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How does that comment affect the product?
Fedora is a specific distribution, its README file has nothing to do with Linux.

Edited 2006-06-21 22:50

Dude, this is a test release.

Perhaps if this text appears in the final release, I'd understand your view, but it won't.

Not only is this a Fedora pre-release, its the first release of the current Rawhide. Fedora itself is meant as a testing ground for RHEL... so this can be considered Alpha software...

You obvously aren't what its aimed at... maybe you should read up on RHEL Desktop?

It's the same argument given in the other responses, with other words. Other distributions are made for serious people, Fedora is testing ground. Linux is not a distribution, and not all of them include that kind of things.

Take it easy, please.

For Fedora's target audience it really doesn't matter.

If you want serious, look at RedHat not Fedora test releases. And who said Linux should be like Microsoft?

Fedora is not aimed at people who take Linux too serious, it's a developement testing ground. RHEL is the serious distro.

Well,... based on your info

Bio: Linux is f***ing garbage.

you don't want/hope it to be taken seriously.

Then again, if this is the best you could found... Fedora must be one hell of OS. Imagine PR version rollout of this "...it's OS where usability and software bugs are so non-present, that trolls are searching for verbal mistakes"

better luck next time, Tom K;)

Edited 2006-06-21 23:09

Until using Fedora isn't like watching a cripple wade through molasses

Version 5.0 is actually pretty zippy for me. Perhaps you are basing your opinion on older versions. Version 4.0 had many issues but 5.0 is very clean to install and run.

Well, with all the bling like xgl installed it is certainly much faster than Vista on my machine (nope, XP is not better either, I've got AMD4400x2, 4GB of RAM so it should be more than sufficient to run Vista).

That would be another bad excuse based on wrong assumption from you today.

Let's not forget number 9.

9. Drop YUM in favor of the much faster SMART package management system.

JRM7

Dude,

when was the last time you used YUM?

in FC5 yum is much faster than smart - maybe its cause smart refreshes its cache every time but seriously yum is much faster at least for me there is no comparison.

Sorry, that is not correct. Yum refreshes the cache everytime, not smart. Check this link http://mandrivausers.org/index.php?showtopic=32414&st=0
And you will see that smart needs ONE minute for a task for which yum needs FIVE minutes.

Although smart is definitely faster, I still use yum. I feel a bit more comfy with it.

I didn't mean web cache i meant local cache and it takes 20 odd seconds to finish that for me with smart even when removing files or doing anything.

I am referring to:
Loading cache...
Updating cache... ######################################## [100%]



Yum runs atleast 10x faster for me :/

Yum takes a long time first time but afterwords it only downloads incremental headers and is much much faster here.

>> Yum runs atleast 10x faster for me
lucky
yum is not working for me at all
Also 2 FC5 gui installation managers doesn't work
because they are waiting yum (AFAIK) for meaningful response and after some waiting (several minutes) just showing me error message "unable to get software list" or smth like that. So i can't add/remove software through the standard tools. Wtf!
I don't have internet connection in linux.
I connecting to internet via vpn. I have tried to install pptp / pptp-client step-by-step but failed to get it to work. Connection is succesfully establishing but dissaperaring after 1 sec.
A lot of people using vpn, why disto maintiners doesn't include it by default?

In FC6 Yum gets a C backend for metadata parsing, so you should experience significant improvement in yum's speed. The C-based backed is called yum-metadata-parser

Hmm, I wasn't aware of the yum-metadata-parser. If it speeds up the YUM processing considerably, I will reconsider YUM. But for now, I am sticking with SMART!

Thanks for telling me about that!

JRM7

I too will continue using SMART for my Fedora linux boxes. I think it is relatively speedy at what it does, though I do still prefer apt systems.

I just checked for comments but honestly for me, smart has managed to do the same process in less than half the time that YUM took.

Dude, the last time was today. I run Fedora on my i386 desktop and laptop. The desktop is using the default YUM configuration plus repos and the laptop is using smart. And to update the exact same packages takes much longer with YUM (in MY experience) than SMART.

JRM7

I use Fedora 5 and it is very good

I have tried almost all new linux releases and FC5 is the most secure one after a default install with:execshield,propolice,fortify-source and a enforcing targeted SELinux policy (easy to make it enforcing strict too).And above all remarkably still usable.

Remember that RHEL has a totally different audience than Fedora. You will never see a RHEL release that will be as bleeding edge as Fedora - for a good reason.

I like how often total morons tries to start pointless flamewars just to fuel their fragile egos.

It is an interesting phenomenon on the web. My guess is the average troll is a very angry person out of touch with their emotions. Usually in men seeing a lot of anger is a sign of deep seated hurt. They find it easy to go after people on the web since you have an indirect, safe way to do it - i.e., they are really whimpy in real life and face to face confrontation would be too much for them.