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Didn't had a problem getting XGL and kompiz to work on my Thinkpad T60 with ATI X1300.

Good for you; but I cannot afford Thinkpad for the sake of XGL alone.

I don't really understand most of your problems.

While SLED 10 doesn't ship proprietary nVidia and ATI drivers, because they don't want to violate the GPL, they automatically set up a repository from ATI and nVidia which provide pre-compiled packages for SLE 10. These packages are set up automatically when you enable Xgl, so I wonder why you're fiddling with re-installing rpms and building kernel modules.

Of course, if you want to build kernel modules all you have to do is install the kernel-source and gcc packages, which are available from the installation media.

Also, SLED is mostly compatible with openSUSE Linux 10.1 (only few exceptions, like the kernel from 10.1 which is still not backported to SLED).

"These packages are set up automatically when you enable Xgl,"

First it will not install the nvidia proprietary packages automatically (or manually) as you claimed; Second if you just did what you said it will leave you will leave you with blank dark black screen. Please try it before saying that.

And regarding the kernel source, it must be installed by default because some applications need them to install- eg bestcrypt by jetico and vmware- and I don't want to return to the DVD media; besides remember that there is no option to choose all packages during the installation -like in Redhat Enterprise Linux- and which is really a huge bother when you want to make sure you don't want to return back to the installation media or carry it with you or in the enterprise if you don't wanna leave a DVD with each customer who misses some packages.

First it will not install the nvidia proprietary packages automatically (or manually) as you claimed; Second if you just did what you said it will leave you will leave you with blank dark black screen. Please try it before saying that.

You'll have to read what I said again.

From the "Desktop Effects" application in your control center you can click a few buttons to install the drivers. And you won't have to manually do anything else like you claimed you had to. So maybe you should actually try it.

And regarding the kernel source, it must be installed by default because some applications need them to install- eg bestcrypt by jetico and vmware- and I don't want to return to the DVD media;

That's great. I'll write Novell a leter to let them know kernel-source should be installed by default because hraq doesn't want to return to the DVD media.

"And you won't have to manually do anything else"

Mr Genius, I do have to do alot with xorg.conf file even after I install the drivers, because the screen resolution I use is 1920x1200@60 Hz strictly on Viewsonic VP 231wb, which shows me that you never installed linux in any professional way on many hardware.

"That's great. I'll write Novell a leter to let them know kernel-source should be installed by default"

I appreciate your help, but doubt you will do it; the idea is that SLED is not a good enterprise alternative, because they don't care much about the enterprise more than they care about casual users like you, who will never generate for then probably a dime.

Could not get it to install on my amd64 X2 windsor w/n590 chipset

well, I hope this helps you a little bit. some nvidia 590 chipsets require features that will be in 2.6.18.

I have to boot my fedora 2.6.17 with noapic, irqpool, noacpi and one other kernel param I can't remember now. rc2 of 2.6.18 works out of the box, except that I'm waiting for stable.

Oh, there are alot of problems. let me tell you about one program that installed from source on all machines with any linux distro except SLED, this application is called yahoo messenger. Tons of missing dependancy packages; and to make it worse they didn't include a button to choose all packages from their DVD during the installation which leave you confused to search for them online or to search for them on the installation DVD. Another funny problem, if an enterprise customer likes konqueror and wants to run it would ask him for root password!!! Ask the system administrators for that.

let me tell you about one program that installed from source on all machines with any linux distro except SLED, this application is called yahoo messenger.

Huh? The source for Yahoo messenger is publicly available?

Sounds like your complaining about "YaST issues" that were seen in the first final release of 10.1, which were then fixed with updates, and the updates have been applied within SLED 10.

If this isn't the case then what is your problem? What DE are you running?

But yeah, bet it's the obvious that has been talked about since day one of the 10.1 release.

The ximian monkeys have f--ked up the package management in Suse 10.1 and SLED 10. This is so much of a pain in the ass that I am only keeping a Suse partition in order to support my customers running it.

On my laptop, I have Suse 10 with the latest KDE and it works superbly. Novell's open suse's build service is outstanding. I wish the Ximian monkeys would stop messing around with shit they don't understand. Stick to Mono and evolution and leave the core distro and package management to the Suse hackers who had a good thing going before Novell's management messed it up.

I find both openSUSE 10.1 and SLED 10 horrible resource hogs, and with a Pentium D 920 and 4 GB of DDR2 RAM, my system shouldn't be a slouch.