Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 13th Jun 2006 22:14 UTC
Humor Sometimes, while browsing the net for news, I come accross things I just cannot not post. "Some enterprising Austrian Über-geeks [have created] a Telnet stream with, believe it or not, live ASCII footage of matches being played [at the World Cup Football]. Simply fire up a command prompt and type 'telnet ascii-wm.net 2006' and you'll find a live 'video' stream from 10 minutes before kick-off (or should that be boot-up?)." I also look forward to the Wimbledon version that resembles Pong.
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Heh...
by dylansmrjones on Tue 13th Jun 2006 22:35 UTC
dylansmrjones
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2005-10-02

That's hmm...

I believe this is... how should I put it...?

But Wimbledon in Pong-like ascii-version? Oh yeah ;)

BTW: Due to the addictive element in Pong you should probably add a disclaimer to the summary. Like this: "I also look forward to the Wimbledon version that resembles Pong. - BEWARE: Pong is highly addictive. OSNews is not responsible for any heartattacks, lack of food consumption or other damage to visitors."

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Wow
by brewin on Tue 13th Jun 2006 22:42 UTC
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2005-06-30

How wonderfully useless! I love it! ;)

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A reason to watch soccer
by lopisaur on Tue 13th Jun 2006 22:48 UTC
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2006-02-27

Well, at least an entertaining way to watch the World Cup.
All you soccer-loving nerds, rejoice!

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RE: A reason to watch soccer
by dylansmrjones on Tue 13th Jun 2006 22:54 UTC in reply to "A reason to watch soccer"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

I think it's great. This way I don't have to pretend I'm a Pierson's Puppeteer ;)

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RE: A reason to watch soccer
by Varg Vikernes on Wed 14th Jun 2006 00:29 UTC in reply to "A reason to watch soccer"
Varg Vikernes Member since:
2005-07-06

Well, at least an entertaining way to watch the World Cup.
All you soccer-loving nerds, rejoice!


First of all it's not called soccer, but football. The entire world calls it football (fußball, le football,...) and it existed well before the US started calling their rugby ripoff "football".
It's like the US calling black people african-american; their not from Africa, their American. They're black. Just as white Americans aren't britain-american...

Edited 2006-06-14 00:31

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by adapt on Wed 14th Jun 2006 00:48 UTC in reply to "RE: A reason to watch soccer"
v RE[2]: A reason to watch soccer
by kernelpanicked on Wed 14th Jun 2006 01:38 UTC in reply to "RE: A reason to watch soccer"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

In the rest of the world football == soccer.

In Denmark the word is "fodbold".

If we're talking about american football (aka perverted rugby), the word we use is "amerikansk football". Because your football isn't football.

According to Wikipedia soccer is known as football outside the US, and the US is only one nation of hundreds.

Besides that football did exist long before 1863. 1863 is the year of the official beginning. Football as a game have existed for several centuries (the same goes for hockey). Spelling and rules have changed through the years, and keeps changing, but the fact is that football as we know it (outside USA) is centuries old.

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RE[4]: A reason to watch soccer
by siki_miki on Wed 14th Jun 2006 10:08 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: A reason to watch soccer"
siki_miki Member since:
2006-01-17

I can't agree that football is centuries old. Football (not the american one) stemmed from the sport similar to rugby (played with both feet and hands).
It was invented in England in second half of the 19th century and soon popularized in south america by some Englishmen. The sport soon evolved to foot-only.

Of course americans hijacked the word and declared their own rugby-ripoff a football (name probably inspired by the same predecessor of "euro"-football or by the fact that free kicks are shot with a foot)

Although it sounds a bit strange that so simple foot-based sport didn't exist earlier (hint: even ancient Romans had something similar, archeologists found sculptures of football-like balls from that time).

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dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Dooh...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football#Medi.C3.A6val_football

Earlist record of football match is from 1712. Football (played with foot) was banned in 1409 by Henry IV of England.

Before engaging in discussions, a bit of research are a good idea.

