys per user.

You need to setup a .net passport with Microsoft to get access to the key.

Just FYI.

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Incredible
by atsureki on Fri 9th Jun 2006 07:09 UTC
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It looks like you can only access the page from Windows. I haven't exactly done extensive testing, but it accepts Firefox on Windows and rejects Safari on OS X. I'd think Intel Mac owners would be a target demographic.

It also won't download with wget. That could just be direct linking aversion, or it could just be unreasoned malice. It's hard to tell these things with Microsoft.

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