Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sun 9th Jul 2006 22:09 UTC
Mozilla & Gecko clones OneStat.com reported that Mozilla Firefox's browsers have a total global usage share of 12.93 percent. The total usage share of Mozilla Firefox increased 1.14 percent since May 2006. The total global usage share of Internet Explorer is 83.05 percent which is 2.12 percent less than at the of May. The same provider also reported recently that the 800x600 resolution is still used by 12% of the internet population.
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one more statistic
by Eugenia on Sun 9th Jul 2006 22:16 UTC
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BTW, there is one more report about Firefox's popularity, but it's not as accurate, as its sample is across 1000 sites while OneStat uses 50,000 sites to draw its results: http://www.ittopics.com/default.aspx?page=ed51cde3-d979-4daf-afae-f...

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Just one problem.
by deathshadow on Sun 9th Jul 2006 22:17 UTC
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I'd probably have an opinion if the links didn't load up as a blank screen in Opera and Firefox, and report 404 in IE.

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RE: Just one problem.
by Eugenia on Sun 9th Jul 2006 22:27 UTC in reply to "Just one problem."
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They work fine in my Firefox.

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v In other news...
by sappyvcv on Sun 9th Jul 2006 22:19 UTC
Check out the Firefox usage in Australia
by zetsurin on Sun 9th Jul 2006 22:25 UTC
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2006-06-13

Those stats make me proud to be Australian ;)

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nevermind, my bad.
by deathshadow on Sun 9th Jul 2006 22:30 UTC
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Definate my bad... Realized it when I tried to ping the site; Onestat is on my hosts file redirected it to 127.0.0.1 to block it... because the site is laden with IE spyware. Even though I dont' use IE for normal browsing, I don't trust them - and neither do most of your blocking lists.

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RE: nevermind, my bad.
by Eugenia on Sun 9th Jul 2006 22:32 UTC in reply to "nevermind, my bad."
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2005-06-28

Their pages are hardly spyware. Might have a script to check out your browser/res (as they are in the statistics business), but this is hardly spyware.

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RE[2]: nevermind, my bad.
by elsewhere on Sun 9th Jul 2006 23:39 UTC in reply to "RE: nevermind, my bad."
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2005-07-13

Their pages are hardly spyware. Might have a script to check out your browser/res (as they are in the statistics business), but this is hardly spyware.

No, it's not spyware per se but *.onestat.com/* is often blocked by generic ad-blocking filters or hosts lists because it is a tracking site.

Because of that the results need to be taken with a grain of salt; with opera and ff users frequently blocking tracking sites, and older versions of opera defaulting to IE user agent strings, the data is somewhat tainted.

Still, browser tracking is murky at best so this is probably as close to an approximation as we can get.

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RE[3]: nevermind, my bad.
by gustl on Mon 10th Jul 2006 10:17 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: nevermind, my bad."
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Well, the statistics do not look so bad, as the Newspaper "Standard" (www.derstandard.at) which is german language has 59.2% for IE and 28.6% for Mozilla Firefox for June.

That goes roughly inline with the results for germany.

It is however nice to see, that there is no longer a 90%+ monopoly in the market. That drives the standardisation of the internet on, and makes the usage of proprietary extensions less attractive.

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Hah,
by deathshadow on Sun 9th Jul 2006 22:36 UTC
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It's in the opera url filter I run as well...

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2005-11-13

Is IE7 comes out and actually plugs the security holes. The reason why I've gone through the trouble of getting friends and family off of IE is because of security. But if they can fix it, then I can just leave 'em all on IE next time.

I understand the idealism of the whole thing, but I'm tired of getting phone calls because some embedded activex video or other weird plugin won't work on whatever YouPube wanna-be site they happen to be browsing at the time.

Edited 2006-07-09 22:50

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diegocg Member since:
2005-07-08

Well, if IE7 is good an you convert back all your family to IE again, there's a possibility that Microsoft will lock you *again* in the future. I place all my bets in Firefox and not in propietary software because Firefox's openess means everybody can implement Firefox's APIs and look at firefox code so nobody can lock you in.

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fyysik Member since:
2006-02-19

To make any IE secure, be it 7 or 127 you need 3 things - together or at least one of them.

1)Stop using same components for IE and Explorer (90% if no more in common, so if you open any Explorer window it is actually IE).
2) Drop out VBS from IE.
3) Drop out VB(S) as Windows system sccpting language.

Until those aren't fulfilled, you cannot expect IE to be secure, let them add zillion patches or security checks, rules, firewalls, antiviruses, antispywares, stacks-overflow checkers and whatelse

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Whoa @ Germany stats
by Simon Gray on Sun 9th Jul 2006 22:55 UTC
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2006-06-04

Respect for the neighbours, those are impressive statistics!

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Look at the Germany figure
by Umbra on Mon 10th Jul 2006 01:12 UTC
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2006-03-06

Firefox in the 80 million populated Germany: 39.02% !!!!

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RE: Look at the Germany figure
by ma_d on Mon 10th Jul 2006 02:01 UTC in reply to "Look at the Germany figure"
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2005-06-29

Yea that's pretty amazing... I wonder what their OS break-down looks like...

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Linux at 1% and holding!
by NotParker on Mon 10th Jul 2006 02:30 UTC
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2006-06-01

I notice the W3Counter site has Linux at 1% and holding!