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RE[3]: A reason to watch soccer
by Shane on Wed 14th Jun 2006 02:16 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: A reason to watch soccer"
Shane Member since:
2005-07-06

"Going by popularity alone, I think the rugby ripoff won easily."

Ever heard the term "the world game"? :-)

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RE[3]: A reason to watch soccer
by WZot on Wed 14th Jun 2006 02:36 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: A reason to watch soccer"
WZot Member since:
2005-07-06

Going by popularity alone
In the US: yes. In the rest of the world: no.

The "rugby ripoff" football is close to unknown outside US (except from american movies). "Soccer" football is whats most popular in the rest of the world.

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RE[3]: A reason to watch soccer
by PowerMacX on Wed 14th Jun 2006 02:48 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: A reason to watch soccer"
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2005-11-06

Not to be a dick but it's time for a reality check. According to wikipedia, modern SOCCER came around 1863. Footbal (the real kind, not guys in shorts) around 1869. That's six years difference, hardly "well before".

Check your "facts". ;)

"SOCCER" was derived from "Association Football", which was shortened to Assoc. in common use and derived into "Soccer". So:
1st. Football
2nd. Association Football
3rd. Assoc.
4th. Soccer

Going by popularity alone, I think the rugby ripoff won easily.
In the USA, sure. Elsewhere, are you kidding?

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RE[3]: A reason to watch soccer
by Hugo on Wed 14th Jun 2006 10:09 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: A reason to watch soccer"
Hugo Member since:
2005-07-06

"Even the euros know what real football is; NFL Europe ain't skinny guys in shorts tearing off their shirts"

lol, who would want to watch "NFL Europe" when you can go and watch a *REAL* rugby match, you know what i mean, rugby!, the one where they don't wear sissy helmets and paddings, and actually run on real grass...
As for football (the real one) the beauty of it is that anyone can play it, all that is required is skill. It doesn't matter if you are skinny, tall, short, black, white or blue, it's a game of skill, inspiration and team play.

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RE[5]: A reason to watch soccer
by Hugo on Wed 14th Jun 2006 13:32 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: A reason to watch soccer"
Hugo Member since:
2005-07-06

"Wow, it must be nice to be able to ignore all facts and continue to live in you guys' little fantasy world. I have nothing personal against soccer, but call it what it is, and it isn't football."

Well at least it has a BALL and is played using the FEET.

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RE[2]: A reason to watch soccer
by jwwf on Wed 14th Jun 2006 03:11 UTC in reply to "RE: A reason to watch soccer"
jwwf Member since:
2006-01-19

What is the difference? Have you so little of substance to worry about that you care what someone halfway across the world calls a certain sport?

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RE[3]: A reason to watch soccer
by Jedd on Wed 14th Jun 2006 03:56 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: A reason to watch soccer"
Jedd Member since:
2005-07-06

I agree. Great point.

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RE[3]: A reason to watch soccer
by skeezix on Wed 14th Jun 2006 05:26 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: A reason to watch soccer"
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2006-02-06

ohhhhhhhhhh... dude. I was just about to get into the brawl, but then I read your comment. um. too much wisdom for me to fight against.

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by bytore on Wed 14th Jun 2006 05:54 UTC in reply to "RE: A reason to watch soccer"
RE[2]: A reason to watch soccer
by h-milch-mann on Wed 14th Jun 2006 15:19 UTC in reply to "RE: A reason to watch soccer"
h-milch-mann Member since:
2005-10-27

Let me just quote John Cleese.
"You should stop playing American "football." There is only one kind of football. What you refer to as American "football" is not a very good game.

The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You will no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football.

Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like nancies). "


amen

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Oh yes, amen to that.

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RE[3]: A reason to watch soccer
by rcsteiner on Wed 14th Jun 2006 22:35 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: A reason to watch soccer"
rcsteiner Member since:
2005-07-12

No one else plays it? Wow -- I bet a lot of CFL fans will be disappointed to hear that... :-(

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RE: A reason to watch soccer
by Celerate on Wed 14th Jun 2006 01:16 UTC in reply to "A reason to watch soccer"
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2005-06-29

Actually I think this is quite interesting. Back in the early days of computers and networked communication something like this could have been pretty handy, it's not very detailed, but at least people can get some idea of how the game is going.

