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They work fine in my Firefox.

Their pages are hardly spyware. Might have a script to check out your browser/res (as they are in the statistics business), but this is hardly spyware.

Their pages are hardly spyware. Might have a script to check out your browser/res (as they are in the statistics business), but this is hardly spyware.

No, it's not spyware per se but *.onestat.com/* is often blocked by generic ad-blocking filters or hosts lists because it is a tracking site.

Because of that the results need to be taken with a grain of salt; with opera and ff users frequently blocking tracking sites, and older versions of opera defaulting to IE user agent strings, the data is somewhat tainted.

Still, browser tracking is murky at best so this is probably as close to an approximation as we can get.

Well, the statistics do not look so bad, as the Newspaper "Standard" (www.derstandard.at) which is german language has 59.2% for IE and 28.6% for Mozilla Firefox for June.

That goes roughly inline with the results for germany.

It is however nice to see, that there is no longer a 90%+ monopoly in the market. That drives the standardisation of the internet on, and makes the usage of proprietary extensions less attractive.

Well, if IE7 is good an you convert back all your family to IE again, there's a possibility that Microsoft will lock you *again* in the future. I place all my bets in Firefox and not in propietary software because Firefox's openess means everybody can implement Firefox's APIs and look at firefox code so nobody can lock you in.

To make any IE secure, be it 7 or 127 you need 3 things - together or at least one of them.

1)Stop using same components for IE and Explorer (90% if no more in common, so if you open any Explorer window it is actually IE).
2) Drop out VBS from IE.
3) Drop out VB(S) as Windows system sccpting language.

Until those aren't fulfilled, you cannot expect IE to be secure, let them add zillion patches or security checks, rules, firewalls, antiviruses, antispywares, stacks-overflow checkers and whatelse

Yea that's pretty amazing... I wonder what their OS break-down looks like...

"While the loss of IE market share to Firefox must sadden Microsoft, the fact that almost all Firefox users are Windows users must make them happy."

true. And...

The fact that some of their users see Microsoft products as a qualified choice among many choices anywhere probably makes them sad as well. You must understand that Microsoft (as would any company) would LOVE people to default to their products without hesitation or thought.

If say, 6% of their browser users have decided anything at all, that's almost 6% too much in their book. That means that 6% of what was an automatic knee-jerk revenue stream is thinking about other options in the face of pre-installed Microsoft products. Who knows? It might be 10% soon enough, and perhaps half of that 10% will "shop around" for office suites or spreadsheets or media players or IM clients or some-other.

What if that 5% turns into 10% as well? What if half of that 10% is increasingly happy choosing software for its virtues rather than its ubiquity? Maybe, just maybe, they'll even think of (gasp) trying some other OS if they have an old computer lying about that they don't want to pay a lot to re-animate.
It's all highly speculative, of course. But Microsoft would be much happier if FireFox didn't exist. Heck, my life would be that much easier if other men didn't exist to entice women away from my seemingly inferior product line of cool-dudeness. I feel Microsoft's pain: when you're only so good, competition stinks.

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If Linux was preinstalled on 50% of all new computers sold in the main stream brick & mortar computer & electronic shops, users would not notice, or pay any special attention to this being Linux. They would just go home and use it, as usually. As a matter of fact, even 80% would not notice or pay special attention to the operating system sitting on the computer they just bought.

Few would actually miss "the system they had before" (what was it anyway we had before, John ? Wasn't it something like Windfall.. no.... XPondos, ..... no.... now I have it ... it was Windaz eXP. Our new computer has just got a new layout, hasn't it John?)
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That same site:

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

has Linux at 4%. I don't know what's up with the conflicting data, but in my few years of being aware of Linux I've never heard a number less than 3%. That 1% you quote is not true.

Edited 2006-07-10 09:20

"I don't know what's up with the conflicting data, but in my few years of being aware of Linux I've never heard a number less than 3%. That 1% you quote is not true."


http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=2
OS share for June 2006:
Windows: ~95%
Mac: 3.92%
Linux: 0.38%

I've been following that site for the past year, and Linux always hovers around 0.4%; no sign of increase.

Here are the stats for each of the past 12 months:
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=5
Linux is stuck in the "other" category that bounces between 1.5% and 1.7%.