Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 9th Jun 2006 11:05 UTC, submitted by mikemuch
Internet & Networking "What ever happened to the virtual reality, 3D world of the web? Back in the late 90s, all the hype was about VRML - Virtual Reality Markup Language - which would turn the web into an immersive environment that you'd maneuver around to get to the information you wanted. We're here to tell you that the reports of the 3D web's death are greatly exaggerated. As evidence, we present three 3D browsers that will use that graphics card for something other than gaming: 3B, Browse3D, and SphereXPlorer."
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windows only?
by Anonymous. on Fri 9th Jun 2006 13:09 UTC
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2005-12-04

apparently they're all windows-only. i guess the 3D web is dead to me.

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RE
by Kroc on Fri 9th Jun 2006 13:19 UTC
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2005-11-10

Browsing on the desktop in 3D is pointless. It is a 2D environment without the 3D controls.

Browsing in a game is different. Adequate controls are provided to navigate full 3D space and people are used to them. (WASD)

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RE
by dmdavis on Fri 9th Jun 2006 15:08 UTC in reply to "RE"
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2005-07-06

What do you mean, without the 3D controls? At least in the first browser they showed, 3B, you move around the web page just like you would in a game.

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In summary.
by Michael on Fri 9th Jun 2006 15:11 UTC
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2005-07-01

The browsers are just jazzed-up tabbed browsers and bookmarking.

It mentions X3D, VRML's replacement but I suspect we've a few years to wait for anything useful there. Unless Vista gives everyone a good kick up the arse that is.

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RE: In summary.
by vimh on Fri 9th Jun 2006 16:33 UTC in reply to "In summary."
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2006-02-04

The browsers are just jazzed-up tabbed browsers and bookmarking.

You're right. And 3D browsing is dead unless the designers come up with something better than viewing a 2D web page at an angle and calling it a 3D web page. If I wanted that, I'd rotate my monitor 45 degrees.

These browsers took VRML and tossed out the Virtual Reality part. Don't give the user a pseudo 3D maze with 2D billboards.

A 3D web needs to be an immersive "Virtual Reality" much like todays 3D games but geared towards the aggregation and distribution of information or presentation of commercial goods and services.

How to make a truly 3D web that's actually useful? That's a tough question. I haven't figured that one out yet.

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3B
by dmdavis on Fri 9th Jun 2006 15:30 UTC
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2005-07-06

I just downloaded the first browser, 3B, because it looked the most interesting to me. In short, it takes web sites and puts them into a maze (albeit not a very complex one) that you have to wander through. The walls are basically billboards. The "city" is divided into sections, but I can't figure out how to move instantly to another section. (not to say you can't, it just wasn't intuitive to me, which is annoying) So now I'm forced to walk around to get to a place that really should come to me instantly.

Sign me up, this looks awesome! It combines the annoying marketing of hundreds of billboards with the frustration of wandering through a maze in a game. All it's missing are enemies blocking your way to web pages.

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RE: 3B
by peejay on Fri 9th Jun 2006 17:03 UTC in reply to "3B"
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2005-06-29

All it's missing are enemies blocking your way to web pages.

http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=14856

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Useless
by microFawad on Fri 9th Jun 2006 17:09 UTC
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2005-12-09

3D Browsers = Completely useless

What's the need for that? Just to slow down our machine's performance? I don't know why software developers are fogetting there points for making softwares. They must be lite, easy to use, no useless animations, give max performance, etc.

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S p a c e .. 3D browsing ...
by poohgee on Fri 9th Jun 2006 21:22 UTC
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2005-08-13

3D web browsing is dead if it doesnt add functionality or ease of use IMO .

& most sites I guess are not designed with 3D browsers in mind - I think this idea of 3D browsing can work if the sites & data etc are designed to be shown usefully in 3D space .

Just IMO ;)

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Just another goofy idea
by deathshadow on Fri 9th Jun 2006 22:35 UTC
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2005-07-12

That adds no real functionality, and amounts to little more than goofy eye candy... that in fact can often make things MORE difficult and MORE confusing.

But then this is coming from a guy who's running the Vista beta in 'classic' mode (even though I have the hardware to run the eye-candy full bore), runs XP in 'classic', wishes OSX had a way to turn all it's goofy {censored} off to present TEXT for the programs on the dock, and thinks XFCE tries too hard on the eye candy and hasn't put enough effort into usability.

microFawad hit it on the head with what programs SHOULD be - something that it seems UI developers seem to have thrown out completely: UI's today seem to be all flash and no substance... and 99% of the 3d webstuff when used for ANYTHING other than gaming amounts to little more...

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Only use I can think of....
by leech on Sat 10th Jun 2006 08:50 UTC
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2006-01-10

would be to actually have the Web content that people actually want to see on one side of a wall or cube, and then have all the advertising clutter on other walls/cubes. Personally I have a huge /etc/hosts file simply to block all the advertisements, and then use Ad-block to make pages more readable. If the ads weren't so obtrusive on so many sites, then perhaps maybe I'd look at them long enough to see what the ad is about and click on it, rather than just right click, adblock it, and then read whatever article I'm trying to read.

Other than that, 3D web browsing really only has a "wow, cool but pointless" effect on people. Though it would be pretty cool if/when it gets to the level it is in Johnny Mnemonic. Though that'd be when we move away from keyboards and go towards neural interfaces and cybersuits, etc.

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Eye Candy but not practical
by marytee on Sat 10th Jun 2006 11:07 UTC
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2006-03-02

At first glance, it seems like a cutting-edge, radical idea. However, if you have to click more frequently to rotate the 3D windows or to enjoy the capability, it could quickly become annoying and useless.

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RE: Eye Candy but not practical
by Worldbuilder on Sat 10th Jun 2006 20:12 UTC in reply to "Eye Candy but not practical"
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2006-04-12

i think it failed back then because of the lack of broadband connections for the typical web users. now with xdsl widely available it could gain more acceptance

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Effective?
by nealsaferstein on Mon 12th Jun 2006 03:30 UTC
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2006-06-03

Are these really effective?

Neal Saferstein

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3D Browsing
by fejack on Mon 12th Jun 2006 10:36 UTC
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2006-06-12

Reading the entry, I thought it was all about browsers able to display 3D content in the likes of Macromedia Shockwave 8.
What a dissapointment! This is one of the pointless things I've seen: making 2D billboards in a 3D environment. So much for usability.

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