But then, I'd be the kind of person to get together with friends and recreate the early days of networked computing, much like some history buffs like to reinact famous wars.

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RE[2]: A reason to watch soccer
by WZot on Wed 14th Jun 2006 02:38 UTC in reply to "RE: A reason to watch soccer"
WZot Member since:
2005-07-06

Then again many people wouldnt have the bandwith to support that nifty ASCII.^_^

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RE: A reason to watch soccer
by evad on Wed 14th Jun 2006 14:41 UTC in reply to "A reason to watch soccer"
evad Member since:
2005-09-10

FOOTBALL!

It's not called soccer.

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w00t
by broken_symlink on Tue 13th Jun 2006 23:13 UTC
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2005-07-06

i can watch it on my mips tablet that runs netbsd! i have a wireless card and everything. just imagine me sitting in a bar and having a bunch of people gathered around my laptop to watch the world cup in ascii.

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RE[2]: A reason to watch soccer
by anevilyak on Tue 13th Jun 2006 23:16 UTC
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2005-09-14

Where is the term "Pierson's Puppeteer" from? I recognize it but am completely failing to remember wherefrom, though I want to say a sci-fi book.

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dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Larry Niven's "Ringworld"-books.

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This is great
by el3ktro on Tue 13th Jun 2006 23:38 UTC
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2006-01-10

... this is probably the easiest way for me to watch the world cup when I'm at office :-)

Tom

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old news
by panzi on Tue 13th Jun 2006 23:41 UTC
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2006-01-22
RE[4]: A reason to watch soccer
by anevilyak on Tue 13th Jun 2006 23:55 UTC
anevilyak
Member since:
2005-09-14

Aha! I thought so but wasn't sure, and likewise wasn't at home to check the books ;) Thanks for clearing that up.

Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Danger hiptop 2.0; U; AvantGo 3.2)

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Wow!
by Omega Penguin on Wed 14th Jun 2006 01:39 UTC
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2006-02-12

When is the next game on,in Eastern time?

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RE: Wow!
by dylansmrjones on Wed 14th Jun 2006 02:01 UTC in reply to "Wow!"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

I believe it 1300 GMT, and that would be 0900 (9 AM) EDT.

But you better check up on it. Sometimes I goof with the timezones.

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RE: Wow!
by suryad on Wed 14th Jun 2006 02:02 UTC in reply to "Wow!"
suryad Member since:
2005-07-09

I think type in www.wordlcup.com and it will orient you to FIFA's site. You can check timings there! And the amazing thing that people are ignoring I guess....is that how are they converting the live game to ASCII?! Is there a poor programmer typing the game as fast as he can?!!

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RE[2]: Wow!
by WZot on Wed 14th Jun 2006 02:44 UTC in reply to "RE: Wow!"
WZot Member since:
2005-07-06

For that there is AA-lib: http://aa-project.sourceforge.net/aalib/
:)

Cant really say I have seen the ascii-wm in action yet, but I guess thats what they use. AA-lib can be used for pictures aswell as videos.

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RE[3]: Wow!
by suryad on Wed 14th Jun 2006 03:24 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Wow!"
suryad Member since:
2005-07-09

Wow thanks for the link!

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RE[3]: Wow!
by Ookaze on Wed 14th Jun 2006 15:34 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Wow!"
Ookaze Member since:
2005-11-14

Cant really say I have seen the ascii-wm in action yet, but I guess thats what they use. AA-lib can be used for pictures aswell as videos

It's used by popular FOSS programs like MPlayer. I used it some years ago to look at videos through a SSH connection.
But now, there is better than that, libcaca at http://sam.zoy.org/libcaca/.
The same thing as aalib, but with colour, which is even better !!
And yes, it works in MPlayer too. I hope that's what they use.

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RE[3]: A reason to watch soccer
by Soulbender on Wed 14th Jun 2006 05:52 UTC
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2005-08-18

"According to wikipedia, modern SOCCER"

Sorry, but it's football to 95%+ of earths population.

