Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 19th Jul 2006 17:56 UTC, submitted by mikemuch
Internet & Networking "Right at this moment, big changes have or are about to occur in three well-known browsers: Internet Explorer is finally being updated, with version 7 in its third beta and almost ready to roll out the door; Firefox is also ripening an upgrade beta for its Version 2.0 - it's in beta 1; and finally Opera, which has a devoted but smaller following, has recently come out with Version 9.0. So, three new browsers in the same year, after no action for a half decade. How do they stack up?"
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Firefox: No favourites button
by kcy29581 on Wed 19th Jul 2006 18:07 UTC
kcy29581
Member since:
2006-05-11

Umm... Damn right you are Mr. Reviewer. Firefox has a BOOKMARKS button which you can add to the browser. It's there by default as well; no extensions required.

Attention to detail... none!

Reply Score: 5

RE: Firefox: No favourites button
by Simon Gray on Wed 19th Jul 2006 18:25 UTC in reply to "Firefox: No favourites button"
Simon Gray Member since:
2006-06-04

What I do is I usually just drag and drop the favicon into some folder in my Bookmarks pull-down menu. That's one click and it's not a feature that you somehow need to turn on.

If you drag and drop the favicon to the home icon it will also use that page as your home page.

Reply Score: 2

RE: Firefox: No favourites button
by DrillSgt on Wed 19th Jul 2006 18:26 UTC in reply to "Firefox: No favourites button"
DrillSgt Member since:
2005-12-02

"Umm... Damn right you are Mr. Reviewer. Firefox has a BOOKMARKS button which you can add to the browser. It's there by default as well; no extensions required.

Attention to detail... none!"


Funny, it is not in my Firefox unless I download the extension. There is a bookmarks menu, no bookmarks button.

Reply Score: 1

RE[2]: Firefox: No favourites button
by helf on Wed 19th Jul 2006 18:50 UTC in reply to "RE: Firefox: No favourites button"
helf Member since:
2005-07-06

lets see.... right click up on the grey toolbar area. click on customize... drop 'bookmarks' button to the tool bar... hey, i have a bookmarks button! ;)

Reply Score: 3

DrillSgt Member since:
2005-12-02

"lets see.... right click up on the grey toolbar area. click on customize... drop 'bookmarks' button to the tool bar... hey, i have a bookmarks button! ;) "

Thanks. Never knew that was there ;)

Reply Score: 1

d0nk3y Member since:
2005-12-15

You can also just press Ctrl+B and toggle the bookmarks sidebar open / close.

Keyboard shortcuts rock!

Reply Score: 1

BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

uh, my Firefox install did not have a bookmark button by default either, it's easy to turn on, but it is not on by default

Reply Score: 2

RE: Firefox: No favourites button
by Joe User on Thu 20th Jul 2006 01:11 UTC in reply to "Firefox: No favourites button"
Joe User Member since:
2005-06-29

Firefox has a BOOKMARKS button which you can add to the browser. It's there by default as well; no extensions required.

I don't have any Bookmark button on my default Firefox on Linux here.

Reply Score: 1

Remembering tabs
by Simon Gray on Wed 19th Jul 2006 18:28 UTC
Simon Gray
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2006-06-04

Solution: Google Browser Sync

This even remembers what tabs were open between in different computers ;)

Reply Score: 1

happy Opera user:)
by Punktyras on Wed 19th Jul 2006 18:51 UTC
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Member since:
2006-01-07

One feature unique to IE7 is its tile view of your tabs<...>

No way, Opera has it too.

Reply Score: 2

Features...
by jcinacio on Wed 19th Jul 2006 18:51 UTC
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Member since:
2006-03-12

Though some things are essential (like security, pop-up blocking, etc) others are not.

Yes, i might use lot this or that feature but many people don't and for some it's just confusing and/or bloat.

Having said this, i think the article doesn't try to "benchmark" the browsers but instead do a good clean comparison.

Thumbs up!

Reply Score: 2

Aboot IE7
by ronaldst on Wed 19th Jul 2006 18:52 UTC
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2005-06-29

I hate the new places for Refresh and Stop buttons. It's as convenient as the find dialog/bar in FF.

Reply Score: 1

spellchecker
by Abaddon on Wed 19th Jul 2006 19:42 UTC
Abaddon
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2006-06-23

1) Opera has spellchecker.
2) "One-Click Button to add Favorites", use ctrl + d, luke.

Reply Score: 3

Can remember open tabs for next session
by borjab on Wed 19th Jul 2006 20:42 UTC
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Member since:
2006-02-01

It seems to me that Firefox 2 has this http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1990854,00.asp">miss... feature.

At least, if I read the http://www.mozilla.org/projects/bonecho/releases/2.0b1.html">re... we see:

Ability to re-open accidentally closed tabs
Automatic restoration of your browsing session if there is a crash.
By the way. http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=191605&cid=15744000">Someon... May be with an extension.

Edited 2006-07-19 20:42

Reply Score: 1

jayson.knight Member since:
2005-07-06

Yes, just google SessionSaver or Tab Mix Plus. They both do this.

Reply Score: 1

StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

Will those do full Opera-style crash recovery? Namely, recover stuff like the text you had entered into forms when it restarts after crashing?

Reply Score: 1

Peeve for new tab? CTRL-T
by KenJackson on Wed 19th Jul 2006 20:54 UTC
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Member since:
2005-07-18

One peeve: Why isn't there still a one-click button (by default) for adding a new tab? You can use the middle mouse button ..., but sometimes you want a new empty tab, which in Firefox requires going through menus, or double clicking on the empty space to the right of the last tab ...