I also see that as many people are using IE7 as are using Linux.

While the loss of IE market share to Firefox must sadden Microsoft, the fact that almost all Firefox users are Windows users must make them happy.

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RE: Linux at 1% and holding!
by diskinetic on Mon 10th Jul 2006 04:15 UTC in reply to "Linux at 1% and holding!"
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2005-12-09

"While the loss of IE market share to Firefox must sadden Microsoft, the fact that almost all Firefox users are Windows users must make them happy."

true. And...

The fact that some of their users see Microsoft products as a qualified choice among many choices anywhere probably makes them sad as well. You must understand that Microsoft (as would any company) would LOVE people to default to their products without hesitation or thought.

If say, 6% of their browser users have decided anything at all, that's almost 6% too much in their book. That means that 6% of what was an automatic knee-jerk revenue stream is thinking about other options in the face of pre-installed Microsoft products. Who knows? It might be 10% soon enough, and perhaps half of that 10% will "shop around" for office suites or spreadsheets or media players or IM clients or some-other.

What if that 5% turns into 10% as well? What if half of that 10% is increasingly happy choosing software for its virtues rather than its ubiquity? Maybe, just maybe, they'll even think of (gasp) trying some other OS if they have an old computer lying about that they don't want to pay a lot to re-animate.
It's all highly speculative, of course. But Microsoft would be much happier if FireFox didn't exist. Heck, my life would be that much easier if other men didn't exist to entice women away from my seemingly inferior product line of cool-dudeness. I feel Microsoft's pain: when you're only so good, competition stinks.

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RE[2]: Linux at 1% and holding!
by Umbra on Mon 10th Jul 2006 06:56 UTC in reply to "RE: Linux at 1% and holding!"
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2006-03-06

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If Linux was preinstalled on 50% of all new computers sold in the main stream brick & mortar computer & electronic shops, users would not notice, or pay any special attention to this being Linux. They would just go home and use it, as usually. As a matter of fact, even 80% would not notice or pay special attention to the operating system sitting on the computer they just bought.

Few would actually miss "the system they had before" (what was it anyway we had before, John ? Wasn't it something like Windfall.. no.... XPondos, ..... no.... now I have it ... it was Windaz eXP. Our new computer has just got a new layout, hasn't it John?)
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RE: Linux at 1% and holding!
by jaylaa on Mon 10th Jul 2006 09:20 UTC in reply to "Linux at 1% and holding!"
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2006-01-17

That same site:

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

has Linux at 4%. I don't know what's up with the conflicting data, but in my few years of being aware of Linux I've never heard a number less than 3%. That 1% you quote is not true.

Edited 2006-07-10 09:20

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RE[2]: Linux at 1% and holding!
by MollyC on Mon 10th Jul 2006 17:22 UTC in reply to "RE: Linux at 1% and holding!"
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2006-07-04

"I don't know what's up with the conflicting data, but in my few years of being aware of Linux I've never heard a number less than 3%. That 1% you quote is not true."


http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=2
OS share for June 2006:
Windows: ~95%
Mac: 3.92%
Linux: 0.38%

I've been following that site for the past year, and Linux always hovers around 0.4%; no sign of increase.

Here are the stats for each of the past 12 months:
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=5
Linux is stuck in the "other" category that bounces between 1.5% and 1.7%.

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Norway
by elzurawka on Mon 10th Jul 2006 13:55 UTC
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I would be curious to see what the usage is in the home country of Opera? I wonder if people there know more about it, and if they would use it more since its home made?

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Another sample from marketshare.hitslink.com
by MollyC on Mon 10th Jul 2006 17:34 UTC
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2006-07-04

Here's another sampling, which pretty much agrees with the others, with IE at 84% and falling, and Firfox at about 11% and rising.
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=0

That site also agrees that IE7 already has more users than does Linux, for what its worth.
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=6
shows IE7 at 1.09%.
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=2
shows Linux at 0.38% (as per my above post).

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W3Cschools is an aberration
by NotParker on Mon 10th Jul 2006 18:56 UTC
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2006-06-01

W3Cschools is an aberration, as Linux usage jumped to 4.4% from 3.4% in one month after growing infintesimally per month for years. Linux has always been overrepresented on that site.

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Firefox is good for Microsoft
by NotParker on Mon 10th Jul 2006 19:02 UTC
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2006-06-01

Once upon a time, the best reason to switch from Windows to Linux was browser security. Once Firefox became popular, Firefox aided Microsoft by acting sort of like a "safety valve".

Why switch (with all the hassle to Linux) when you could have all the benefits of Windows without the security problem of IE.

Now that IE7 is almost, that percieved security problem will slowly go away.

Linux has been holding steady at 1% for the whole decade.

Its too bad Google quit including OS percentage in the Zeitgeist, but historically Linux was at 1% and holding.

2004 - 1% http://www.google.ca/press/zeitgeist/zeitgeist-apr04.html

2003 = 1% http://www.google.ca/press/zeitgeist/zeitgeist-apr03.html

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W3Counter and w3schools not same site
by NotParker on Mon 10th Jul 2006 19:06 UTC
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W3Counter and W3schools are not the same site by the way.

Even when Google had Linux at 1%, W3schools had them at 2.4%. I'll go with Google. More users.

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