"Going by popularity alone, I think the rugby ripoff won easily. "

Uh, hardly. The number of people who watch and play football (with their feet) is vastly larger than all superbowls ever put together.

"Even the euros know what real football is"
Yes indeed we do, it's the one you play with your feet, not your hands.

Edited 2006-06-14 05:54

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dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Yes indeed we do, it's the one you play with your feet, not your hands.

Heehee... me likes that one ;)

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good find =)
by natefrogg on Wed 14th Jun 2006 06:27 UTC
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2005-08-16

i'm not big on football(real football or american football), but this is really cool, thank you!

btw: "You know what Cherokee and Shawnee are don't you?" right on man, i've got cherokee and blackfoot up in my blood...

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Geez you guys....
by wakeupneo on Wed 14th Jun 2006 07:02 UTC
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2005-07-06

Is there anything NOT worth fighting over? Tomayto, tomarto...sheesh. (or if you're Dan Qualye..tomatoe obviously)

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RE: Geez you guys....
by dylansmrjones on Wed 14th Jun 2006 09:18 UTC in reply to "Geez you guys...."
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Hey, it's important.

The Word is the core of the Thought, so don't mess around with the Word ;)

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RE[2]: Geez you guys....
by wakeupneo on Wed 14th Jun 2006 10:40 UTC in reply to "RE: Geez you guys...."
wakeupneo Member since:
2005-07-06

I know it's important but when it gets reduced to name calling it loses all meaning.

Just FYI, here in Australia we're currently going through a complete shift from the name 'soccer' to 'football'. Our clubs, leagues, junior comps etc. have been renamed over the last 18 months to reflect the name change. The consensus is that if we're to be part of "The World Game" in a serious way, we should call it by its' rightful name...and I'd have to agree.

Back on topic, I can't wait to try this out tonight ;)

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RE[3]: Geez you guys....
by dylansmrjones on Wed 14th Jun 2006 11:00 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Geez you guys...."
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

You know something isn't right when the australian becomes a part of WC in a "serious way" ;)

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RE[4]: Geez you guys....
by wakeupneo on Wed 14th Jun 2006 11:55 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Geez you guys...."
wakeupneo Member since:
2005-07-06

OY! We're unbeaten! ;) C'mon Brazil. Do your worst....please...hehe..

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RE[5]: Geez you guys....
by dylansmrjones on Wed 14th Jun 2006 11:57 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Geez you guys...."
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Brazil isn't that scary. Usually the best way to handle Brazil is by playing offensive. A defensive strategy tends to be a disaster against them.

Play defensive and you lose for sure.
Play offensive and you just might win.

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RE[6]: Geez you guys....
by suryad on Wed 14th Jun 2006 20:58 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Geez you guys...."
suryad Member since:
2005-07-09

I will have to agree but I dont think it is just that easy to defeat the Brazillian team just by playing offensive...because their offense is unmatchable IMO. So no matter how offensive you get they always take it a notch higher which forces you to play defensive...only if you can outoffensive play the Brazillians can you beat them. God they are amazing to watch though. It is sheer magic when they play...oh yeah added part of the attraction of course is the hot female Brazillian fans!!! ;)

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RE[7]: Geez you guys....
by dylansmrjones on Wed 14th Jun 2006 21:02 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Geez you guys...."
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

The brazilian team isn't all that strong. They were lucky againt Croatia. And their offensive isn't strong enough to play at full speed all 90 minutes.

But one has to be extremely disciplined in the defensive as well as the offensive to handle Brazil. But they are not all that they've been made to.

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RE[3]: Geez you guys....
by cprpop on Wed 14th Jun 2006 14:16 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Geez you guys...."
cprpop Member since:
2005-07-05

What's with the latest rise in popularity of football in Australia, anyway? I thought rugby was the only sport you cared for?