Did they take away CTRL-T? That's one of my most-used key sequences when using Firefox. I wouldn't use those mouse thingies in any case.

Reply Score: 1

Compliance
by KenJackson on Wed 19th Jul 2006 21:08 UTC
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Member since:
2005-07-18

We also ran the browsers through the Acid2 Browser Test, from the Web Standard Project. It's an attempt to test how well a browser complies with web standards.

Yes! That's what I wanted to see. And Opera wins. I'm disappointed the other two didn't pass, especially Firefox.

Actually, I would also have liked to read more about CSS implementation improvements and bug fixes.

Reply Score: 2

Fair article
by Gysbert on Wed 19th Jul 2006 21:50 UTC
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Member since:
2006-04-20

I think the article gave us a fair and even-handed comparison of the three rival browsers. What I found slightly annoying: the rather simple list of what was new in their latest incarnations, 'according to the makers' (or some such phrase). This gave me the idea ExtremeTech looked in from the outside, so to speak. A regular user knows exactly how a new version differs from an earlier one. That's why I myself, for instance, have still not 'upgraded' to Opera 9, because I don't have a use for widgets or a torrent client. Opera 8.54 is perfection.

But, all in all: a nice, informative review.

Reply Score: 1

RE: Fair article
by ayembee on Thu 20th Jul 2006 06:45 UTC in reply to "Fair article"
ayembee Member since:
2005-09-15

there's always the new built-in content blocker and a number of stability/rendering fixes... ;)

Reply Score: 1

RE[2]: Fair article
by Gysbert on Thu 20th Jul 2006 09:58 UTC in reply to "RE: Fair article"
Gysbert Member since:
2006-04-20

The 'stability/rendering fixes' you mention might be useful. And I agree one never must say of any piece of software that it is 'perfection'... BUT - ever since I started using Opera 8.54, I haven't had any serious problems.

Reply Score: 2

Already Done..
by Dolphin on Wed 19th Jul 2006 22:12 UTC
Dolphin
Member since:
2006-05-01

This was already on OSNews before from another source ;) (quite different results though...)

http://neosmart.net/blog/archives/157

Reply Score: 0

Wow
by Soulbender on Thu 20th Jul 2006 03:09 UTC
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2005-08-18

"But all the themes we found merely changed the interface buttons and perhaps added an image to the top menu area; they don't change the window borders the way you can with WindowBlinds."

Nooooo, really? Did anyone seriously expect Firefox to skin the entire OS?

"Unlike the other two browsers in this roundup, IE7 has an RSS button that's always there below the address bar."

Oh, just like how Firefox also has an orange button for sites with RSS feeds? It's even right there in the addressbar.

Reply Score: 1

Little Funny
by abhaysahai on Thu 20th Jul 2006 05:48 UTC
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Member since:
2005-10-20

Memory Usage in MB (no pages loaded)
Firefox 2 Beta 1: 42
Internet Explorer 7 Beta 3: 24
Opera 9.0: 53
IE 6.0: 17
Firefox 1.5.0.4: 17.8


We used the same group of tabbed pages on all of the browsers—ExtremeTech home, Yahoo, PCMag.com, YouTube, BBC World, and Flickr (with the same picture showing). With this tab load the results were as follows:

Memory Usage in MB Loading Six Tabs
Firefox 2 Beta 1: 73
Internet Explorer 7 Beta 3: 70
Opera 9.0: 52
IE 6.0: 155
Firefox 1.5.0.4: 56

So This proves that Opera actually uses less memory, when it has 6 tabs loaded, then Opera without any page open. Wow. Does this translate into -- if I open 100 tabs in opera, the memory usage would be 10 MB and if I open 500 tabs then Opera will not use memory at all :).

Pun Intended.
Otherwise a nice article.

Reply Score: 2

RE: Little Funny
by deathshadow on Thu 20th Jul 2006 07:38 UTC in reply to "Little Funny "
deathshadow Member since:
2005-07-12

>> So This proves that Opera actually uses less memory, when it has 6 tabs loaded

I think they screwed up on that one - on XP Opera's normal footprint at LOAD with no tabs open is 41,820kb... Once you've opened some tabs though, regardless of how many you have open or closed it hangs around 52k, and doesn't really climb past that until to total size of the pages you are viewing exceeds 8 megs.

What I think happened there is they closed opera with tabs open, started opera, it opened the tabs they had open when they closed it... then they closed all of them for their reading, giving a false number higher than a true 'baseline'

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RE[2]: Little Funny
by deathshadow on Thu 20th Jul 2006 07:39 UTC in reply to "RE: Little Funny "
deathshadow Member since:
2005-07-12

oops. that should read 52megs... my bad.

Reply Score: 1

Showcase
by Budd on Thu 20th Jul 2006 08:35 UTC
Budd
Member since:
2005-07-08

Isn't Showcase extension for FF what Quicktabs is for IE7?

Reply Score: 1

Anti-Phishing
by Galley on Thu 20th Jul 2006 12:14 UTC
Galley
Member since:
2005-10-27

Opera's anti-phishing technology isn't as sophisticated as the others, but it has been there since version 8.0.

Reply Score: 1

Firefox 2.0 = theft
by NotParker on Fri 21st Jul 2006 04:46 UTC
NotParker
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2006-06-01

Pretty much every new feature in Firefox 2.0 is stolen from Opera or Maxthon.

Reply Score: 1