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RE[4]: Geez you guys....
by wakeupneo on Wed 14th Jun 2006 14:36 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Geez you guys...."
wakeupneo Member since:
2005-07-06

You'd be surprised how popular it is here. It's the most played sport at youth level, followed by rugby then Aussie Rules. I and all my friends played it as kids but that popularity just doesn't seem to translate to a professional level. If you want to do well and you've got some talent you have to go to Europe.

Mostly I think it hasn't taken off due to a mix of messy in-fighting and mismanagement, two things they're looking to correct with the new "football" push and the creation of the 'A' League.

Still, with a small population like ours and two high profile football codes already in place, it's going to be an uphill battle. But, fingers crossed, if the Socceroos do well that may change ;)

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Old
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 14th Jun 2006 12:13 UTC
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2005-06-29

Football is a very, very, very old sport, and has existed in some form since the dawn of man. The Inuit people had a myth where their gods (or something) played an everlasting footballgame with the head of a walrus as ball. In South America was a civilisation who played football with a small ring as goal. The losing team was murdered.

Football was also played throughout the middleages in Europe, but in a different form than what we know today. It was played between towns, and the goals were sometimes kilometres apart, and everyone could participate. It was extremely violent, and got banned numerous times in various countries.

In the 19th century, English universites joined hands and set up the Cambridge rules, whch are still used today.

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Soccer?
by pfortuny on Wed 14th Jun 2006 15:07 UTC
pfortuny
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2006-02-05

What'sthat?

We here (Spain and AFAIK all central and south-america but for Brazil) watch the "Mundial de fútbol". What does the discussion about that "soccer" have to do with the World Cup? Soccer? What the hell is soccer?

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RE[5]: A reason to watch soccer
by archiesteel on Wed 14th Jun 2006 16:58 UTC
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2005-07-02

I confirm that Football is only called Soccer in the U.S. and Canada. The orginal term, and the one to use when addressing an international audience (such as the readers of this site) is Football.

As such, the one living in a "fantasy world" is you, i.e. an americanocentric worldview.

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america
by adapt on Wed 14th Jun 2006 18:24 UTC
adapt
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2005-07-06

america punks you. all you computer nerds cant play anyway so why are you arguing.

also americans aren't sissies. chuck norris is f--king american.

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RE[7]: A reason to watch soccer
by archiesteel on Thu 15th Jun 2006 01:29 UTC
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2005-07-02

What a bunch of arrogant retarded pricks.

The only one displaying arrogance here is you (oh, and adapt as well). Nevermind that you somehow equate insults with arguments - oh well, your comments will disappear from this board to be ignored by all, as it should.

CFL- Canadians are not from the US dipshit.

If you possessed the minimum intellectual capability to read English, you would have noticed that I specifically mentioned that Football was called Soccer in the U.S. and Canada. I should know, I'm Canadian.

In any case, that doesn't change anything from the main issue: the whole world except two countries calls it Football, so that's what its name is. The sport you refer to is American Football, period.

Now tell me, I'm curious, how long have you used insulting people on Internet forums as a substitute for having sex with a woman? Seems like it's been quite a while...I guess you probably don't remember how it goes. Why don't you do yourself a favor and go find out right now?

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RE[9]: A reason to watch soccer
by Shane on Thu 15th Jun 2006 09:10 UTC in reply to "RE[8]: A reason to watch soccer"
Shane Member since:
2005-07-06

Ummm no, the whole world doesn't call it football, and even if they did it wouldn't make it right. A few extremely arrogant asshats on this forum decided to start this whole mess. I just corrected it. period.

Most of the world does call "soccer" football. It's not about being arrogant. And it might make it "wrong" in your eyes. But that's a fact. It's not however something worth lowering yourself down to name calling for.

But if it makes you happy, we'll call it "soccer" and we'll call American Football "gridiron". How's that?

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RE: america
by Soulbender on Thu 15th Jun 2006 03:10 UTC
Soulbender
Member since:
2005-08-18

"america punks you. all you computer nerds cant play anyway so why are you arguing.
also americans aren't sissies. chuck norris is f--king american."

I cant tell if you're being hilariously sarcastic or incredible stupid.

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